Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (36 Viewers)

[DAiDEViL]

Sevilla money for Llorente brings Draxler to Juve. 10m to Juve, waiting for Spaniard ok.scared
Siqueira done deal today. Marotta now concentrating on ¾ista.

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[DeviAngel]

Schalke will reject even €30m to sell Juventus target Julian Draxler because there's no alternative targets in the mercato. [Bild]

 

[Zacheryah]

3-5-2 is disgusting.

it's the formation that knocked us out of CL agaisnt mighty galatasary.

what formation did juve use that made juve reach the cl? not the 3-5-2

how may teams use 3-5-2 and have won CL in the last 15 years? not a single one

We killed dortmund 0-3 with a 3-5-2 at their home turf.

"You need a TQ who is a playmaker"

Lmao

Classic Zach over complicating everything tenfold to try and justify his opinions.

Can't even be mad, just have to accept special people do special things.

The excellent part about your post, is that you are confirming that i am right, but you sadly dont possess the intelectual capacities for calculating 1+1=? so i'll do it for you.


4-3-1-2 is a formation. A formation is the way you position 11 players on the field.

The 4 are the defenders. 2 in the center and 1 on each side
The 3 are the central midfielders. They spread out a little and dont stand on top of each other
The 1 is the player behind the strikers
The 2 are the strikers.

Now, the player behind the strikers, is often referred to as "cam" or tq".
cam stands for central attacking midfielder
tq stands for trequartista
a tq is a more offensive cam, with even less defensive duties.

However, juventus has placed pereyra and vidal on that spot previously, and those players are cm's. central midfield, as explained above.

Now, pay attention, it now becomes more difficult.
You can put a player in this trequartista position, that is not a trequartista. Shocking and confusing for you, i agree.


This can be done by swapping the prime role of one of the strikers with this "player behind the strikers".
Normally, when the "player behind the strikers" is a actual trequartista, he, as it implies, is the playmaker, and one of the strikers, is a more creative or fast striker.

Opposite also works and is what juventus did. You can put a fast player behind the strikers, and have the ss beeing a true playmaker. This allows that "player behind the strikers", to be more freely moving around, and adds mobility to the play. This "fast "player behind the strikers, then plays in the tq/cam position, but isnt an actual tq/cam !!!!!!!!!!
Read this paragraph about 5 times. say 3 "lord's prayers", read it twice again, and proceed.


Now, when you have a fast "player behind the strikers", and none of both strikers beeing a playmaker, you have a problem. Wich is what my point was.



I hope i managed to make my explenation basic and easy enough so even a derp like you gets it

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

That's a lot of writing to gloss over the fact you said that we need a playmaker who is a playmaker

Evidently you think 1+1=3 and are willing to type an essay worth of bullshit to justify that. So instead of telling you why you and your idea that 3-5-2 is the only formation we really have the players for is wrong, i'll just sit back, relax and laugh at your weird obsession for using 1,000 words to say just about nothing.

No wonder you're a laughing stock.

 

[Zacheryah]

That's a lot of writing to gloss over the fact you said that we need a playmaker who is a playmaker

Evidently you think 1+1=3 and are willing to type an essay worth of bullshit to justify that. So instead of telling you why you and your idea that 3-5-2 is the only formation we really have the players for is wrong, i'll just sit back, relax and laugh at your weird obsession for using 1,000 words to say just about nothing.

No wonder you're a laughing stock.

I'm afraid you missed this key part

Read this paragraph about 5 times. say 3 "lord's prayers", read it twice again, and proceed.

please read it again, it perfectly explains it for a person like you

 

[DAiDEViL]

harsh times.

 

[Hust]

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I'm afraid you missed this key part



please read it again, it perfectly explains it for a person like you

I'm afraid you were a failed abortion, which explains your need to constantly write pages upon pages of bullshit to remind the world that you're sadly still out and about.

It's okay, we see you. Take a deep breath, and let the tactical flow, flow right through you.

 

[Zacheryah]

Seriously, how do i explain it so that derp understands it, help me out here.

we played a fast pressing player in the cam spot, cause we had a playmaking ss.

We dont have a playmaking ss now, so we need a playmaker in that cam spot instead of a fast pressing player



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I'm afraid you were a failed abortion, which explains your need to constantly write pages upon pages of bullshit to remind the world that you're sadly still out and about.

It's okay, we see you. Take a deep breath, and let the tactical flow, flow right through you.

You can remain derp and trow some silly insults, whilst neglecting the true fact, you just got fucking rekt.


