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Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#47
I expect better performance and TBH 6 draws and 1 loss is a little too much choking if you ask me.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
#48
We are accomodated to the leauge but you can't expect us to win every game. That kind of thinking must change.
well its not unreasonable to expect us to win every game but it is unrealistic. and TBH we all expect the club to put a string of good results together, we won 8 in a row at the start of the season and since then the most we've managed is 3-4 wins in a row, and that plain and simply is not good enough
 

malducato1

Junior Member
Dec 26, 2005
456
#49
Yes, but after 21 games we should be already accomodated to this league.
The big thing is the injurys, the team has not been able to field the same line up every game and this does not give them time to forge an understanding with everyone. In the Bari game Nedveds first one back from susp you could see on the field how well Nedved, Del Piero and Trez all work togather and knew what spots to be at and this come from all there years playing togather.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#50
The big thing is the injurys, the team has not been able to field the same line up every game and this does not give them time to forge an understanding with everyone. In the Bari game Nedveds first one back from susp you could see on the field how well Nedved, Del Piero and Trez all work togather and knew what spots to be at and this come from all there years playing togather.
Nedved, Del Piero and Trez played together against Spezia too, but the performance was fairly poor.
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
20,110
#51
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well its not unreasonable to expect us to win every game but it is unrealistic. and TBH we all expect the club to put a string of good results together, we won 8 in a row at the start of the season and since then the most we've managed is 3-4 wins in a row, and that plain and simply is not good enough
That attitude is wrong imo. We are the strongest team in serie b but not by a mile as some believe. We have some world class quality but a lot of the team is serie b level, some even below if you ask me, this team wouldn't hold a top 5 spot in serie a. Also the injuries have not helped us lately. We lost one game and are top of the table, come end of season we'll have more than 1 loss, important thing is to finish 1st, nothing else.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,998
#52
I expect better performance and TBH 6 draws and 1 loss is a little too much choking if you ask me.
oh quit ur bitchin' honestly! with what didi has at his disposal? and with injury and suspensions, to me thats a f*cking impressive record.

we are first rite? so whats the f*cking problem? what did u expect? the serie B title by xmas? think again, its serie B teams will come at us harder cuz of who we are.

so get real, no1 said serie B was a walk over, and sumtimes the odd defeat or draw does us a hell of alot of good as if u keep on winning, the arrogance sets in and thats when choking happens
 
Apr 29, 2006
3,158
#54
Truly original opinions. All of them.
But either you are wrong, either the board of Juve Directors.

See if we need "21" or more games so the players could have better understanding between each other, then not BUYING classy players NOW will surely separate us from the title next year. Hell, that might even separate us from the CL positions and this is horrible.
I could not agree with the thinking that professional players, adopting tactics every day would need half a season to improove field communication. Maybe we should send them back to school? lol
I hope the board is confident enough regarding the 'communication issue', because with the same game next year (if in SERIA A) we would have 1 win and 6 draws total. +Even if we make big transfers, simply because they will just start 'speaking' with each other. I saw Milan spending almost 20 mil. euros and their game improoved just a bit, though I would not qualify their transfer politics as unsuccessful (or at least totaly). Maybe we should actually play Bojinov more, but as he is far from signing (Milan topped our offer by 1 mil. last day) I would not expect him to show desire right now.
I might receive a lot of negative reputation, but DD is a duchebag. I would not expect him to improove - actually I think problems will get deeper. At the beginning of the season the team was playing to proove they've been mistreated, but such an inspiration results in a heavy stamina loss and injuries. Now that we come current status - we've got some players tired of the heavy Seria B schedule and we've got our most promising talents with the desire to leave. I know everyone should respect the team first, but not the team says who plays, who doesn't and if yes - HOW.
So 6 draws, 1 loss and 21 games total in Seria B is not really the kind of game that is gonna win anything next season, besides the Berluscony or TIM cup.
I am really amazed, how people tolerate such results and do not pressure the board or coach. Having faith is one thing, being blind totaly different. Remmeber that too much of a saint is not held dear even by God.
IMHO.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#55
oh quit ur bitchin' honestly! with what didi has at his disposal? and with injury and suspensions, to me thats a f*cking impressive record.

we are first rite? so whats the f*cking problem? what did u expect? the serie B title by xmas? think again, its serie B teams will come at us harder cuz of who we are.

so get real, no1 said serie B was a walk over, and sumtimes the odd defeat or draw does us a hell of alot of good as if u keep on winning, the arrogance sets in and thats when choking happens
Without so much swearing and Binter shit you would be a pretty cool dude. :D

And no matter what you say, performance IS the problem :p And good you mentioned arrogance, there has been too much of it lately.

we are a team who play as a unit mark, not a team dependant on 3 players
That are probably our 3 most prolific players together with Camoranesi and without them this team would be fairly average, that´s why we kept them, right?

No matter how we much we play as a team, these 3 players are game-solvers.

You mentioned injuries, I mentioned these 3 players. Even with them in pretty good form we chocked against one of the weakest teams in Serie B.
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
#57
That attitude is wrong imo. We are the strongest team in serie b but not by a mile as some believe. We have some world class quality but a lot of the team is serie b level, some even below if you ask me, this team wouldn't hold a top 5 spot in serie a. Also the injuries have not helped us lately. We lost one game and are top of the table, come end of season we'll have more than 1 loss, important thing is to finish 1st, nothing else.
Please enlighten me to which players you think are really serieB level and which in your opinion are below serieB. I am being serious as i hardly watch matches and some of the players i have never seen play before
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
20,110
#58
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Perhaps there was exagerration in my words but I'd say Birindelli, Piccolo, Giannichedda, De Ceglie, Marchisio for example are all Serie B level.

A lot of our youngsters are fine young players but I think a lot of people are overestimating them. I don't know if any of them, apart from perhaps Paro and Palladino, would hold their own in Serie A. This team is gonna need a lot of investments and I seriously doubt we will rely much on the youngster we have here and now next season. They serve their purpose now but players I mentioned in the first sentence won't be getting much playing time next season.
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
#59
Perhaps there was exagerration in my words but I'd say Birindelli, Piccolo, Giannichedda, De Ceglie, Marchisio for example are all Serie B level.

A lot of our youngsters are fine young players but I think a lot of people are overestimating them. I don't know if any of them, apart from perhaps Paro and Palladino, would hold their own in Serie A. This team is gonna need a lot of investments and I seriously doubt we will rely much on the youngster we have here and now next season. They serve their purpose now but players I mentioned in the first sentence won't be getting much playing time next season.
Its very rare to have a really good right back so i think your estimation of Birindelli is quite harsh, seriously if Geremi can play in the upper tier so can Birindelli. Giannichedda, i have always felt is underrated, put him with skilful players around him and you would see his true worth. Playing alongside defensive midfielders is not a good role for him as it will show him in a very bad light. As for the others, i have no idea about them so i cannot comment. Would palladino hold his own in a juventus team or a lesser team in serieA?
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#60
Palladino was on of the best Livorno´s players last season in Serie A and this season he is quite impressive and very live. :)
 

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