Juve last minute move.... (3 Viewers)

Jun-hide

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2002
2,068
#61
I expect better performance and TBH 6 draws and 1 loss is a little too much choking if you ask me.
Well, I am not impressed by our recent form, but in DD's defence, he probably didn't have first eleven available since Week 1. I think early form is more indicative of our true ability than recent injury riddled results. Surely given that injury crisis can't go any worse than from here, I expect to bounce back pretty soon.

BTW, can anyone enlighten me how old Boumsong is doing?
 

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Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
#62
That attitude is wrong imo. We are the strongest team in serie b but not by a mile as some believe. We have some world class quality but a lot of the team is serie b level, some even below if you ask me, this team wouldn't hold a top 5 spot in serie a. Also the injuries have not helped us lately. We lost one game and are top of the table, come end of season we'll have more than 1 loss, important thing is to finish 1st, nothing else.
I'd like to know why that attitude is wrong. I dont expect us to win every game but with the team we have we certainly shoud do, were a step above the rest even if we have some average players. And no we wouldnt hold a top 5 spot in serie A especially with the performances we've been churning out despite Catania being 5th at the moment, and are they really that much better than serie B opposition???
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#64
http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/bach_contratti.shtml

click on Juventus

We bought Belardi from Reggina, he was on loan here. Reggina also as bought keeper Puggioni that was recommended by Moggi himself not too long ago. Moggi said Puggioni was a great keeper for a mid-table Serie A team. Pelizzoli was sold.

I see also that we took back Marco Russo from Teramo. :tup: :p



Just what we needed Mr. Secco!!! :smoke:
great, now nobody can stop our promotion to A:agree:
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
#66
Well, I am not impressed by our recent form, but in DD's defence, he probably didn't have first eleven available since Week 1. I think early form is more indicative of our true ability than recent injury riddled results. Surely given that injury crisis can't go any worse than from here, I expect to bounce back pretty soon.

BTW, can anyone enlighten me how old Boumsong is doing?

Old Boumsong is still injured, should be back in about 2 weeks +- I guess.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
#67
ive been on this forum approximately 2.657534 years now and that seems to be your opinion no matter who is in charge :D
I seem to remember you being one of the biggest CRAPpello supporters on our forum when he was in charge, and I seemed to be right about everything I said about him then

dont believe me...then ask Ronaldo or any Real supporter
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
#68
This is for Vinny :D

Real Madrid's Guti in amazing Capello blow-up

tribalfooball.com - February 01, 2007

Real Madrid midfielder Guti had a blow-up with coach Fabio Capello in training yesterday.

AS says that Guti, after collecting a hefty knock to his ankle, marched off to the dressing room, ignoring Capello's demands he stay.

"You can't leave!" barked Capello. "I am the only one here who can decide when you can leave."

Guti kept walking.

"I have told you, you can't leave," continued Capello. "Come here! I am the one in charge."

Real assistant coach Toni Grande attempted to convince Guti to return, but the midfielder replied: "No, my ankle is hurting. I won't go back. I don't care what c*** the Italian is saying."

Capello also chose yesterday to again isolate David Beckham and Antonio Cassano from the rest of the first team squad.

Beckham, imparticular, was visibly upset by the decision. The midfielder has recovered from a slight injury and had hoped to be recalled for first team duty this week.
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
20,110
#69
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I'd like to know why that attitude is wrong.
Because Serie B is not as easy as you think.
I dont expect us to win every game but with the team we have we certainly shoud do, were a step above the rest even if we have some average players.
So you don't expect us to win every game, but you think with the team we have we certainly should. :confused: So we are the strongest, as we both have agreed, so you expect us to win every game and not draw or loose against "weaker" opposition. What kind of thinking is that? We were the strongest last season as well still we managed to loose a game and draw with much weaker teams like Chievo, Messina, Parma, Cagliari..., didn't we? FFS get over it Juve is not a powerhouse anymore, we are the strongest team in a second division, that's it. With some quality signings we can get back to our old selves but don't fool yourself we are far from it atm.
And no we wouldnt hold a top 5 spot in serie A especially with the performances we've been churning out despite Catania being 5th at the moment, and are they really that much better than serie B opposition???
That's just ridiculous. So what if Catania is currently 5th? What's your point? Do you know anything about Catania anyway? Do you knkw how they are playing this season or are you diminishing them and their effort just because of their name? Yeah, we are Juventus, they are Catania, it's obvious who'll win. Woohoo.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,998
#71
you have to start to forget about chimi :D
u need to start praising him :p

