Juventus board resigns after phone tap scandal (6 Viewers)

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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edpiero said:
i guess so yea..
whats with the sudden death question swag ?
The point being that I believe the club will ultimately better for all this in the end. More transparency. A shakeout of a lot of the unethical behavior that goes on behind closed doors (of course Juve isn't alone, but we all know there's enough smoke to suspect some fire and not complete innocence here :angel: ). A rebuilding instead of rotting from the top down. That sort of thing.
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
swag said:
The point being that I believe the club will ultimately better for all this in the end. More transparency. A shakeout of a lot of the unethical behavior that goes on behind closed doors (of course Juve isn't alone, but we all know there's enough smoke to suspect some fire and not complete innocence here :angel: ). A rebuilding instead of rotting from the top down. That sort of thing.
yes i know exactly what you mean, but there was something else bothering me..what if our new staff are actually the wrong people to take the job..what if this is the turning point of juventus' change of path from uphill all the way literally downhill..if we were to be playing in serie c next year, the only ppl to help us financially are the fans or maybe someone who is willing to buy the club..if we dont get out of the lower leagues(which of course we will) then we are doomed..by that time, fiorentina, milan , inter, palermo, roma and possibly napoli in the near future are gona be the top contenders in the serie A..i believe we will get out of it but if we dont, then were gona go through a long way to get players like neddy and vieira in..if we were in that position 2-3 years ago, then we propably wouldnt even think of selling miccoli and maresca despite the coach's relationship with them..
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
PhRoZeN said:
I said scared or anxious, so if not scared which I must admit isnt the right word but was only used in context when gio brought it up, then preferably anxious. And if you asked about teh question regarding anxious then yes, theres everything to be anxious about, we dont know our fate just yet, I wanan know if were playing in serie B or C so that I can start my job as a "fan scout" :D.
I am in a poistion now that I don't care what comes out of the court,bring the harshest punsihment, I can't hope for a escape from a scandal like this.

anyway, wherever we play, we will be back and stronger and most importantly cleaner. that's what I really care.
 

metalhead

Junior Member
Sep 23, 2005
154
speed & skill said:
Poor Patrick, I feel for him - being sold to a corrupt club like juventus.

How many players will attempt to jump out of italian football this transfer window I wonder?

How stupid is this comment :disagree:

Just because the english premier league has lower quality players, you start having day dreams that might make it more enjoyable.

Oh and I think Terry Henry (most talented player in your league) doesnt want to sign and go out. The only reason you might get something enjoyable to watch is because of Chelsea's money. :smoke:
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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PhRoZeN said:
Yes apparently that is what im scared of or rather anxious of, but to be honest i wont be suprised if he is too.. Ask yourself, why else would he be scared?. He posted his scared feelings in a topic which is related to the current situation regarding the board resigning trials e.t.c.. so no brainer there.
That's true ,mate.
You took the words from my mouth.:pint:
 
Sep 28, 2002
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FJ_forzajuve said:
Don't they have concepts of due process and natural justice in Italy? It seems trial by media is entirely acceptable. If a list like that were published in AUstralia the newspapers concerned would have 50 statements of claim on their desks for defamation so fast their heads would spin. I find it appalling that this whole thing is simply being played out in the press, as if the actual legal proceedings are not the main game.
they are naming the persons who are under investigation, they arent exactly implying that those people are guilty
 
Sep 28, 2002
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Alexander said:
This is disastrous news… Not just one member of the bloody club but ALL members handed in their resignation. Why? Because we really did cheat on a large scale. It was the perfect plan for victory. Bribing the referees and making sure that Juventus got the bribed refs so that we could win. You would have to be extremely determined that Juventus were clean to believe that all the refereeing decisions that went our way through say the last 10 years were coincidental and due to human mistakes from the referees!

For the last many years Juventus Torino FC have conducted cheating on a scale never before seen in the history of football. Systematic doping abuse during the years 1994-1998 (and hell knows probably the other years too) combined with deliberate match rigging have helped the pride of Italy to so many titles. It was meant to be held secret but the truth leaked out to the press. I suppose the board was scared that we would be ripped off some of our titles. Now they’re not part of Juve anymore so the powerful bodies in football like FIFA, UEFA, etc. will find it harder to punish the club.

I have always myself condoned the mission to cheat. Juventus is the pride of Italy and we must always win. And if that means cheating I say fucking ok. I am happy and satisfied with all the titles we achieved through this systematic cheating. Sadly it will be more than hard to continue cheating now that everyone know how we did it.

It has to be said of course that our big success in the last decade was a combination of intelligence and cheating.

