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OMG... we´re back to this "Thank god we sold Vidal, get rid LLorente and loan for 7M two years to Coman"
Well, find a wing with his potential for 7m? good luck
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This deal is awesome for Bayern. They can test his potential for two years and if they are convinced and coman do great, they are gonna pay pennies.
So it's easy to see, if bayern do an amazing deal it means it sucks for us.
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There's not 8, just 5m this year and 2m next summer... it's just stupid defend this deal cuz it doesn't make any sense, just
Please stop bringing this thread... it just makes me sick
Well, find a wing with his potential for 7m? good luck
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This deal is awesome for Bayern. They can test his potential for two years and if they are convinced and coman do great, they are gonna pay pennies.
So it's easy to see, if bayern do an amazing deal it means it sucks for us.
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There's not 8, just 5m this year and 2m next summer... it's just stupid defend this deal cuz it doesn't make any sense, just
Please stop bringing this thread... it just makes me sick
OMG... we´re back to this "Thank god we sold Vidal, get rid LLorente and loan for 7M two years to Coman"
Well, find a wing with his potential for 7m? good luck
- - - Updated - - -
This deal is awesome for Bayern. They can test his potential for two years and if they are convinced and coman do great, they are gonna pay pennies.
So it's easy to see, if bayern do an amazing deal it means it sucks for us.
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There's not 8, just 5m this year and 2m next summer... it's just stupid defend this deal cuz it doesn't make any sense, just
Please stop bringing this thread... it just makes me sick
Well, find a wing with his potential for 7m? good luck
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This deal is awesome for Bayern. They can test his potential for two years and if they are convinced and coman do great, they are gonna pay pennies.
So it's easy to see, if bayern do an amazing deal it means it sucks for us.
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There's not 8, just 5m this year and 2m next summer... it's just stupid defend this deal cuz it doesn't make any sense, just
Please stop bringing this thread... it just makes me sick
He wasn't a player like vidal that was world class once and than had one alright year, if he turns WC again at bayern it will bother me. He was also a player that was absolutely vital for us, losing him hurt us a lot.
Coman wasn't even a player like verrati or varane or pogba who as youngsters were almost sure to be huge.
The best i would think coman falls into the category of players is zaza (if we sold him), or boyake (whatever his name was) gabi (guy we sold to napoli?) And if we should have kept coman worrying about him being potentially a huge talent then we should have kept all three by the same principle. Also even if he explodes at bayern we still get 28 mil for him and i won't even mention we paid nothing for him.
Coman wasn't even a player like verrati or varane or pogba who as youngsters were almost sure to be huge.
The best i would think coman falls into the category of players is zaza (if we sold him), or boyake (whatever his name was) gabi (guy we sold to napoli?) And if we should have kept coman worrying about him being potentially a huge talent then we should have kept all three by the same principle. Also even if he explodes at bayern we still get 28 mil for him and i won't even mention we paid nothing for him.
So it is allegedly fact that Coman only failed because he was never played in his natural position left wing. Where is this fact stemming from? Did he ever have two successive good games playing that position in a competitive scenario? Even if he was the wunderkind on that position it was a sound decision to loan him because we do not deploy a formation he can play in as primary formation. It may be true that Morata plays that position worse, but at least having a versatile player there enables us to switch position seamlessly and hence change a game simply due to changes tactics without the need to substitute players who are a one trick pony and are not smart enough to adapt. It makes even more sense for Coman because Bayern are v dominating the league stronger than us and with Bayern he probably does not even get defensive duties.
saying coman could not play any other position is ridiculous, the guy is only 19! last year he was 18, i dont get it, what people expect? that he will be as good as tevez asap?
by the way, so far juve played 3 league games, its not much, but coman played vs udinese, and he was much more involved and dangerous on attack than any other player we have so far this season. that is playing second striker.
and what does it have to do with morata? if we have morata we cant have coman? why cant we have them both?
why do we have cuadrado? he is a winger, what makes you think he can play another roles?
why do we have zaza and mandzukic? they can only play target man role and can barely link up with the rest of the team.
this.
if allegri will keep playing the 4-3-3 coman will be a much bigger loss, especially if he turns out world class.
but hey, people prefer zaza for 20mil over players that can actually do something. :hellyes:
by the way, so far juve played 3 league games, its not much, but coman played vs udinese, and he was much more involved and dangerous on attack than any other player we have so far this season. that is playing second striker.
and what does it have to do with morata? if we have morata we cant have coman? why cant we have them both?
why do we have cuadrado? he is a winger, what makes you think he can play another roles?
why do we have zaza and mandzukic? they can only play target man role and can barely link up with the rest of the team.
this.
if allegri will keep playing the 4-3-3 coman will be a much bigger loss, especially if he turns out world class.
but hey, people prefer zaza for 20mil over players that can actually do something. :hellyes:
These were not my words but the words of Comans supporters. The excuse of him being poor was always that we did not use him right.