:disagree:
Hahahaha, that was exactly what Crapello was thinking last season. And he was prooved wrong. We totaly DEPEND on some players, that is the reason they got their STATUS/SALARY.
no crapello is a out of date manager who needs people managerial skills. under lippi we played as a unit it has always been our style

Without so much swearing and Binter shit you would be a pretty cool dude. :D

And no matter what you say, performance IS the problem :p And good you mentioned arrogance, there has been too much of it lately.



That are probably our 3 most prolific players together with Camoranesi and without them this team would be fairly average, that´s why we kept them, right?

No matter how we much we play as a team, these 3 players are game-solvers.

You mentioned injuries, I mentioned these 3 players. Even with them in pretty good form we chocked against one of the weakest teams in Serie B.

im alredi a cool dude :p

i dno about u but u prob dont play a sport at a professional level, but from my experience playing the 'weaker' teams always put up a better more resilient fight. people judge too many things as to whats on paper.

and we are not totally dependant on nedved etc... yes they are vital but we have shown we can cope without them with the likes of marchionni, palladino,mirante
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,998
#72
Because Serie B is not as easy as you think.

So you don't expect us to win every game, but you think with the team we have we certainly should. :confused: So we are the strongest, as we both have agreed, so you expect us to win every game and not draw or loose against "weaker" opposition. What kind of thinking is that? We were the strongest last season as well still we managed to loose a game and draw with much weaker teams like Chievo, Messina, Parma, Cagliari..., didn't we? FFS get over it Juve is not a powerhouse anymore, we are the strongest team in a second division, that's it. With some quality signings we can get back to our old selves but don't fool yourself we are far from it atm.

That's just ridiculous. So what if Catania is currently 5th? What's your point? Do you know anything about Catania anyway? Do you knkw how they are playing this season or are you diminishing them and their effort just because of their name? Yeah, we are Juventus, they are Catania, it's obvious who'll win. Woohoo.
catania will be relegation battlers next season, trust me! most/all newly promoted sides do crap in their 2nd/3rd season
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#73
This is for Vinny :D

Real Madrid's Guti in amazing Capello blow-up

tribalfooball.com - February 01, 2007

Real Madrid midfielder Guti had a blow-up with coach Fabio Capello in training yesterday.

AS says that Guti, after collecting a hefty knock to his ankle, marched off to the dressing room, ignoring Capello's demands he stay.

"You can't leave!" barked Capello. "I am the only one here who can decide when you can leave."

Guti kept walking.

"I have told you, you can't leave," continued Capello. "Come here! I am the one in charge."

Real assistant coach Toni Grande attempted to convince Guti to return, but the midfielder replied: "No, my ankle is hurting. I won't go back. I don't care what c*** the Italian is saying."

Capello also chose yesterday to again isolate David Beckham and Antonio Cassano from the rest of the first team squad.

Beckham, imparticular, was visibly upset by the decision. The midfielder has recovered from a slight injury and had hoped to be recalled for first team duty this week.
what a luck for the humanity that capello is only a football coach and not a political leader :D

but seriously this shows how profisional our players were under capello, I mean I would have kick assed him for such BS
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
#74
Old Boumsong is still injured, should be back in about 2 weeks +- I guess.
Hopefully Legro & Piccolo can keep him out for a bit longer. They look like the central defenders for the Rimini match. Here are their comments from Juventus.com
Legrottaglie: “I’m all set”

