Kwadwo Asamoah (29 Viewers)

[Hust]

And who is the target man? Matri?

All our ST reek of mediocrity regardless. I'd be willing to give matri a run of 4 or 5 games consistently in the 433 and keep my mouth shut to give him a chance.

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Isla has always for Chile, While Giovinco did when we trashed Torino with 3-0. IRRC he had a goal and a assist.

oops

 

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[JuveJay]

When was the last time Asamoah played for a major team as a LWB?

Hardly ever, yet here we are.

Point?

My point was pretty obvious. So essentially you're agreeing with the notion of playing players out of position to suit a system. That sounds contradictory.

 

[Hust]

Maybe also 1 shot against Parma. Two shots against Sampdoria. But hey they were enough to drop points.

Yep. Shows how weak our offense is for one, and our inability to break down the defense on our wings with we don't use natural wingers anyways, so go figure.

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My point was pretty obvious. So essentially you're agreeing with the notion of playing players out of position to suit a system. That sounds contradictory.

1 position until Pepe is fit.


versus


2 positions: LWB Asamoah and Caceres at LCB

Simple math here.

 

[MikeM]

Maybe also 1 shot against Parma. Two shots against Sampdoria. But hey they were enough to drop points.

So by moving to 4-3-3 we will give up 0 shots a game or Buffon will not make any mistakes, or De Ceglie will learn how to defend?

 

[TrezJuve]

My point was pretty obvious. So essentially you're agreeing with the notion of playing players out of position to suit a system. That sounds contradictory.

Asamoah.

 

[MikeM]

Yep. Shows how weak our offense is for one, and our inability to break down the defense on our wings with we don't use natural wingers anyways, so go figure.

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1 position until Pepe is fit.


versus


2 positions: LWB Asamoah and Caceres at LCB

Simple math here.

Ah, the irony of simple math in relation to this argument.

 

[Hust]

So by moving to 4-3-3 we will give up 0 shots a game or Buffon will not make any mistakes, or De Ceglie will learn how to defend?

1. Without Chiellini in the back 3 we have lost solidity. We need 4 until he gets back...and when he does, even better for the 433 with all CB's healthy and Licht doing a better job as a RB than RWB.

2. Peluso instead of DC

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Ah, the irony of simple math in relation to this argument.

We force players to play in unnatural roles, yet Isla, as an attacking player with pace and more technical abilities than Pepe, can't play as a RW?

Come on.

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Asamoah.

Even Caceres now.


Marrone as CB?

oops.

 

[MikeM]

I'm just wondering when this "4-3-3 with Pepe" has become the bench mark for successful, winning football.

If I were to just use simple math to decide which formation has been more successful...

 

[Klovn]

So by moving to 4-3-3 we will give up 0 shots a game or Buffon will not make any mistakes, or De Ceglie will learn how to defend?

With 433 far more ballpossesion. Our GK and defence will rarely get dispusited. Watch Barca, they have an awful awful defence. But opponements rarely has the ball.

 

[Maddy]

an advide to most in this thread. stop using math and statistics. they dont do ur argument any good.

peace

 

[JuveJay]

Isla has always for Chile, While Giovinco did when we trashed Torino with 3-0. IRRC he had a goal and a assist.

Isla hasn't always for Chile. Against Argentina he played right back, can't be bothered to search further back. In Bielsa's 3-3-1-3 he played on the right of the midfield trio.

So for Giovinco it is once?

 

[MikeM]

With 433 far more ballpossesion. Our GK and defence will rarely get dispusited. Watch Barca, they have an awful awful defence. But opponements rarely has the ball.

Ah, the 4-3-3. That's how they do it.

 

[Klovn]

Isla hasn't always for Chile. Against Argentina he played right back, can't be bothered to search further back. In Bielsa's 3-3-1-3 he played on the right of the midfield trio.

So for Giovinco it is once?

Nah, he definitely most as RW under Bielsa.

 

[Hust]

an advide to most in this thread. stop using math and statistics. they dont do ur argument any good.

peace

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[JuveJay]

Asamoah.

Well yes, exactly. Asamoah out of position to suit a formation is a problem. But this idea isn't a problem as long as the formation desired by an individual is played instead.

 

[Hust]

Mirko/Gio-Matri-Isla/Gio


The top 3 would be switching mid play anyways and constantly overlapping when they cut in. Why is it so hard to get this?

 

[TrezJuve]

I'm just wondering when this "4-3-3 with Pepe" has become the bench mark for successful, winning football.

If I were to just use simple math to decide which formation has been more successful...

I see, still wondering aloud?

Formations have an impact on how we use spaces, make a difference in how the players are supposed to move and therefore, it changes the overall play. Not saying one formation is better than the other, but against minnows we should have more options going forward, because otherwise our play is too congested.

 

[MikeM]

Mirko/Gio-Matri-Isla/Gio


The top 3 would be switching mid play anyways and constantly overlapping when they cut in. Why is it so hard to get this?

LOL. That's our problem, not enough "switching mid play".

 

[Klovn]

Ah, the 4-3-3. That's how they do it.

I don't bother writing again what's the reason behind.

You can just look into the Conte thread or where ever i wrote yesterday night.

 

[Hust]

I see, still wondering aloud?

Formations have an impact on how we use spaces, make a difference in how the players are supposed to move and therefore, it changes the overall play. Not saying one formation is better than the other, but against minnows we should have more options going forward, because otherwise our play is too congested.