Katrina Hits The Big Easy! (16 Viewers)

Majed

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New Orleans braces for monster storm


NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans braced for a catastrophic blow from Hurricane Katrina overnight, as forecasters predicted the strong Category 4 storm could drive a wall of water over the city's levees.

The huge storm, packing 150 mph winds, is expected to hit the northern Gulf Coast in the next three hours and make landfall as a Category 4 hurricane Monday morning near Grand Isle, Louisiana.

Hurricane-force winds were already being felt early Monday in some parts of the state, the National Hurricane Center said. A gust of 101 mph was recorded at Southwest Pass, Louisiana, and one of 71 mph was measured in New Orleans early Monday.

At 5 a.m. ET, Katrina was centered about 90 south-southeast of New Orleans. The storm was moving to the north at about 15 mph.

The hurricane center reported that conditions had begun deteriorating along the central and northeastern coast late Sunday night. (Watch video to see the worst case scenario)

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city. (Watch video of mayor's announcement)

"This is a threat that we've never faced before," Nagin said. "If we galvanize and gather around each other, I'm sure we will get through this."

He exempted essential federal, state, and local personnel; emergency and utility workers; transit workers; media; hotel workers; and patrons from the evacuation order.

About 1.3 million people live in New Orleans and its suburbs, and many began evacuating before sunrise. (Watch video to see who's staying and who's leaving)

Nagin estimated that nearly 1 million people had fled the city and its surrounding parishes by Sunday night. (Watch time lapse video of the evacuation)

Between 20,000 and 25,000 others who remained in the city lined up to take shelter in the Louisiana Superdome, lining up for what authorities warned would be an unpleasant day and a half at minimum.

City officials told stranded tourists to stay on third-floor levels or higher and away from windows. (See video from New Orleans, a city below sea level)

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that New Orleans could expect a complete loss of electricity and water services as well as intense flooding.

"We know we're going to have property damage," she told CNN's "Larry King Live." "We know we're going to have high wind damage. We're hoping we're not going to lose a lot of lives."

About 70 percent of New Orleans is below sea level, and is protected from the Mississippi River by a series of levees. (Full story)

Forecasters predicted the storm surge could reach 28 feet; the highest levees around New Orleans are 18 feet high.

Hurricane-force winds extend 105 miles from the center of the mammoth storm and tropical storm-force winds extend outward up to 230 miles. It is the most powerful storm to menace the central Gulf Coast in decades.

Hurricane warnings are posted from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama-Florida state line, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. This means winds of at least 74 mph are expected in the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch are in effect from the Alabama-Florida state line eastward to Destin, Florida, and from west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana. A tropical storm warning is also in effect from Intracoastal City, Louisiana, west to Cameron, Louisiana, and from Destin, Florida, eastward to Indian Pass, Florida.

A tropical storm warning means tropical storm conditions, including winds of at least 39 mph, are expected within 24 hours. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible, usually within 36 hours.

Isolated tornadoes are also possible Sunday across southern portions of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida Panhandle, forecasters said.

Federal Emergency Management Agency teams and other emergency teams were in place to move in as soon as the storm was over, FEMA Undersecretary Michael Brown said.

National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield said: "There's certainly a chance it can weaken a bit before it gets to the coast, but unfortunately this is so large and so powerful that it's a little bit like the difference between being run over by an 18-wheeler or a freight train. Neither prospect is good." (Watch Mayfield's assessment of Katrina)
Three deaths in New Orleans

Three residents of a New Orleans nursing home died Sunday while being evacuated to Baton Rouge, said Don Moreau, chief of operations for the East Baton Rouge Parish Coroner's Office.

The 23 residents were supposed to stay at a church, where one of the bodies was found. The other body was found on a school bus and a third person died at a hospital, Moreau said.

The others were found to be suffering from various forms of dehydration and exhaustion, he said.

Moreau did not know whether authorities would term the deaths storm-related. "These people are very fragile," he said. "When they're loaded up on a school bus and transported out of New Orleans ..."

One person died in similar circumstances during evacuations from Hurricane Ivan, he said.

Katrina is blamed for at least seven deaths in Florida, where it made landfall Thursday as a Category 1 hurricane. As much as 18 inches of rain fell in some areas, flooding streets and homes. (See video of the damage floodwaters left in one family's new house)

Category 5 is the most intense on the Saffir-Simpson scale. Only three Category 5 hurricanes have made landfall in the United States since records were kept. Those were the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, 1969's Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew, which devastated the Miami area in 1992. Andrew remains the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, with $26.5 billion in losses.

Camille came ashore in Mississippi and killed 256 people.

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For those who want to monitor the wind strength, check here

Also, I doubt that the damage will even be near the easian tsunami, but this report just wants to eemphasis how bad this can get.
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:frown:
This is not looking good at all.
 

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Slagathor

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Andy and I dug into this in the Nick against the World thread - sounds like a frightening scenario indeed.

You used to live there, right? Still know people in the area?
 

Slagathor

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The eye-wall (the fiercest part of a hurricane) will miss New Orleans. That's the good news.

The bad news is that the winds have turned to such an angle (now that the hurricane has changed its course) that salt water is pushing up the Mississippi river; several towns have already sank into the Gulf of Mexico.

