Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (25 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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    Yeah. The Mercato seems really directionless and instead of targeting specific positions and players to build a team, we're more so looking for "opportunities" regardless of position.
    Has been like that always under marotta

    But he does try to look at opportunities in the right position
     

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    But this is what happens when you leave a purchase of this importance to the very last days of the mercato... If it falls through now, there really aren't any alternatives.
    :agree:

    I don't think it will though, I hope.

    Both pedulla and di Marzio report that they president is stalling. We will know by lunch time today.
     

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    Has been like that always under marotta

    But he does try to look at opportunities in the right position
    This mercato is the most random yet though.

    The problem is that this mercato we actually identified a pressing need. We sold our CAM, Vidal, even if it wasn't his ideal position. We made CL final with Vidal playing there. Now we have no CAM. At the very least we should have wrapped up a replacement for that position before agreeing to sell Vidal.

    It's all fine and dandy signing opportunities, but selling your CAM and not replacing him... and by doing so forcing your coach into a formation change is pretty absurd.

    Anyways. There are still 2 days left. I have hopes we'll sign someone good still, even if it looks pretty unlikely. And if not I sure as heck hope for the best this season and to be surprised by how good each one of our signings turns out.

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    :agree:

    I don't think it will though, I hope.

    Both pedulla and di Marzio report that they president is stalling. We will know by lunch time today.

    Thanks. I hope the same. Voice of reason Salvo. :D
     

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    Pedulla talks of Wolfsburg coming in because they have money now but that is illogical, they knew they would get this money and would've put forward an offer earlier IMO.
     
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    This mercato is the most random yet though.

    The problem is that this mercato we actually identified a pressing need. We sold our CAM, Vidal, even if it wasn't his ideal position. We made CL final with Vidal playing there. Now we have no CAM. At the very least we should have wrapped up a replacement for that position before agreeing to sell Vidal.

    It's all fine and dandy signing opportunities, but selling your CAM and not replacing him... and by doing so forcing your coach into a formation change is pretty absurd.

    Anyways. There are still 2 days left. I have hopes we'll sign someone good still, even if it looks pretty unlikely. And if not I sure as heck hope for the best this season and to be surprised by how good each one of our signings turns out.
    :boh:

    We sign excellent potential youth and good opportunities, always done.


    Sandro is a massive improvement for now and the future
    Dybala was the best youngster in serie a that wasent juve owned. He was hyped in europe, excellent that we got him
    Khedira was a good player to get , we knew Pirlo was gonna go
    fuck Zaza
    Cuadrado is excellent and allows various formations, adds tactical versatility
    Mandzukic doesnt replace tevez, but is a huge deal to compete with morata and allows morata to be played elsewhere if need to

    Rugani, nuff said



    We didnt bought players we cant use. We just didnt focus on the AM that much.
     

    CrimsonianKing

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    This mercato is the most random yet though.

    The problem is that this mercato we actually identified a pressing need. We sold our CAM, Vidal, even if it wasn't his ideal position. We made CL final with Vidal playing there. Now we have no CAM. At the very least we should have wrapped up a replacement for that position before agreeing to sell Vidal.

    It's all fine and dandy signing opportunities, but selling your CAM and not replacing him... and by doing so forcing your coach into a formation change is pretty absurd.

    Anyways. There are still 2 days left. I have hopes we'll sign someone good still, even if it looks pretty unlikely. And if not I sure as heck hope for the best this season and to be surprised by how good each one of our signings turns out.
    This is what I'm scared of; we fuck up by signing either no one for CAM or some mediocre fucker and suddenly we are forced to change a formation that took us to a CL Final and that our coach is very familiar with, having worked with it for years since way back in his Cagliari days. Maybe even before that.

    And in a worst case scenario we fail to retain the Scudetto and to qualify past CL group stage and poor Allegri takes all the blame. I'll be furious beyond recognition if that comes to happen.
     

    Rabbit

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    We all need to settle the fuck down and look at this with a clear mind.

    Draxler hasn't proven anything yet and has a terrible injury record.
    Witsel will be a much better player for us anyway.

    As long as we get Witsel and maybe that beast from Marseille and play 433 it's still a 10/10 Mercato
     

    Hust

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    even if WB hadn't sold KDB they surely would still have had the money to buy him easily, right? Seems strange that Draxler asked to be sold but then again it could have been to WB for all we know.

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    We all need to settle the fuck down and look at this with a clear mind.

