Juventus 2011 demonstrations (1 Viewer)

Djabrail

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May 23, 2008
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#84
As I was watching the match and texting Andy during the process, something happened to me near the end of that match that has never happened before during a domestic league match.

I laid on my couch, and I cried.

A 41 year old man, the same man who has beena supporter of Juventus since he was 6 years old, cried on his couch.

There have been some heartbreaking losses that have happened during previous championshiop campaigns that would make one want to cry, but this was different.

Those teams of the past, even when they lost some important matches in their chase for the scudetto, at least gave everything that they had. They were beaten because, in the end, they were not the better team that day, whether on paper or on the pitch.

I saw a team that gave up on themselves, and their fans.

I don't ask juventus to be the best team in the world every single year, no team can be that, especially in the new landscape and economy of modern football. That is a dream that more often than not is simply unattainable in this day and age, regardless of what team that you are.

But this team doesn't even seem to try anymore. They just don't. I realize that I am not a shareholder, and really the only investments that I have made to the cause are buying jerseys, posters, other types of souveniers, and buying tickets for matches when they come to the U.S.

I shouldn't have such an emotional attachment to a team, but I do in this case.

I feel as if this team is not olnly letting myself down, but my mother down, my deceased grandparents down, and my deceased great grandfather down as well. Members of my family who have been Juventus Supporters since the 1930's.

I don't claim, or would never claim, to be an expert on everything Juventus, or even football in general. My time is somewhat divided between Juve, the Montreal Canadiens, the Lakers, 49ers, Dodgers, and USC Football.

But the difference between them and Juve, with the exception of the Canadiens, is that my affection for these teams were not passed down as a gift from a generation or 4 long ago.

This is why my heart hurts. This is why I schedule my Saturday afternoon or Sunday mornings or afternnon around Juventus. Because in my heart, I'm carrying on a tradition that was passed down to me, and I feel that I have to suffer, for myself, and for my family, because I will not,and refuse to be, the one who breaks the chain between my family and our connection with Juve.

I don't know what to do. I really wish I had the answers. I really wish it were as simple as firing Del Neri, and bringin in another coach in the hopes of giving them a spark. But this didn't work last year either.

I can't understand how a team can beat Milan, and Inter in the domestic league, yet have some of the most inexplicable performances against inferior squads that yes, this current Juve, should be able to manhandle.

They broke my heart yesterday, they really did. Not just because they lost, but they just don't seem to care anymore.
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Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
#85
As I was watching the match and texting Andy during the process, something happened to me near the end of that match that has never happened before during a domestic league match.

I laid on my couch, and I cried.

A 41 year old man, the same man who has beena supporter of Juventus since he was 6 years old, cried on his couch.

There have been some heartbreaking losses that have happened during previous championshiop campaigns that would make one want to cry, but this was different.

Those teams of the past, even when they lost some important matches in their chase for the scudetto, at least gave everything that they had. They were beaten because, in the end, they were not the better team that day, whether on paper or on the pitch.

I saw a team that gave up on themselves, and their fans.

I don't ask juventus to be the best team in the world every single year, no team can be that, especially in the new landscape and economy of modern football. That is a dream that more often than not is simply unattainable in this day and age, regardless of what team that you are.

But this team doesn't even seem to try anymore. They just don't. I realize that I am not a shareholder, and really the only investments that I have made to the cause are buying jerseys, posters, other types of souveniers, and buying tickets for matches when they come to the U.S.

I shouldn't have such an emotional attachment to a team, but I do in this case.

I feel as if this team is not olnly letting myself down, but my mother down, my deceased grandparents down, and my deceased great grandfather down as well. Members of my family who have been Juventus Supporters since the 1930's.

I don't claim, or would never claim, to be an expert on everything Juventus, or even football in general. My time is somewhat divided between Juve, the Montreal Canadiens, the Lakers, 49ers, Dodgers, and USC Football.

But the difference between them and Juve, with the exception of the Canadiens, is that my affection for these teams were not passed down as a gift from a generation or 4 long ago.

