Juventus 'accept Serie B' (11 Viewers)

Marty

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Category: <b>General</b><br><br>Juventus’ lawyer told the Calciopoli trial that the best punishment for the club would be Serie B rather than a drop down to the Third Division.

“Demotion to Serie B with docked points would be a congruous punishment,” Cesare Zaccone claimed in court this evening.

Yesterday prosecutor Stefano Palazzi requested the Bianconeri go down to “a Division lower than Serie B” with a six-point penalty for their part in the match-fixing allegations. He also asked for Lazio and Fiorentina to begin with a 15 point penalty in Serie B, where they’d be joined by Milan on minus three points.

Director general Luciano Moggi is at the centre of the scandal after his telephone conversations were wiretapped, allegedly attempting to influence the referees assigned to their matches.

“You can’t talk about direct responsibility for Juventus, as Moggi has never been a legal representative of the club,” added the lawyer today. “I also believe that Antonio Giraudo should only be considered indirectly responsible for any wrong-doing. The only issue here is the seriousness of the facts, which in my view should be largely re-evaluated.”

The Turin giants are attempting to distance themselves from Moggi, who has already resigned from his post, and rescue the situation as best they can.

“The sanction requested by the prosecutor would devalue the squad by 80 per cent. As the trial continues, 79 per cent of the club’s income is in danger. Juventus do not have a single benefactor behind the side willing to invest money.”

Much has been made in the run-up to the trial of the so-called ‘Moggi system’, but lawyer Zaccone attempted to spread the blame.

“There were at least five different systems going on in football. One was created in Genoa, another in Florence, then in Rome which included leading figures in the Federation and another system working in Milan. All of them were opposed and conflicting. This is all that’s needed to explain why the idea of a Mafia-like total system involving everyone is impossible.”

Lazio President Claudio Lotito and Fiorentina patron Diego Della Valle also spoke at the trial today. Both insisted they were “victims of the system” rather than orchestrators and that they had never requested favours from referees.

Former FIGC President Franco Carraro spoke out this morning. “The accusation of sporting fraud levelled at me is humiliating and vile. I acted in good faith and have never cheated anyone. If the facts are confirmed, then something very serious happened in the 2004-05 season.”<br><br>Source: Football Italia
 

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Marty

Marty

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    Of course Serie B is better than C, but it would still be a disaster financially and players would be lost.
     

    Morra10

    Senior Member
    Apr 30, 2006
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    serie B isnt all that bad, its better then serie C and this way we can still play teams like milan fiorentina and lazio........ but still it would be a sad day for juve to go down.

    on another note if they went down were would luca toni go? you think he would stay with fiorentina if they went down, i just hope he wouldnt leave italy
     

    Dano

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    Jul 5, 2006
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    Marty said:
    Of course Serie B is better than C, but it would still be a disaster financially and players would be lost.
    Spot on. Although there is a positive about the whole losing of some of our quality players… If we were going to Serie C, we’d lose more! Just think of it like that, let’s try and be as positive as possible with the punishment given.
     

    PhRoZeN

    Livin with Mediocre
    Mar 29, 2006
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    gotta applaude this lawyer, :faq1: his already half agreeing that the side his representing could be wrong. Whats the point of having a case when you cant even fight it properly. For gods sake talk about punishment when all conclusive proove is brought forwards.. i know ill proberly get some criticism over these comments ive made, especially from those who have already made there mind up that we deserve to go down no matter what. Fight a case, let the prosecutors bring all the records of moggi and co and let the trial begin, otherwise this is nothing more than a mediated circus composed by those who really are suicidal. I aint by any chance saying we proberly may or may not deserve serie B or C time will tell.. or rather from what im seeing.. maybe not.
     

    Oggy

    and the Cockroaches
    Dec 27, 2005
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    Phrozen I tottally agree with you, lawyers can't just agree with prosecutors and say we gonna play in Serie B.

    Like everyone said and it's obvius Serie B is sure better than C, but I'm still hoping for Serie A, hope is dying last... But I think we are in noway out situation, and Juve must take the best what is offered, and we must try to look situation from that way...

    Anyway I'm still full of optimism, and even if we get relegated to Serie B or C I will stay positive, trying too se that like new and better beginig for the club and our reputation.

    FORZA JUVE !!!
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    PhRoZeN said:
    gotta applaude this lawyer, :faq1: his already half agreeing that the side his representing could be wrong. Whats the point of having a case when you cant even fight it properly. For gods sake talk about punishment when all conclusive proove is brought forwards.. i know ill proberly get some criticism over these comments ive made, especially from those who have already made there mind up that we deserve to go down no matter what. Fight a case, let the prosecutors bring all the records of moggi and co and let the trial begin, otherwise this is nothing more than a mediated circus composed by those who really are suicidal. I aint by any chance saying we proberly may or may not deserve serie B or C time will tell.. or rather from what im seeing.. maybe not.
    That's just not true. What he's doing is pleading guilty but referring to circumstances. He'll also point out that there are other clubs involved and that Serie C is a far too heavy penalty. Saying Juventus should stay in A, and thus saying they did nothing wrong, is ridiculous and only damages your credibility. It's good that he conceded this much, now he should stand his ground.
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    Plea bargaining always seems to work this way. If you act all demented in front of the judge as if you did nothing wrong, they will rightfully get pissed at your denial and are more likely to try to throw the book at you.
     

    Morra10

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    Apr 30, 2006
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    PhRoZeN said:
    gotta applaude this lawyer, :faq1: his already half agreeing that the side his representing could be wrong. Whats the point of having a case when you cant even fight it properly. For gods sake talk about punishment when all conclusive proove is brought forwards.. i know ill proberly get some criticism over these comments ive made, especially from those who have already made there mind up that we deserve to go down no matter what. Fight a case, let the prosecutors bring all the records of moggi and co and let the trial begin, otherwise this is nothing more than a mediated circus composed by those who really are suicidal. I aint by any chance saying we proberly may or may not deserve serie B or C time will tell.. or rather from what im seeing.. maybe not.

    theres nothing wrong with having a plan B
     

    Mark

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    Dec 19, 2003
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    These titles make me sick. He said that if they find that Juve did commit sporting fraud the fair thing would be serie B with point deduction. He didn't say, we won't do sh*t and accept serie B.
     

    SiccSense

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    Jul 4, 2006
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    #16
    Serie B is at a pretty pathetic standard, Juve would most likely get promotion within a year and maintain quite a few of their players along with sustaining a large portion of their tv, sponsorship revenue, so not so bad.
     

    Hydde

    Minimiliano Tristelli
    Mar 6, 2003
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    It will be bad believe me..... and no one can guarantee that juve will get to serie B aty first attepmtm

    And juventus has aready lost their financial back up
     

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