Correia born on 1/22/2001, he came to Juve on 9/1/2020 when he was 19. So, will he count as the homegrown player if he stay in the team until he is 21?
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My understanding is that the player has to be trained by the club for 3 years between their 15th and 21st birthdays. So if you sign anyone who is already 19 they can't be trained for 3 years before their 21st birthday. In theory you would think 17 years and 364 days old, but I don't think it works like that. It is more of an 18-21 age group at the latest, depending on where their birthday falls for registration time. The oldest they can be when you sign them to qualify as HGC is 18 years old.
After that it's
Using Filippo Ranocchia as an example:
Signed with us on 30/01/2019 - he was aged 17 years, 8 months and 16 days old. So he will have been trained at Juve for 3 years on 30/01/2022, and in theory could be included in the CL squad as a HGC player at the earliest for the second part of the 2021/22 season.
I'm also pretty sure they have to serve all that time at the club, so sending them on loan doesn't count towards your club. Therefore the best system for us would be to sign 18 years old (max) and they have 1-2 seasons in Primavera and 1-2 seasons in U23.
Of course, he can currently be part of the CL squad without being registered anyway because he is under 20 years old.
After that it's
Using Filippo Ranocchia as an example:
Signed with us on 30/01/2019 - he was aged 17 years, 8 months and 16 days old. So he will have been trained at Juve for 3 years on 30/01/2022, and in theory could be included in the CL squad as a HGC player at the earliest for the second part of the 2021/22 season.
I'm also pretty sure they have to serve all that time at the club, so sending them on loan doesn't count towards your club. Therefore the best system for us would be to sign 18 years old (max) and they have 1-2 seasons in Primavera and 1-2 seasons in U23.
Of course, he can currently be part of the CL squad without being registered anyway because he is under 20 years old.
It's clear that if we were to field a team of 19, 20 and 21 year old players with a couple of veterans then we'd be in Serie B for one season and then back down again. That's the problem with U23 teams, the same issues for the B teams of Real, Barfa, Bayern, Dortmund etc. They might occasionally get to the second tier but they don't stay for very long. Dortmund II mostly play in the 4th tier and struggle in 3. Liga, as their better young players often get fast-tracked into the first team squad.
It's hard to get out of the third tier with squads that have an average age of 21 or 22. And you cannot build anything because the team is regenerated at least every two seasons.
It's hard to get out of the third tier with squads that have an average age of 21 or 22. And you cannot build anything because the team is regenerated at least every two seasons.
No because the goal is not for the B team to be as successful as possible but to provide players for the first team. You would think they would be best served and learn more playing against better players in the second tier, but if the team is suffering every week then it can have just as much a negative effect on players. Juve U23 are a play-off team in Serie C, but they are regularly robbed of their best players because of first team call ups. That is a good thing for the players called up to train and possibly play with first team champions, it's good for the players who replace them (sometimes from the Primavera) to play in Serie C, but it's bad for Juve U23's results.
If you look at what the Spanish and German clubs have done bringing through players in the last 20 years then we have to take that as a model to follow and integrate our own. Players need chances, and they will rarely get them going from the Primavera to loans around Italy and Europe. It is a nice option to have them available to play in the first team. But eventually they either become a part of the first team squad or they go on loan. As with all big clubs, it can be about finding a niche or a spot open, as Frabotta did.
And yeah, they can help fund or sweeten other transfers for the first team squad.
If you look at what the Spanish and German clubs have done bringing through players in the last 20 years then we have to take that as a model to follow and integrate our own. Players need chances, and they will rarely get them going from the Primavera to loans around Italy and Europe. It is a nice option to have them available to play in the first team. But eventually they either become a part of the first team squad or they go on loan. As with all big clubs, it can be about finding a niche or a spot open, as Frabotta did.
And yeah, they can help fund or sweeten other transfers for the first team squad.
Welp, he’s in the squad list for Napoli as well. So u23 has pretty much graduated three players into the senior squad.
The project is starting to come together. We’re a club in transition right now- integrating a new cycle with young players and an inexperienced coach while still trying to win trophies, not an easy task- but we’re also the only club in Italy with a B team. It’s gonna take time, and obviously not every prospect is gonna stick, or even contribute with the senior side, but if they produce a quality player or two every year, they’re gonna dominate Italy again for a long time. I’ve always thought a big budget club committed to development would be a dangerous combo. To see it happening at Juve is *chefs kiss*
The project is starting to come together. We’re a club in transition right now- integrating a new cycle with young players and an inexperienced coach while still trying to win trophies, not an easy task- but we’re also the only club in Italy with a B team. It’s gonna take time, and obviously not every prospect is gonna stick, or even contribute with the senior side, but if they produce a quality player or two every year, they’re gonna dominate Italy again for a long time. I’ve always thought a big budget club committed to development would be a dangerous combo. To see it happening at Juve is *chefs kiss*
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