Juve last minute move.... (5 Viewers)

[Marc]

With VDV, I believe the issue is more injury related than finding consistent form, as Erik pointed out in the past. He has been half almost 1/3 of the time, I believe, and for any professional it is difficult to build consistent form being out so often.

I don't follow La Liga too much, but what I like about Robinho is his electrifying penetration when he has his A game on. It reminds me of young, smaller, Henry terrorizing teams down the opposition flanks in CL playing for Monaco. I think he is a risk worth taking.

D'Allesandro, is vastly overrated, I agree on this. He comes up with most use-less ball trickeries I have ever seen. I think he and Nelson Cuevas should have competition as to who can play best 1 vs 11.

I like Riqueleme mentioning. He is one player too good to turn down, and perhaps affordable at reasonable price. Imagine how many goals Trez will score with Riquelme spreading the ball.

I agree on VDV and Robinho. Personally I think Robinho cannot be consistant in a problematic team like Real Madrid and actually I would enjoy his failure at Madrid cause that brings him every now and then one step closer to us.

Abt. Riquelme, I think we should pass on him. That man chokes too much when big teams are in question. He is a leader in Villareal, but personally I think he would fail to meet the expectations in a big club like Juventus.

 

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[V]

Okay I may be in minority here but i regard these 2 players as highly, no, scratch that, grossly overrated. Robinho always seems to excel when he comes on as a sub and then you start him in the next game and he plays crap. Vdv is another 1, after impressing a bit when he came out of his funk and went to Hamburg, he has consistently failed to impress me at all when i see him play for Holland. You can add D'alessandro to this list. I just cannot see these guys thriving at all in serieA. I don't know whats going on with Riquelme at Villareal at this point in time, but we should be monitoring that situation, if he still the same Roman as he seems to be fighting against the world at the moment. Bojinov is another player whom I have not been overly impressed with either but i tend to agree that he has not been given a fair shake at Juve
I do like Martin Petrov of Athletico madrid , though he is injured at this point in time, he does have pace

Whenever I saw Robinho play this season I was really impressed. He's not all about tricks and flips anymore, he has developed a great view of the game and excellent passing. The way he controls the ball, his technique, pace, dribbling and the fact he has also gained quite a few pounds this season, in my eyes he is becoming a complete player. It's a shame Capello is his coach currently, he's stopping his rapid development.

As for VDV he has been crippled with injuries this term and whole HSV is underachieving, but from what I've heard whenever VDV was plaing HSV was looking much better than the tables are currently showing.

(1)Ok if you say so

(2)Thats plain and simply offensive, we could play the worst football on the planet and i'd still support Juve, there is absolutely no reason for you to make such a statement, if i wanted to support Barca i would do and i would be in a Barca forum, that comment is just childish and uncalled for, why cant you just simply say i understand that you want to see better performances but all i want to see is the result or something along those lines. Im not telling you to support another club so i would appreciate it if you could have the respect to not do so to me.

I don't know why you got offended by that, but if you did I apologise.

(3) It may sound a contradiction but it actually isnt, let me try again to explain it to you. I do not expect a perfect record but every game we play i expect a win, i never think that a team can beat us or hold us to a draw, when we played napoli, bologna and genoa away i expected us to win, this does not mean that i will kill myself if we lose, it just means i will be disappointed.

(4) and i expected us to win those games too

If all that is true I don't see the reason for making such a drama of some of our sub-par performances this term, after all we are top of the table.

(5) well i dont go to the stadium to see them play unlike you but yes i watch highlights and yes i know something about them, my reference to them was mainly a criticism of the whole of Serie A at the moment as a team like them really shouldnt hold such a high position and i am more than entitled to comment on them, as i am entitled to comment on anything i want to comment on.

Sure you are entitled to comment on everything, but fact is your post showed a clear disrespect for them based solely on their name. I don't go to their matches, nor do I watch them on TV, but at least I don't comment on where it is not appropriate for me to comment on, like you did. Give Catania a little respect, this is big for them.

(6) You havent upset me, i like a debate, but i've never heard anyone laugh saying woohoo before, it seemed like sarchasm to me, and it certainly was sarchasm.

It was sarcasm yes.

(7) I agree, and i would take results over performance any day of the week,

We agree here. Woohoo.

but i also would like both and if i think it is possible then i think it should happen.

Ok...if you say so.