“I’m all set, finally. I had a few muscular problems last week but I feel great now, a little fluey, but great never the less”. After three months on the sidelines with a dislocated shoulder, Nicola Legrottaglie is back to full strength and ready to put his injury demons to bed. “The defence has been plagued with injuries so it’s a good time for me to be returning. After three months of inactivity it’s normal for there to be question marks over my fitness. Ninety minutes of game time is never the same as training, but I’m happy and relaxed right now and that will enable me to give my all on the field. I’m convinced I can do well”. Nicola hasn’t had the easiest of rides with the Bianconeri faithful but he’s hoping he can win their support with a good run of performances. “I’ve never had any problems with the fans, if anything it’s been the other way round. I didn’t make the best start to my career here but the experience has just made me stronger. It was great being with the fans in the stands [against Cesena] but I want to win their affection on the pitch, that’s where it really counts”.

The defender is hoping the shoulder injury he suffered on the Bianconeri’s away trip to Napoli in early November will be his last for quite some time. “I hope things go well and I’m able to enjoy some continuity. It’s important to play several games in a row, from a physical point of view as well”. Nicola is confident the team can return to top form in the coming weeks. “We’ve been working on our approach to games in training; we haven’t had the right mentality recently. When you begin the championship with a seventeen point penalty you’re naturally injected with the desire and inner strength to make up the deficit. When you catch up with the rest of the pack it’s hard not to ease off a little and that’s been our major problem. It won’t take much to get that right though and we’ll be going out there on Saturday with a different attitude”. The defender is well aware of the threat posed by Rimini. “They’re strong up front so it’s important we deny them room to manoeuvre. We’ll be chasing the three points at all costs but we also have to make sure we don’t give anything away at the back”. Players pay a high price for errors in defence and Nicola will be looking to maintain his focus from first to last. “You can play well for 89 minutes but it only takes one mistake to cost you a goal. As defenders we need to keep our concentration at all times as strikers only need one chance. We mustn’t give anything away cheaply”.

Legrottaglie has high hopes for the future. “We might not have the same crop of champions as we did last year but I’m convinced we can be winners all the same. Teams with big names don’t always win trophies, just look at Inter in recent years or Real Madrid. It’s having the right spirit and a tight group that counts; technique can be substituted by other qualities”. The defender has great respect for the work of Didier Deschamps since his arrival last summer. “The club deserves praise for the way it’s handled the transition from last year, it hasn’t been easy. The coaching staff have done a great job in getting the players focused on the immediate objectives, the boss in particular. He’s used dialogue to deal with many of the smaller problems and created an atmosphere of calm at the club”.
He couldn't resist that dig at inter! :p :D Cheers Legro! :pint:

Piccolo: "I’m getting better each day"

In and out of the treatment room for much of the year with a serious ankle injury, Felice Piccolo had a nightmare 2006. But this year things have been different as he looks to leave those troublesome times behind him. With three championship starts under his belt so far, he looks a likely candidate for a place on Saturday’s team sheet against Rimini: “Luckily I’m fine now – he told Juventus Channel – I’m getting better every single day. I’m really pleased, especially when I think back to a few months ago and the injury I had. This is a great moment for me”.

It’s a moment which has every chance of lasting, and not just if Deschamps employs him against Rimini. The coach knows he has a player he count on for the rest of the season as the Bianconeri home in on a return to Serie A: “My team mates were brilliant over the first half of the championship, making up the points deficit and taking the team to the top of the table. It’s a real satisfaction and yet another stimulus for us to continue along the same path. Is Serie B tough? I knew it was going be having already played in this division when I was at Como. And it’s also true that the teams we play treat games with Juventus as a matter of life or death”.

Next up, Rimini. There’s a good chance Piccolo will be paired in defence with Nicola Legrottaglie, himself returning from injury. “I would love to play alongside him, he’s a guy with tremendous experience. If we get the chance to play together, I don’t think we’ll have problems understanding one another. And this time Rimini won’t be springing a surprise like they did last time round. Serie B is new to us, but we now know the kind of attitude needed to play in this championship”.
They both indicate that they want to play more than just an odd game. If they can understand each other & play well together, then maybe Boum will have to sit on the bench!
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
#75
no crapello is a out of date manager who needs people managerial skills. under lippi we played as a unit it has always been our style
One of the problems, evident during Lippi's stint (especially in his last season) was that we were incredibly Nedved dependant. If Nedved was out of form, we were clueless in attack and midfield. That coupled with a non-functioning defence that season and you get some terrible play.