Salt water... Imagine the damage. Cars falling apart faster than you've ever seen, brick buildings turning as soft as cardboard... This is going to devastate the local economy with an impact of Soviet proportions.
 

Slagathor

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lol

Those people in Mississippi could use our delta works. Not that I deem the Bush-administration humble enough to ask us for help...
 
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++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
lol

Those people in Mississippi could use our delta works. Not that I deem the Bush-administration humble enough to ask us for help...
No, they'd probably rush into your country, "liberating you from your 'evil dictator' " , and steal the delta something or other.. :D
 
Dec 27, 2003
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Please...:rolleyes:

I sincerely hope all will be well for the people in that area, and that the economic damage can be promptly remedied. If I was a believer I'd say a prayer for them. Being an agnostic with a bit of money on the side, I'd gladly send them some if they need it.
 

Bjerknes

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Luckily for New Orleans Hurricane Katrina moved just East of the city, thus sparing them from the strongest winds, and most importantly, the heaviest storm surge. The most ferocious part of a hurricane is the East side of the eye wall, where the strongest winds are contained and therefore the most storm surge because the wind will push the water where ever the storm is travelling.

If the Hurricane travelled only 20 miles Westward the eye would have went right through New Orleans, and that would have been catastrophic as the storm surge would have been pushed up the Mississippi River towards the City, and the North winds would have pushed water from Lake Ponchitrain south creating squeeze play on New Orleans. The City is about 15-20 feet below Sea Level, the levees are only 8 feet high, the storm surge would have been 28 feet...do the math. You have a completely flooded and inhabitable city.

That said, reports are saying there is total structural devestation in New Orleans and a few sectors of the city are under water.
 

Elnur_E65

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The South Will Rise Again!

This is terrible. I lived in the Shreveport area in the mid 90s, called up my friends there- no power, no phones...

New Orleans is like a soup bowl- with all that H2O coming in the city may change forever...
 
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    ++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
    Andy and I dug into this in the Nick against the World thread - sounds like a frightening scenario indeed.

    You used to live there, right? Still know people in the area?

    Yes, and Yes. My grandparents live in New Orleans. It took them almost a day to get up to Memphis, TN (south-weastern edge of TN). They just got there a few ours ago.

    ....

    Martin, thanks for asking. Yes they are fine now. We were worried that the traffic won't clear up by the time strong winds get to them.

    ....

    Andy. Yes that's correct. New Orleans got a bit of luck at the last moment. Still though, things are pretty bad. What doesn't help is that the ground can't even take anymore water as the most of Louisiana is just swamps. My grandfather just told me that he heard there was a small hotel on the Westbank that had almost 300 people sheltered in it and it collapsed! I haven't seen this on CNN international yet, so I hope this is false.

    I really hope when things are cleared up, that the damage is not like the estimated. On a more personal level , I fear that my grandparents' house is damaged. It's less than 1/4 of a mile away from the river levee.

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    ++ [ originally posted by Elnur_E65 ] ++
    The South Will Rise Again!

    This is terrible. I lived in the Shreveport area in the mid 90s, called up my friends there- no power, no phones...

    New Orleans is like a soup bowl- with all that H2O coming in the city may change forever...
    Speaking of soup bowls, the real worst possible scenario would be if all the surrounding Chemical factories and Oil plants spill toxic waste. The whole region, including New Orleans, would be contaminated.
     

    Elnur_E65

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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


    Speaking of soup bowls, the real worst possible scenario would be if all the sourrounding Chemical factories and Oil plants spill toxic wast. The whole region, including New Orleans, would be contaminated.
    Very true...

    And if the oil refineries along the LA coast are damaged- this will boost the oil prices even further.
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
    Quarter of a mile? I hope it's alright mate :frown:
    I hope so too... Thanks...

    Between the levee and their house, there's only 2 small roads, a single row of home and a large empty land that used to have a soccer field.
     

    Turdhead

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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


    I hope so too... Thanks...

    Between the levee and their house, there's only 2 small roads, a single row of home and a large empty land that used to have a soccer field.
    Sorry mate, but they're well fvcked. Give em a call.
     
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    I just looked up your posts in Nick's thread.

    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
    That is absolutely amazing. I did not even think of the consequences of a salt water flood. If the N.O. levies are indeed flooded the damage would be catastrophic, something this country has never seen before because very few cities are actually below sea level in the States. Not to mention the impact this storm will have on the oil industry...we already have sky-high gasoline prices.

    And yeah, if Majed was here he could probably give us some insight on the city cuz I've never been there before.
    About the salt water... I honestly don't know if the Gulf's water will get to New Orleans as the city isn't exactly on the Gulf of Mexico like Venice, LA is for example. Most of the water damage will be from the Lake to the north and the River (not salt water) which surrounds the city from pretty much all other directions (That's why New Orleans is also called "Cresent City" because the river forms that shape around it).

    As mentioned, the city is like a big bowl. That bowl can keep the water too because the land is nothing but wet swamps anyway that won't ubsorb the water. The uneven/weak foundation along with the fact that many of the buildings are old adds further concern.

    I still know some guys who study there. They all left. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do.


    Check out my former campus and how far it is from the lake. :extatic: :lazy:
     

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