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icemaη

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Morata is much less raw than Coman. Big difference in being a bench player at Madrid who even had a taste of a CL final victory, and being in PSGs youth set up playing infront of 11 people on a potato field

Obviously experience isn't everything. But I don't fancy throwing out an 18 year old who's barely played top level football on to the pitch in a huge CL match that's so closely contested.
It's Morata's third season in top flight while Coman is just out of his diapers. Does he deserve to play more in Serie A? Absolutely. 2-1 up in the champions league and try to take that one goal advantage. Not so much.
 

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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But on the other hand Morata is farting experience?

And no, Chiellini slip was just an example, maybe even a bad one. My point one is that even experienced players make stupid mistakes, we've seen shitload of those from both Chiellini and Bonucci, despite the years of experience.
Are you honestly comparing a player who has barely played 5 minutes in a handfull of games, and barely experience on the highest level, with a player that has been playing regularly at real madrid, including a CL final sub, and has been playing consistantly full length games for a while now ?


Cmon Dule, be goddamn reasonable. i'll help you.


Experienced players can make a concentration error. But they dont get schooled like an amateur.

Unexperienced players can and very likely will do both
 

Dostoevsky

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Are you honestly comparing a player who has barely played 5 minutes in a handfull of games, and barely experience on the highest level, with a player that has been playing regularly at real madrid, including a CL final sub, and has been playing consistantly full length games for a while now ?


Cmon Dule, be goddamn reasonable. i'll help you.


Experienced players can make a concentration error. But they dont get schooled like an amateur.

Unexperienced players can and very likely will do both
wtf man

Morata has far more experience than Coman.
Far more?

This season he has 700 minutes more.

Last season he started 20 of the matches for Real as a sub. Four times in the CL, literally when it didn't matter.
 

Zacheryah

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icemaη;4834007 said:
It's Morata's third season in top flight while Coman is just out of his diapers. Does he deserve to play more in Serie A? Absolutely. 2-1 up in the champions league and try to take that one goal advantage. Not so much.
This is pretty much the most important post
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I don't want to see this guy on the pitch at all in the CL. He's way too raw. His first touch gave a counterattack chance that could have been very dangerous if BvB didn't fuck up.

Where Allegri is acting stupid is by not giving him minutes in Serie A against shit teams.
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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Coman is an attacking minded player. Obviously he got the chance when Allegri saw BvB opt for the equalizer. BvB were attacking and left space behind the backline for Coman's pace. He had a bad touch on the ball leading to a BvB chance but come on, Coman is not even used to Serie A and this game was led by a ref who either didn't blow the whistle or gave a yellow. Don't recall a fault not penalized by a yellow a part from the Pogba incident.
Very hard match to enter, especially when he's been given so little playing time.
 

Dostoevsky

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icemaη;4834007 said:
It's Morata's third season in top flight
This is pretty much the most important post
Wtf are you people talking about? :D

3 seasons? 3 years ago he played ONE match for Real. What kind of top flight is that? 2 years ago he had like 5 matches as a sub for them ffs. It was only last year that he played more and even that was 20 times coming off as a bench players.

I have no idea where you gather that experience. It's NOT 3 seasons ffs.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Every player makes mistakes (apart from Del Piero) the difference is that Coman makes them on just about every appearance. But virtually every 18 year old will do the same. He is just choosing the wrong options and needs to learn that you can't always bring the ball down and head for goal.

Like @Iceman said there is a time and a place and a tight Champions League game is probably not the right one to throw him in.
 

icemaη

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Wtf are you people talking about? :D

3 seasons? 3 years ago he played ONE match for Real. What kind of top flight is that? 2 years ago he had like 5 matches as a sub for them ffs. It was only last year that he played more and even that was 20 times coming off as a bench players.

I have no idea where you gather that experience. It's NOT 3 seasons ffs.
This is his third season you dolt :D I didn't count his one match season. Two years ago he started 5 games and was sub for 7. I checked whoscored first :stuckup:
 

Dostoevsky

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icemaη;4834063 said:
This is his third season you dolt :D I didn't count his one match season.
Meh. It's not like he's getting experience by watching it from the bench (the entire season). It's like me watching it on TV and claiming a spot for our starting XI :D
 

Dostoevsky

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Btw, as people apparently separate Serie A experience and Europe experience, here's one question for them.

How do you people expect a player, like Coman, to get experience in Europe? Apparently it's risky to play him, so he'd get benched. So where does that experience comes from? 10 minutes in group stages if we're leading 3:0? Maybe in 10 years he'll be ready to step in.

Look what Atletico did with their players. Look what Dortmund did with their players, before they reached the finals.

I have no clue how some expect players to grow whey they are getting 10 minutes per month on the pitch. Not even to mention Europe since that's a different world.

It's like me applying for jobs right now. It's impossible to find a job when everyone asks for 2 years of experience, but how can I have such when nobody offers that.
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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I think what most people are saying, is he has no real experience at pro level at ALL, it's not a case of him needing CL experience to play in the CL

He's just a kid, so if he's not yet even playing in the league regularly, he has no business featuring in the CL in important games.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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He has no business in do or die games until he gets more minutes in the training grounds AKA serie A.

Allegri plz
wat?

He barely had any time to get a rhythm. What do you expect?

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FYI it says a lot of Coman that Allegri thinks highly enough of him to throw him on in a big game like this. :tup:
 

DelPieroJuve

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Loan him to sassuolo. He will get some game time, he will develop and maybe even help us by destroying roma and napoli and making them drop points. Then next season he'll be knwon as the best 19 year old winger in europe.
 

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