If anything, Capello made us less Nedved dependant. I remember how we often played better in Nedved's absence in 04/05.
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
#76
One of the problems, evident during Lippi's stint (especially in his last season) was that we were incredibly Nedved dependant. If Nedved was out of form, we were clueless in attack and midfield. That coupled with a non-functioning defence that season and you get some terrible play.

If anything, Capello made us less Nedved dependant. I remember how we often played better in Nedved's absence in 04/05.
Of course.With Lippi's 4-3-1-2 Nedved was the most important player of our team.He was the link between the midfield and the attack.
Under Capello with his conservative 4-4-2, we were attacking from the wings so Neddy was not that important.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
#77
(1)Because Serie B is not as easy as you think.

(2)So you don't expect us to win every game, but you think with the team we have we certainly should. :confused: So we are the strongest, as we both have agreed, so you expect us to win every game and not draw or loose against "weaker" opposition. (3)What kind of thinking is that? We were the strongest last season as well still we managed to loose a game and draw with much weaker teams like Chievo, Messina, Parma, Cagliari..., didn't we? (4)FFS get over it Juve is not a powerhouse anymore, we are the strongest team in a second division, that's it. With some quality signings we can get back to our old selves but don't fool yourself we are far from it atm.

(5)That's just ridiculous. So what if Catania is currently 5th? What's your point? Do you know anything about Catania anyway? Do you knkw how they are playing this season or are you diminishing them and their effort just because of their name? (6)Yeah, we are Juventus, they are Catania, it's obvious who'll win. Woohoo.
(1) I dont think serie B is easy, but i think we should be shining and i dont think that is as crazy as you seem to think it is, your real ambitious arent you?

(2) Right your confused let me help you out..... I dont expect us to end the season with a perfect record, not only would that be impressive, it would be impossible. But if you ask me before each game whether or not i expected a Juve win i would reply with the word 'yes' meaning that i expect nothing less than a win and a draw or loss will disappoint me. Are you following? clear enough for you?

(3) See above, its called ambition just to remind you, i dont settle for 2nd best because no one remembers the loser, if you dont mind losing then there is something wrong with you.

(4) Hmmm.... valid point, i regularly mentioned champions league success in my posts evaluating our poor showing in serie B

(5) They are not a good team, they are 5th and they have lost 7 games and drawn 6 and in my opinion we are better than them, you seem to think that we couldnt compete with them

(6) Woohoo :yawn:

If your happy with the way we are playing then fine be happy, enjoy yourself pretending that everything is rosy.

we are not playing well, we must perform better, we must pick up better results and the fans must push for bigger and better things, the sooner you wake up to reality the better.

although continue to live in your dreamworld if you trully think the performances/results have been satisfactory so far.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
#78
I seem to remember you being one of the biggest CRAPpello supporters on our forum when he was in charge, and I seemed to be right about everything I said about him then

dont believe me...then ask Ronaldo or any Real supporter
I was never a Crapello "supporter" i just never saw any reason to hate him. I still, 100%, stand behind the fact that he is a successful manager. His list of titles isn't exactly "Crap" :confused:

He may not be the best, but if he is so "crap" then why is he continuously appointed to the top managerial positions in europe?


by the way, the "always your opinion" comment was mainly directed to your statement about the club directors, not DD
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,998
#79
One of the problems, evident during Lippi's stint (especially in his last season) was that we were incredibly Nedved dependant. If Nedved was out of form, we were clueless in attack and midfield. That coupled with a non-functioning defence that season and you get some terrible play.

If anything, Capello made us less Nedved dependant. I remember how we often played better in Nedved's absence in 04/05.
i was talking more about lippi's earlier days
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
#80
@ BadassDevil, dont you ever sleep? You seem to always be here 24/7!!!!

Respect to the boy with no social life!

Joke! before you go all psycho on me. Then in that case i'll have to slap your ass.

Another Joke.:D
 

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