    Draxler hasn't proven anything yet and has a terrible injury record.
    Witsel will be a much better player for us anyway.

    As long as we get Witsel and maybe that beast from Marseille and play 433 it's still a 10/10 Mercato
    I kinda like that Lemina guy :D
     

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    This is what I'm scared of; we $#@! up by signing either no one for CAM or some mediocre $#@!er and suddenly we are forced to change a formation that took us to a CL Final and that our coach is very familiar with, having worked with it for years since way back in his Cagliari days. Maybe even before that.

    And in a worst case scenario we fail to retain the Scudetto and to qualify past CL group stage and poor Allegri takes all the blame. I'll be furious beyond recognition if that comes to happen.
    :agree:

    The saddest part is as Baggio says this is all for Draxler... It's not like we are trying to sign Isco here.

    At the very least we should have kept Coman, so we at least have a decent ability to play 4-3-3 with either Morata or Coman on the left and Cuadrado or Dybala on the right. Signing Draxler would give us this ability too. Which is why in 1 signing we could have had tactical versatility to play both 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-3 with Draxler.

    Which makes the Zaza signing even more ridiculous. Imagine having the 18 mil from Zaza, and the funds from Coman's loan/sale. We could have offered 60-70 mil for Isco. Or turned Bayern's head with a 50mil offer for Götze. These players are for sale at the right price. We just spend our money on random unnecessary signings.

    The COman thing bothers me so much if we don't sign a top player. We don't need that money, so why sell him, if we're not going to use those funds to sign a top player? It's not like he'd be worth nothing next summer at 20 years old.
     

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    I doubt it. I just think they are waiting to finalise an incoming deal then they will let him go. The Wolfsburg thing to me is just lazy journalism. They put in an offer now that they have money, as if they didn't know they would have this money a while ago.
     
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    This is what I'm scared of; we $#@! up by signing either no one for CAM or some mediocre $#@!er and suddenly we are forced to change a formation that took us to a CL Final and that our coach is very familiar with, having worked with it for years since way back in his Cagliari days. Maybe even before that.

    And in a worst case scenario we fail to retain the Scudetto and to qualify past CL group stage and poor Allegri takes all the blame. I'll be furious beyond recognition if that comes to happen.
    Yep this is actually my biggest fear. I dont see us being able to improve with this 3-5-2 and think this year will be very poor if allegri doesnt get that player
     

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    I doubt it. I just think they are waiting to finalise an incoming deal then they will let him go. The Wolfsburg thing to me is just lazy journalism. They put in an offer now that they have money, as if they didn't know they would have this money a while ago.
    I'm not so much worried about Wolfsburg. It's possible, but seems unlikely. I'm more so worried that Schalke has taken him off the market entirely due to inability to find a suitable replacement with only 48 hours left.
     

    CrimsonianKing

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    Yep this is actually my biggest fear. I dont see us being able to improve with this 3-5-2 and think this year will be very poor if allegri doesnt get that player
    Allegri is a 4-3-1-2 coach. That's been his one and only since he's been coaching. It makes me cringe the thought of having to change it due to incompetence from our board. We're not prepared for 4-3-3 by a long shot. And well, Some will say we did well with 3-5-2 last season.

    I don't think anyone wants it to be completely extinct, it still can be useful here and there at specific moments of the season, more so because we have 3 defenders who played it for years and also for the addition of two players who can play wingbacks (Alex Sandro/Cuadrado).

    BUT it should not be our main, go-to formation. We should not force our coach to change the way he's coached his whole career, period. We need that fucking AM and if Draxler is the best we can do at this point, our management better fucking get him.
     
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    Allegri is a 4-3-1-2 coach. That's been his one and only since he's been coaching. It makes me cringe the thought of having to change it due to incompetence from our board. We're not prepared for 4-3-3 by a long shot. And well, Some will say we did well with 3-5-2 last season.

    I don't think anyone wants it to be completely extinct, it still can be useful here and there at specific moments of the season, more so because we have 3 defenders who played it for years and also for the addition of two players who can play wingbacks (Alex Sandro/Cuadrado).

    BUT it should not be our main, go-to formation. We should not force our coach to change the way he's coached his whole career, period. We need that fucking AM and if Draxler is the best we can do at this point, our management better fucking get him.
    Allegri's shitty milan beat barcelona 2-0 with a 4-3-3/4-3-2-1
     
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