Relegation? That would be insane. I hardly doubt that they would have the balls to relegate Italy’s biggest, strongest, most successful and winning club. Imagine the consequences of that? How much money lost, the major decreasing interest for the world in Italian football. Another question is whether Juventus were the only team who cheated? I say that at least Milan cheated too. They conducted tax fraud to afford their golden dutch players in the beginning of the 90’. So should Milan be relegated too? Ridiculous! And that’s without mentioning the doping abuse which is all over Italian football. Should we relegate the entire Serie A then? Laughable…

Why do you think we suddenly had a press silence? It was a last attempt to cover up the dark secrets of Juventus. It failed and now everything will have to start from scratch again.

But don’t worry. We will win Lo Scudetto. Only question is whether we will be stripped off the titles or not.

Milan cheated too. But do you see evidence of their cheating all over the press? No. Why? Because they’ve managed to cover it up better.

There is no bleeding way Inter will appoint Moggi. Inter hates Moggi. Moggi will either leave football or join Milan if you ask me.
you're disgrace to football. period.
 
Sep 28, 2002
13,975
Alexander said:
I'm never scared of anything so I'm completely fearless about this matter too. Why should we be afraid, anxious or scared?

Juventus have a big chance of avoiding any penalty whatsover because there is no evidence suggesting we did anything wrong. And if indeed they did find evidence they would have to destroy Italian football all together if they decided to send us into a lower division.
not even spiders or snakes?:pumpkin:
 

imagr

Junior Member
Dec 22, 2005
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Well as I read now also Milan is under the investigation why everyone is against Juve?

I also read (OMG) that Moggi was also arranging which players are going to be in the start-11 of National team.. Maybe he is to blame for the war in Iraq too, i am fuckin sure about this..
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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imagr said:
Well as I read now also Milan is under the investigation why everyone is against Juve?

I also read (OMG) that Moggi was also arranging which players are going to be in the start-11 of National team.. Maybe he is to blame for the war in Iraq too, i am fuckin sure about this..
Yeah it makes sense after him and saddam had a few arguments back in 2000. :D.. ssh..just make sure the press doesnt read this
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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Jeeks said:
So you are afraid the team might get relegated, why? Don't you think they deserve it?
To be objective,yes,we deserve it,but many other teams are having the same approach,but they won't be relegated.And of course I'm afraid of the future of the club that I support!
 

Durden

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May 11, 2006
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This is the time for every true Juve fan to back up the club and do everything to backup our beloved club. And remind people that we are innocent till proven guilty. And if do get proven guilty.. Well my blood is still black and white and I'll follow Juve to my grave. Just like every real Juve fan should. This is the time we need to unite and stand together!

JUVE FOR LIFE!!
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
Durden said:
This is the time for every true Juve fan to back up the club and do everything to backup our beloved club. And remind people that we are innocent till proven guilty. And if do get proven guilty.. Well my blood is still black and white and I'll follow Juve to my grave. Just like every real Juve fan should. This is the time we need to unite and stand together!

JUVE FOR LIFE!!
Welcome.

Nice post and totally agree :tup: +rep
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Durden said:
This is the time for every true Juve fan to back up the club and do everything to backup our beloved club. And remind people that we are innocent till proven guilty. And if do get proven guilty.. Well my blood is still black and white and I'll follow Juve to my grave. Just like every real Juve fan should. This is the time we need to unite and stand together!

JUVE FOR LIFE!!
Agreed!!!:agree:

+rep
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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If we move to Serie B,what will B(be)?

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Ok ,the thing is clear,we are facing the heaviest period ever(counting last 60 years).

We were linked with the several transfer moves(Gallas,Barzagli,Mancini,Rosicky...who knows....blockbuster deal....),and the only thing we are linked with ,now is our possible move to Serie B!

The question is:"What do you expect,who will leave and who will stay from the players,or is there gonna be any departures,if the relegation comes????"

Express your thoughts!!!
 

Ascension

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2005
1,882
Fliakis said:
you're disgrace to football. period.
Now now... Easy with the language. Sooner or later the kids are gonna pick up on it and then what??? :eek:

I am a hardcore Juve fan... I'd say any real Juve fan should either approve of what was done or go support an innocent club like West Ham!

I can't believe these revelations have come as such a surprise to everyone. The cheatings have been going on since the middle of the 90's. Anyone who couldn't see that the Juve team back then was completely doped up on EPO and whatnot is blindfolded. Any person who claims Juventus haven't received massive help from the referees in these last few years should either get contact lenses or wake up from the fairytale dream of yours where football players are clean and referees play fair.

What's next, you're gonna tell me the US elections were fair too? Dear lord! :lol:

What would you do if you were a referee in Italy and Moggi called you on your cellphone and promised you a new Ferrari or 1 million euro by simply lending the pride of Italy a hand once in a while? I'd say hell yes! I'd go as far as saying the referees who refused such a proposition are weak as hell!!

And yes, I'm not a afraid of anything. Torture? No problem. My secret lies in my belief in God. God protects me, so nothing bad will ever happen to me unless it's part of the master plan. Take that, little boy.
 

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