Yeah son, rekt. You are wrong. As wrong as your face and anus wich were inverted at birth.
Suck it up. Accept you were a silly derp that was wrong and needs to step down when a decent human beeing explains it


Now stop posting here. Fuck off somewhere.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

A fast pressing player and a playmaking ss

Oh lawd, tell me. Is Lichtsteiner a box to box wing back or an inverted false #26?

 

[Osman]

You are just throwing out randomly descriptive words it seems like Zach.

One point to consider is Dybala is more creative passer then Tevez (despite latter being strong focus point) and Draxler would not be a pressing player, even if fast, and is alot more creative attacking solution then Pereyra and Vidal combined probably in that role. Tho in overall this will be a sofer team by far with Tevez and Vidal gone.


Its another matter tho who will take up Pirlo's type of responsibility.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Seriously, how do i explain it so that derp understands it, help me out here.

we played a fast pressing player in the cam spot, cause we had a playmaking ss.

We dont have a playmaking ss now, so we need a playmaker in that cam spot instead of a fast pressing player



WHAT KIND OF BLITHERING IDIOT DOESNT UNDERSTANDS SOMETHING SO SIMPLE

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You can remain derp and trow some silly insults, whilst neglecting the true fact, you just got fucking rekt.


Yeah son, rekt. You are wrong. As wrong as your face and anus wich were inverted at birth.
Suck it up. Accept you were a silly derp that was wrong and needs to step down when a decent human beeing explains it


Now stop posting here. Fuck off somewhere.

I'll Fuck off and nail ur mom with ma dick

Wheeeeeeeey rekt faggit, shove that up your freshly abused sphincter

 

[Zacheryah]

A fast pressing player and a playmaking ss

Oh lawd, tell me. Is Lichtsteiner a box to box wing back or an inverted false #26?

I explained it perfectly well. To a level of reading you can follow. So read it. No more silly remarks. Just read it. Read and accept the truth. Your pathetic trolling attempt failed as the answer is very logical


Just go away. You have no value here.

 

[Hust]

Take it this thread isn't heavily moderated

 

[Lion]

We killed dortmund 0-3 with a 3-5-2 at their home turf.

ah ok. so because we won one match against an opponent, that makes it ok?

okay, let's assume that this argument of yours is valid, you have provided one match as proof.

here, i will provide you with 8 matches where 3-5-2 not only didnt work, but was flat out embarassing

2 matches against bayern
1 match against kobenhavn
2 matches against gala
1 match against real madrid
1 match against athletico
1 match against olymiacos


8 matches is greater than your 1 match as proof. so i win this argument once and for all.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yes but in those 8 matches if our playmaking ss connected with our fast pressing false sweeper we would have won 7 of them at least.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Take it this thread isn't heavily moderated

currently more entertaining than the Calais immigrants thread.
@Völler @Enron

 

[Zacheryah]

You are just throwing out randomly descriptive words it seems like Zach.

One point to consider is Dybala is more creative passer then Tevez (despite latter being strong focus point) and Draxler would not be a pressing player, even if fast, and is alot more creative attacking solution then Pereyra and Vidal combined probably in that role.


Its another matter tho who will take up Pirlo's type of responsibility.

The point is about ball retention. In a 4-3-1-2 you need one of those 3 offensive players to be able to retain and distribute the ball.

Last season's juve had one of the strikers(tevez) retain the ball. Pereyra is a good player, but doesnt do that. He likes to run into spaces and receive the ball. Your ball retaining player needs to ask the ball to keep and distribute it.
Vidal has better ball retention then pereyra, but lacks his penetration. he's still far of a solid option up front


Thing is, when you got a static poacher (mandzukic), a fast forward (morata), and a creative ss that wants the ball into space (dyabala), and a fast cm that also runs into spaces but doesnt retain the ball..


....you lack a player to do it.


Wich is why i'm saying, behind the strikers we need an actual playmaker, who's main thing is to ask for the ball in the center area and distribute it, not run away from the ball to receive it into space.

 

[Lion]

Schalke will reject even €30m to sell Juventus target Julian Draxler because there's no alternative targets in the mercato. [Bild]

lord @Nostradamus was right after all.

yo nostra, you have any predictions for lottery numbers? i need 7 numbers. between 1 and 49

 

[Völler]

I'll Fuck off and nail ur mom with ma dick

Wheeeeeeeey rekt faggit, shove that up your freshly abused sphincter

X is gonna have a field day.