(8) Hmm real mature comment, i am actually in reality, and if you dont honestly think that we should be looking good on the pitch then thats your opinion, i dont agree with it because i think we have a lot more technical ability than the whole of Serie B and this is undenyable, we have world cup winners, players that can make a difference in one second but something doesnt seem to be working atm, i dont know what it is or why its happening, it may be because of injury, but you cant deny that there is significant room for improvement and this is my main point, i am not happy with how things are going at the moment.

Again you're twisting my words. I never said I don't want us to look good on the pitch, but this is Serie-freaking-B and it's our current reality! You obviously don't understant the term, it's all about promotion and as long as we get it I won't be too bothered with the way we play. When we're back to being Champions of Italy then I will burden myself why are we playing so boringly and shitty. It's like whatever I write you don't even read. Check the last 2 pages and see what I feel on our current squad, players, their performances and why I feel we are struggling as we are.

 

[denco]

I agree on VDV and Robinho. Personally I think Robinho cannot be consistant in a problematic team like Real Madrid and actually I would enjoy his failure at Madrid cause that brings him every now and then one step closer to us.

Abt. Riquelme, I think we should pass on him. That man chokes too much when big teams are in question. He is a leader in Villareal, but personally I think he would fail to meet the expectations in a big club like Juventus.

I don't think that is his problem, i think like Veron, what some managers and perhaps fans do not realise is that if they are in the team, it has got to revolve around them. You have to continually play the ball to him, for him to produce his magic. At Barcelona, he was not the go to guy and so he was disappointing there. He did not really choke for Argentina and they are a big side because everything revolved around him. He and Veron are not the kind of players who would be part of a team set up and not be the focal point. Once you do that , then they become quite hopeless. As for VDV, if he is always injured and he always is , then there is no point as 1 Tudor in juve is enuff. Robinhoo has pace and to be fair Capello has tried to play him but he has not really proved to be a hit. His final ball is not always the best, he does some nice things but not enough for me to say wow, great stuff. Hard defences are not something i think he can penetrate consistently unlike guys like C. Ronaldo and Messi

 

[Mike-e-y]

I don't know why you got offended by that, but if you did I apologise.


If all that is true I don't see the reason for making such a drama of some of our sub-par performances this term, after all we are top of the table.


Sure you are entitled to comment on everything, but fact is your post showed a clear disrespect for them based solely on their name. I don't go to their matches, nor do I watch them on TV, but at least I don't comment on where it is not appropriate for me to comment on, like you did. Give Catania a little respect, this is big for them.


It was sarcasm yes.

We agree here. Woohoo.

Ok...if you say so.


Again you're twisting my words. I never said I don't want us to look good on the pitch, but this is Serie-freaking-B and it's our current reality! You obviously don't understant the term, it's all about promotion and as long as we get it I won't be too bothered with the way we play. When we're back to being Champions of Italy then I will burden myself why are we playing so boringly and shitty. It's like whatever I write you don't even read. Check the last 2 pages and see what I feel on our current squad, players, their performances and why I feel we are struggling as we are.

I got offended because im a juve fan and anything to the contrary is not an option.

I wasnt making a drama out of it, i just dont think its acceptable...

Catania do deserve respect my use of them as an example was not meant to be disrespectful but i had to chose a team to compare.

amazing, we agree on something

ok if i say so?? well if i think the team should be performing better i dont see why you have a problem with that, all i want to see is a few convincing performances

I feel also like your not listening to me so what does it matter, and i do actually realise that we are in serie b, but i dont see why that excuses us from playing good football.

And i also understand why you think were struggling and its a very valid opinion

misunderstandings happen, i think you understand what im trying to say, and i understand you, we can just agree to disagree with our philosophys

 

[Jun-hide]

I got offended because im a juve fan and anything to the contrary is not an option.

I wasnt making a drama out of it, i just dont think its acceptable...

Catania do deserve respect my use of them as an example was not meant to be disrespectful but i had to chose a team to compare.

amazing, we agree on something

ok if i say so?? well if i think the team should be performing better i dont see why you have a problem with that, all i want to see is a few convincing performances

I feel also like your not listening to me so what does it matter, and i do actually realise that we are in serie b, but i dont see why that excuses us from playing good football.

And i also understand why you think were struggling and its a very valid opinion

misunderstandings happen, i think you understand what im trying to say, and i understand you, we can just agree to disagree with our philosophys

I think Vlatko was merely pointing out we are still first in the league and in a pole position to be promoted at the end of season. I don't think he puts too much emphasis on how we destroy teams as long as we get things done at the end of day. After all, Vlatko never said it himself that he likes the way things are panning out.

