Juventus board resigns after phone tap scandal (14 Viewers)

[Snoop]

I can name some players that will play with Juve at lower divisions.

me too.

I know who our true "soldiers" are, and Capello or Zlatan are definitly not any of them

But I don't blame them for that

 

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[Ascension]

Relax my friend. No need to get mad or anything.

Innocent until proven guilty? Yes. But if you read between the lines of today's football in an objective way you will come to the same conclusions I did.

 

[JCK]

No because juve, instead of just a football club, would be a dirty crime syndicate with connections that have led italian football to ruin. The fans will be hurt hard and dissapointed. They have been supporters for years of an ongoing charade. It's not about accepting punishement or not; ofcourse we should be punished ( if this is true ofcourse), that goes without saying.
You talk about 'true' fans. Is a fan who will continue to follow a scandalously dirty club a 'truer' fan or actually more of a blind fan. I myself will continue to follow juve, but that would not make make me more of a 'true' fan at all. Those that will forsake juve, chose to be fans of this football club, not fans of this charade.

No one is comparing true and not true here. It is just being a fan or not.

As for the other thing, so if we were supporting a club that was in scandals, we will feel sad, we will feel ashamed and we will want the better out of the situation. Personally, I think that the best is to receive the punishment and start clean.

 

[Dominic]

No one is comparing true and not true here. It is just being a fan or not.

As for the other thing, so if we were supporting a club that was in scandals, we will feel sad, we will feel ashamed and we will want the better out of the situation. Personally, I think that the best is to receive the punishment and start clean.

Yeah true, but i'm just saying I won't blame one for not being a fan anymore after this situation. Those forsakees are completely in their right to turn their backs towards the club. Although that kind of makes me sound like a righteous and pompeous prick.

 

[FJ_forzajuve]

Relax my friend. No need to get mad or anything.

Innocent until proven guilty? Yes. But if you read between the lines of today's football in an objective way you will come to the same conclusions I did.

I see. Well I didn't.

 

[JCK]

Yeah true, but i'm just saying I won't blame one for not being a fan anymore after this situation. Those forsakees are completely in their right to turn their backs towards the club. Although that kind of makes me sound like a righteous and pompeous prick.

Well these who would turn their back on the team are those who want to support another team competing in bigger competitions.

 

[Dominic]

Or just want to support football..

 

[JCK]

Or just want to support football..

Football is also lower divisions.



BTW, on another note, after all this jumbalaya, Nike is happy in designing the new stripeless jersey. Maybe it is Nike who is doing all this just to direct the attention somewhere else

 

[Ascension]

I see. Well I didn't.

It's fair enough if you or any other Juve fan demand hard and cold evidence before they admit to the cheatings.

However, if you look realistically at the situation football is full of cheating everywhere. My point is that if you desire a punishment for cheating you should relegate 90% of all teams to serie C...

Take a moment to remember all the times Juventus have mysteriously been handed a free kick, a penalty or a red card for the opponent. Then ask yourself, was it a coincidence or is there a larger reason behind it all?

 

[Eddy]

I heard about the scandal 2 days ago, its getting bigger and bigger each day but I doubt we will be transferred to Serie B, maybe a 10 point deduction for next season but whatever it is, we will always be back on a higher level..

JUVE PER SEMPRE!!

 

[giovanotti]

TBH, I'm scared!

 

[Ascension]

I would like to say that no matter what happens to Juventus I will always support this club which has given me so many good memories. The pride of Italy will never die!

 

[JCK]

TBH, I'm scared!

What are you scared of?

 

[PhRoZeN]

What are you scared of?

Serie B or C. Or rather the fact that the newspaper are gonna mention half a dozen more of of our juve players be it past or present. The scared of humiliation. The scared of losing money. Being scared of stripped of a title.. I think theres plenty of reasons as to why a juve fan would feel anxious or even scared. Its a difficult time for fans and club and for those who are optimistic that everything will be alrite must know something that I dont and if so.. please talk it to me.

 

[JCK]

Serie B or C. Or rather the fact that the newspaper are gonna mention half a dozen more of of our juve players be it past or present. The scared of humiliation. The scared of losing money. Being scared of stripped of a title.. I think theres plenty of reasons as to why a juve fan would feel anxious or even scared. Its a difficult time for fans and club and for those who are optimistic that everything will be alrite must know something that I dont and if so.. please talk it to me.

So is this what YOU are scared of or you know what he is scared of?

 

[PhRoZeN]

So is this what YOU are scared of or you know what he is scared of?

Yes apparently that is what im scared of or rather anxious of, but to be honest i wont be suprised if he is too.. Ask yourself, why else would he be scared?. He posted his scared feelings in a topic which is related to the current situation regarding the board resigning trials e.t.c.. so no brainer there.

 

[JCK]

Yes apparently that is what im scared of or rather anxious of, but to be honest i wont be suprised if he is too.. Ask yourself, why else would he be scared?. He posted his scared feelings in a topic which is related to the current situation regarding the board resigning trials e.t.c.. so no brainer there.

I just wanted to know what is he scared of, because personally I am not scared.

 

[PhRoZeN]

So how come your not scared or anxious?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Rome police have raided the offices of the Italian football federation as the inquiry into an alleged refereeing scandal involving Juventus continues.

Published transcripts of phone taps suggest Juve's outgoing general manager Luciano Moggi attempted to influence the choice of referees last season.

Juve's entire board resigned on Thursday, days after Italian football chief Franco Carraro quit his post.

Police have also raided the Italian referees' association.

Referee Massimo de Santis, who will officiate at the World Cup this year, was interviewed by Naples prosecutors on Wednesday.

Juventus need only a point from their final game against Reggina on Sunday to clinch their 29th Serie A title.

Carraro responded to reports earlier this week that he was under investigation by saying: "I am absolutely calm because I know I have always acted correctly.

"Over the years I have featured in many investigations from magistrates and I have always been cleared or acquitted."

If Juventus were to be found guilty of "sporting fraud", the technical term used in Italy, they could be stripped of their title win and face demotion to the second tier Serie B.

The scandal erupted last week when newspapers published transcripts of Moggi's telephone conversations with senior federation officials regarding refereeing appointments.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/europe/4765173.stm

Published: 2006/05/12 11:37:27 GMT

 

[Ascension]

I'm never scared of anything so I'm completely fearless about this matter too. Why should we be afraid, anxious or scared?

Juventus have a big chance of avoiding any penalty whatsover because there is no evidence suggesting we did anything wrong. And if indeed they did find evidence they would have to destroy Italian football all together if they decided to send us into a lower division.