This is why my heart hurts. This is why I schedule my Saturday afternoon or Sunday mornings or afternnon around Juventus. Because in my heart, I'm carrying on a tradition that was passed down to me, and I feel that I have to suffer, for myself, and for my family, because I will not,and refuse to be, the one who breaks the chain between my family and our connection with Juve.

I don't know what to do. I really wish I had the answers. I really wish it were as simple as firing Del Neri, and bringin in another coach in the hopes of giving them a spark. But this didn't work last year either.

I can't understand how a team can beat Milan, and Inter in the domestic league, yet have some of the most inexplicable performances against inferior squads that yes, this current Juve, should be able to manhandle.

They broke my heart yesterday, they really did. Not just because they lost, but they just don't seem to care anymore.
now I know why you didnt text me during the game....

if you would have spoken to me, no doubt one of us, if not both, would have jumped off the top of the nearest and highest building :p
 
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Fake Melo

Fake Melo

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  • Thread Starter #88

    Juventus must decide - minnow or giant?



    Evidently Juventus are suffering and everyone at the club has been blamed for the crisis with good reason. Management has been criticised for poorly conducted transfer campaigns, players have been accused of playing without passion and determination and the Coach has been condemned for his poor tactics. However, whichever way you look at it, the problem with Juventus is purely psychological. Everyone from the management down to the Coach and his players are suffering from the weight of this prestigious jersey and the pressure has become too much to bear as none of these people are well acquainted with the notion of infinite success.

    Playing and indeed working at Juventus requires something more than talent – it requires mental strength. Unfortunately this mental strength is missing from all areas and as such, we continue to witness a psychologically weak Juventus acting as a provincial side that relentlessly falls prey to panicked dealings.

    Starting with management, they arrived with a clear plan but succumbed to panic almost immediately and began to act hastily. Rather than stick with the current spine of the team and work on the areas that required bolstering, they changed everything too quickly and in doing so made several mistakes. One was unloading Diego for such a paltry sum. The most significant was the decision to purchase Jorge Martinez for such a high price. Beppe Marotta has since explained they overspent as they desperately required another winger in time for the Europa League qualifiers but if they analysed the player properly then they would have gathered that he is a type of winger best suited to a 4-3-3 formation and not to Del Neri’s 4-4-2 that focuses heavily on the work rate of the wingers. That ill-advised purchase was clearly the result of panic as were the purchases of Armand Traore and Leandro Rinaudo as full-backs.

    With regards to the players, David Trezeguet put it best when he said: “Juventus need to sign three champions who are used to winning trophies, not eight who are used to finishing in fourth place.” Purchasing champions does not solely buy you outrageous flair - it buys you a strong mentality and the will to fight until the dying minutes of the game. In the match against Bologna, only Alessandro Del Piero seemed desperate to find a goal whilst the rest of the squad sank deeper into low self-esteem – typical for players unaccustomed to fighting for top honours. With a team that can no longer depend on Milos Krasic’s creativity, it is evident from the match against Parma, that they now doubt their ability to cope without individual talent.

    As for the Coach, it appears he has also given into panic. Being a great tactician who is well versed in the art of psychological training will get you the job but staying true to your ideals and your vision of the game under increasing pressure and mounting criticism is quite the other. Luigi Del Neri is beginning to lose himself and by trying to adapt to the ideas of those around him, he has begun to lose games. The problem with the match against Bologna was that the Coach lost confidence in his methods. He attempted to be versatile by changing the shape of the squad and it resulted in a terrible loss as his high defence were left exposed yet again. What he should have done was stayed faithful to his vision.

    However you look it, Juventus have two options. Either they continue to believe they are giants of the game by working diligently, ruthlessly and with composition as they add a champion to the ranks each year or they accept they are no longer a big team and rid themselves of the pressure. What will it be?
     

    Bezzy

    The Bookie Queen
    Jun 5, 2010
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    However you look it, Juventus have two options. Either they continue to believe they are giants of the game by working diligently, ruthlessly and with composition as they add a champion to the ranks each year or they accept they are no longer a big team and rid themselves of the pressure. What will it be?

    that's is impossible because of the media are jumping on juve all the time and not only in Italy.
     

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