Anyway, just looking at our recent results, we can do a lot better for sure.

 

[Mike-e-y]

I think Vlatko was merely pointing out we are still first in the league and in a pole position to be promoted at the end of season. I don't think he puts too much emphasis on how we destroy teams as long as we get things done at the end of day. After all, Vlatko never said it himself that he likes the way things are panning out.

Anyway, just looking at our recent results, we can do a lot better for sure.

Yeah i agree, i wasnt stressing about promotion, just performance i got the impression he was criticising me for expecting a decent performance in every game but looking back on it he prob wasnt, what does it matter anyway, we wont get to watch another game for the forseeable future, and i was looking forward to being reunited with rimini

 

[V]

I'm glad you two worked it out without me.

Anyway Jun pretty much summed up my opinion, which is kind of ironic coming from him, he doesn't sum things up usually.

 

[sateeh]

Well to win a title straight from comnig back would be quite a feat, I'm not holding my breath but I do feel it's possible, a serious challenge for the title anyway, CL spot is a must though.

I agree on not buying "instant succes" old players, but we still must buy a few quality players, like Robinho or VDV, which will ultimatelly convince Buffon, Treze and Camo to stay. That's the first step, fill up our squad depth and add players that can make a difference. As for them being younger players, I'm optimistic in that regard as DD seems like a coach who really appreciates young, upcoming players, except inexplicably Bojinov... :irritated

Although we shouldn't look for instant success, we also shouldn't buy players who r going to make us wait a while for adapting and future success.We will need to instantly be back in Europe at least and ofcourse the CL is the realistic target.

I mentioned it before and I think upfront we r going to need someone a bit older.So I actually like the mentions of Toni and Klose, only if Trezi leaves that is.
In the midfield I would be more prepared to get someone young as we would have neddy and i think he could play top football for one season.

 

[Mike-e-y]

I'm glad you two worked it out without me.

Anyway Jun pretty much summed up my opinion, which is kind of ironic coming from him, he doesn't sum things up usually.

lolol

 

[Adrian]

i think nedved will need some preserving next season, have him as the super sub replacing camo or the other creative midfielder in the team.

Robinho would be an interesting player to get. I wouldnt mind seeing him on the left attacking from midfield. He has great talent and could really make a difference attacking from midfield. And pace wouldnt go a stray in this side either. It is something the team lacks at the moment.

Sateeh, I agree with you on replacing trez and looking for players who are not totally inexperienced, however i think with juve's situation, taking some risks may be needed. This season DD found Paro, Marchisio and Palladino by giving them their chance.

Also, overall experience in the team will still remain with the likes of del piero, buffon, zanetti, camoranesi, tacchinardi etc...so if these players can lead on the field and help out the younger players it also helps, even if is indirectly related to the inexperienced players.

 

[Morra10]

With all our injuries, this will be a great opportunity to try out our new cb Belardi.

 

[sateeh]

i think nedved will need some preserving next season, have him as the super sub replacing camo or the other creative midfielder in the team.

Robinho would be an interesting player to get. I wouldnt mind seeing him on the left attacking from midfield. He has great talent and could really make a difference attacking from midfield. And pace wouldnt go a stray in this side either. It is something the team lacks at the moment.

Sateeh, I agree with you on replacing trez and looking for players who are not totally inexperienced, however i think with juve's situation, taking some risks may be needed. This season DD found Paro, Marchisio and Palladino by giving them their chance.

Also, overall experience in the team will still remain with the likes of del piero, buffon, zanetti, camoranesi, tacchinardi etc...so if these players can lead on the field and help out the younger players it also helps, even if is indirectly related to the inexperienced players.

I got my preservations about Robhino as hes still not a team player yet and doesn't look like changing his play.Hes got enormous talent but hes needs to change his approach to the game.

Ofcourse we would need to take some chances, but imo in that striking position there only few players that r young and could take that position ( Pazzini springs into my mind) but the price is just too high.

 

[Elvin]

wow Vlatko, I remember you saying "" when we mentioned him (Robinho)

 

[V]

wow Vlatko, I remember you saying "" when we mentioned him (Robinho)

Yeah I know, but like I said before, he really proved me wrong after seeing him in a few games.