Juventus - Feyenoord (2 Viewers)

[DAVIDZ]

++ [ originally posted by DP's_Apprentice ] ++


Camoranesi = better defensively,better passer and crosser,more creative. Therefore,he is the better player,end of story.

From rai's website as well:

Ha deciso Di Vaio con un gol per tempo e tante grazie all'argentino Camoranesi, che di sicuro non fa rimpiangere Zambrotta, per velocità, quantità e qualità del gioco. Due assist dall'esterno destro del centrocampo bianconero e Di Vaio è andato a nozze, dimenticandosi alla fine un gol fallito davanti al portiere, sull'1-0.

 

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[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by DP's_Apprentice ] ++



Buffon - Thuram,Ferrara,Iuliano - Camoranesi,Tacchinardi,Davids,Zambrotta - Nedved - Di Vaio,Del Piero

The best 3-4-1-2 formation

------------------------------------Buffon----------------------------------
---------------------Thuram----Montero----Tudor----------------------
----------------------------Tacchi---------Davids-------------------------
-------Camoranesi-----------------Nedved--------------Zambrotta------
---------------------------Di Vaio----------Del Piero---------------------

 

[jaansu]

My italian ain't too good, but even I can see that they like our ex-Verona man.

 

[Majed]

BTW.... I heard the commentator say that Camo HAS an Italian Passport, though he didnt mention if he's half Italian.

 

[DAVIDZ]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
BTW.... I heard the commentator say that Camo HAS an Italian Passport, though he didnt mention if he's half Italian.

Ouch...not only does he take Zambo place in Juve but in NT!!!

 

[nina]

I don't think he has an italian passport, because we have him listed as a foreign player. But he could get it, since his grandfather or maybe even father is italian according to our commentator.

 

[Majed]

those ESPN commentators :fero: !!

 

[nina]

Well it's not like I'm 100% sure, but it's kind of logical that if he really had an ITA passport we would register him as an italian and had a place for one more argentinian/foreign player ... someone like D'Ale maybe

 

[BigIzz]

Buffon played very weel, but we should have won without him. Sure they had a few very good chances where they should have scored but didn't, but then again so did we.

 

[KeNgO]

a good 2-0 win!!! well deserved!

 

[Martin]

That cross from Camo for the first was really amazing. Unlike most of the crossing you will see in various games, where they just swipe it in outside the goal, Camo's had a fine curl to it that (intentionally or not) perfectly matched Di Vaio's run.

 

[Majed]

Great cross indeed!! i was amazed!! i thought he would keep the ball then pass it back or just keep on running to the goal...

Zambrotta would never cross as good as that...

 

[Vinman]

Buffon deserves the most thanks for this victory, without his unbelieveable saves, we would have lost !!!

In one word, our defense SUCKED !!!! I was wrong, Tudor CANT play defense, he almost cost us 2 goals with his errant passes right in front of our damn net- how stupid is this guy ???

On to BirindelCRAP- does he know how to mark the man on his side of the field ?? How many times was a Feyenoord player WIDE OPEN on his side with an open shot at the net ?? A lesser goalie would have let a few in today, in fact, Real , Man U, or a team of that caliber would have made our defense PAY today, not like this injury-ridden Feyenoord team who let us off the hook so many times.

Our defense is proving to be our weakness. Ferrara looked every bit 35 today, and even older.

Only Thuram looked solid today on defense , why didnt Iuliano start today ??? He's a better choice than BirindelCRAP. Futhermore, why sub Thuram for Iuliano ?? Is Lippi trying to let them back into the game by taking out our only capable defender ???!!!

WE NEED WORK !!!!!!

 

[Majed]

ur right about Tudor, though i would keep playing him as we did when DP had a bad time after injury.
If you've seen the Tudor of the 00-01 seaosn, u'll kno whis value!

Tudor at top form(in defense) is ranked amongst players like Nesta, Cannavaro, and Samuel. But dont forget that Tudor can score too....

i would keep playing him, if you notice in the game, Tudor Only got better by the minute. in the second half, he was very solid.

 

[s0ftcore]

Well, IMO Nedved didn't play too well until he started to push to the right, during the 2nd half.

Lurling created some trouble for Juve from the left (Feyenoord left, that means our right flank).

Our defence was ok... but it stills need to be beefed up. Iuliano should have started ahead of Tudor IMO. And when is Pessoto coming back? But Birendelli ain't that bad... I remember he managed to clear with a bicycle kick

 

[Majed]

:LOL: Bierindelli was all alone!! he could have passed it...he just watned to show off :LOL:

I think our defense was more than bad. I think Iuliano should have started as u said, but instead of Ferrara not Tudor.

i did notice that Thuram had a tough time on the right, but he played well. and the reason why you saw those shots on goal come from the right if juve was that Thuram covering up for Tudor and Ferrara in the Center.

Perfect Juve defense:
Thuram Tudor Montero Pessotto

Backup:
Bierindelli Ferrara Iuliano Moretti....though Fresi's not too bad either.

 

[Zebraheart]

When faced with strkers moving very quickly, we shouldn't play Tudor. Do you rember the match against Verona? Camarata make him seem like a fool. Besides, he performed clumsy in the match against Fio. But we can use him to mark strikers like Vieri. When facing such strikers he really did well.

 

[Nick]

Ok i agree with most of you guys but i would like to say that Lippi should find a way to play both camo and zambrotta as well as do something so that tudor will be able to play as a defender perhaps train him better as a defender and show him how to co operate with the rest of our defenders.Defence is a matter of co operation and synchronization among the players.
Please guys the fact that camo is playing that good is surely positive and we all should be happy that a player like him is in our squad but this doesn't mean that we should attack zambrotta since last year zambo has been one of our most consistant players.We should be praying for him to come back and play with camoranesi!!!
One good formation is 3-5-2 with 3 center backs thuram-iuliano-montero,2 defensive midfielders davids-tudor,2 wingers camo-zambo,1 attacking midfielder nedved plus del piero-di vaio/treze.
Since camo is so good while defending and zambo is well known for his ability we don't need four defenders especially when we can field midfielders like davids and tudor.
With 3-5-2 lippi won't even get into the problem adjusting tudor as a defender.
Please don't forget zambrotta!!!

 

[Reza]

++ [ originally posted by nina ] ++
Well it's not like I'm 100% sure, but it's kind of logical that if he really had an ITA passport we would register him as an italian and had a place for one more argentinian/foreign player ... someone like D'Ale maybe

nina ,he is amazing ,his cross running is splendid.

 

[s0ftcore]

If Juve could fit to a 3-5-2 system, that would be good. But soccer isn't a computer game, so well...

Now Juve is doing well with a 4-4-2... but once Trez comes back, I wonder where Di Vaio will be heading