Nobody expects him to be like Tevez, but if he expects to be a valuable squad member and refuses to be loaned out then he should not look so clueless in the pitch. I can not remember a game where Giovinco looked so clueless for us. OK, Giovinco was muscled off the ball occasionally, but at least he had a plan what he wanted to do. With Coman it looks to me like he is very unrealistic in his self assessment. He gets the ball does a step over and expects the opponent to fall to his knees in awe. Since this does not happen in serie a he is out of options and passes the ball back. Only thing he did was give the opposing team more time to properly mark the team mates . it all sounds to me like the lord bendtner effect, where the things a player can do in his mind and the reality are two very separate worlds basically.
We can have them both but Morata would be preferred in 9 it of 10 occasions because we are more flexible with him. If you are a good tactician that wants to change the shape of the formation during the match you simply don't want to have a player that can only play one position that is not even part of your main tactic.
In the end the move was the best for Coman and however it evolves he will have a way easier time with Bayern than with us.
Nobody expects him to be like Tevez, but if he expects to be a valuable squad member and refuses to be loaned out then he should not look so clueless in the pitch. I can not remember a game where Giovinco looked so clueless for us. OK, Giovinco was muscled off the ball occasionally, but at least he had a plan what he wanted to do. With Coman it looks to me like he is very unrealistic in his self assessment. He gets the ball does a step over and expects the opponent to fall to his knees in awe. Since this does not happen in serie a he is out of options and passes the ball back. Only thing he did was give the opposing team more time to properly mark the team mates . it all sounds to me like the lord bendtner effect, where the things a player can do in his mind and the reality are two very separate worlds basically.
We can have them both but Morata would be preferred in 9 it of 10 occasions because we are more flexible with him. If you are a good tactician that wants to change the shape of the formation during the match you simply don't want to have a player that can only play one position that is not even part of your main tactic.
In the end the move was the best for Coman and however it evolves he will have a way easier time with Bayern than with us.
If he sucks and we get 7 mill and have him back.. why is that bad? Lets say at the very worst we will sell him for another 7 after we get him back? He is a shit player that we made 14 million out of. Thats a good deal if you ask me. You'd be very pleased if we sell de Ceglie for 14.
If he is amazing then we get 28 million for him. This is not a small amount especially for a 19 year old that has no first team experience. Atletico Madrid bought Griezman who is infinitely more talented for 30 million euros from Sociedad and he had already played 5 seasons as a starter there scoring 20 goals in his last season. If we can get 2 mill less for 19 year old Coman who has zero experience and wasnt going to start for us anytime in the near future then thats a great deal.
If he is a good player but not amazing (Caudrado type of player) then 28 million is still a great price to sell him for. A 19 year old Caudrado for 28 mill is an amazing selling price.
The only scenario where we should feel we were robbed is if he turns out to be the next Neymar, Ronaldo or Messi where even 19 year old versions of them were worth over 28 millions.
This deal is a win win in 3 out of 4 scenarios with the one scenario that doesn't favor us being very unlikely. For Bayern they are paying 7 mill for a loan with an expensive option. If he turns out okay or great then its a standard purchase at a fair price, if he is shit then they lost 7 mill (peanuts to them) if he is the next messi then they get him at a cut price.
If he is amazing then we get 28 million for him. This is not a small amount especially for a 19 year old that has no first team experience. Atletico Madrid bought Griezman who is infinitely more talented for 30 million euros from Sociedad and he had already played 5 seasons as a starter there scoring 20 goals in his last season. If we can get 2 mill less for 19 year old Coman who has zero experience and wasnt going to start for us anytime in the near future then thats a great deal.
If he is a good player but not amazing (Caudrado type of player) then 28 million is still a great price to sell him for. A 19 year old Caudrado for 28 mill is an amazing selling price.
The only scenario where we should feel we were robbed is if he turns out to be the next Neymar, Ronaldo or Messi where even 19 year old versions of them were worth over 28 millions.
This deal is a win win in 3 out of 4 scenarios with the one scenario that doesn't favor us being very unlikely. For Bayern they are paying 7 mill for a loan with an expensive option. If he turns out okay or great then its a standard purchase at a fair price, if he is shit then they lost 7 mill (peanuts to them) if he is the next messi then they get him at a cut price.
