Juan Cuadrado (55 Viewers)

[DutchJuventino]

Better wingers for plusminus 20m - 30m
- Berardi (sassuolo)
- Rodrigo (?) (Valencia)
- Bellarabi (Leverkusen)
- Töre (Besiktas)
- Lamela (Tottenham)

Even Pepe is better

 

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[MikeM]

I think the best spot for Cuadrado for the TEAM'S sake is on the left wing in a 4-3-3.

Look, Italian defences are not stupid. They give Cuadrado avenues to pass them but they're in non dangerous areas. When we see Cuadrado on the right wing beating players, it's because these defenders are ok with him beating them to the outside because he's shown his whole career that he's not dangerous putting in crosses.

But on the left it's different. He's still going to get doubled up and they're definitely going to show him the outside. But this is where Evra or Sandro come in. They will have so much space if Cuadrado can cut inside and play balls back outside for them.

This is Cuadrado's best scenario for me. In the 3-5-2 as a RWB he's fine because he hustles. But offensively there's no one behind him to overlap since he's the widest player in the formation. Against Palermo there were a couple moves where Sturaro had space in support. But this is obviously so sub-optimal, to have Sturaro benefiting from the space.

As a RW in the 4-3-3 he's reluctant to use his teammates on the outside because he wants to occupy that area himself. Always drifting into that space because it's the easiest area to find space. Always cutting outside because he's one-footed.

But I don't see him ever getting the chance at LW in a 4-3-3 so I think he's a RWB for now. Or a SS when we are countering late in the match. Allegri gave him a shot in the 4-3-3 but it was a failure. On a loan he's fine. In a vacuum, is his talent worth 20M? Probably. Is he worth 20M to the team? No.

 

[.zero]

I think the best spot for Cuadrado for the TEAM'S sake is on the left wing in a 4-3-3.

Look, Italian defences are not stupid. They give Cuadrado avenues to pass them but they're in non dangerous areas. When we see Cuadrado on the right wing beating players, it's because these defenders are ok with him beating them to the outside because he's shown his whole career that he's not dangerous putting in crosses.

But on the left it's different. He's still going to get doubled up and they're definitely going to show him the outside. But this is where Evra or Sandro come in. They will have so much space if Cuadrado can cut inside and play balls back outside for them.

This is Cuadrado's best scenario for me. In the 3-5-2 as a RWB he's fine because he hustles. But offensively there's no one behind him to overlap since he's the widest player in the formation. Against Palermo there were a couple moves where Sturaro had space in support. But this is obviously so sub-optimal, to have Sturaro benefiting from the space.

As a RW in the 4-3-3 he's reluctant to use his teammates on the outside because he wants to occupy that area himself. Always drifting into that space because it's the easiest area to find space. Always cutting outside because he's one-footed.

But I don't see him ever getting the chance at LW in a 4-3-3 so I think he's a RWB for now. Or a SS when we are countering late in the match. Allegri gave him a shot in the 4-3-3 but it was a failure. On a loan he's fine. In a vacuum, is his talent worth 20M? Probably. Is he worth 20M to the team? No.

 

[Akshen]

I really like that we have new option on the wing, something different from not creative and defensive Licht. It allows us to concetrate on attack more when needed, plus there is one more guy that the opponents defense has to watch carefully so they wont just aim for Dybala and Pogba. He will definitly not be the key player of this team, but he can be really useful and with inform Mandzukic im pretty sure its only a matter of time when he starts collecting assists.

 

[duranfj]

What's muy problem with him? Hold when he needs to touch. Touch when he needs to hold. Shot when he needs to cross. Cross when he needs to shot. He almost always takes the worst choice.

I think he could be better but Imo we have three positions to fill before. LB, CM and AM... If we have money to spare, lets but him cheap

 

[Hydde]

I think the best spot for Cuadrado for the TEAM'S sake is on the left wing in a 4-3-3.

Look, Italian defences are not stupid. They give Cuadrado avenues to pass them but they're in non dangerous areas. When we see Cuadrado on the right wing beating players, it's because these defenders are ok with him beating them to the outside because he's shown his whole career that he's not dangerous putting in crosses.

But on the left it's different. He's still going to get doubled up and they're definitely going to show him the outside. But this is where Evra or Sandro come in. They will have so much space if Cuadrado can cut inside and play balls back outside for them.

This is Cuadrado's best scenario for me. In the 3-5-2 as a RWB he's fine because he hustles. But offensively there's no one behind him to overlap since he's the widest player in the formation. Against Palermo there were a couple moves where Sturaro had space in support. But this is obviously so sub-optimal, to have Sturaro benefiting from the space.

As a RW in the 4-3-3 he's reluctant to use his teammates on the outside because he wants to occupy that area himself. Always drifting into that space because it's the easiest area to find space. Always cutting outside because he's one-footed.

But I don't see him ever getting the chance at LW in a 4-3-3 so I think he's a RWB for now. Or a SS when we are countering late in the match. Allegri gave him a shot in the 4-3-3 but it was a failure. On a loan he's fine. In a vacuum, is his talent worth 20M? Probably. Is he worth 20M to the team? No.

I said this a couple weeks ago.

That way everyone bennefits. WHy?, because if we buy both cuadrado and berardi...we can field berardi in his natural position and using Morata/mandz/Zaza a CF....while using cuadrado as a defender magnet and filler attacker on the left wing. AFAIK he is right footed, so he can cut in and shoot with his desired foot.

In case we want to sub berardi, we can use dybala who also can cut in with his left foot.

This formation is highly unlikely since allegri dont like dybala on the wing...but maybe he can change his mind if we get berardi

 

[DAiDEViL]

since he can't shoot well no matter what foot he is using,
cutting in from the left is even worse than having him cross from the right.

 

[Hydde]

I dont think he cant be worse than now. At least we would benefit from having a reall attacking thread in berardi on the other wing. I mean, he cant be worse than now by cutting in and shooting with his preferred foot right?. His crosses will be even worse tho

 

[zizinho]

His crosses arent that bad

 

[MikeM]

since he can't shoot well no matter what foot he is using,
cutting in from the left is even worse than having him cross from the right.

The point is not for him to shoot, it's to create space for Evra and Sandro who actually can cross.

 

[DAiDEViL]

cuadrado CAN cross with his right foot.

so you want cuadrado on the left just to run around?

 

[MikeM]

forget it.

 

[DAiDEViL]

nice talking to you.

 

[Hydde]

cuadrado CAN cross with his right foot.

so you want cuadrado on the left just to run around?

Ideally, that for not to occupy the RW of berardi... or simply out of Juventus.

But he for sure can do more than running around..he can continue beating peeps all day long and create spaces for others no problem. He is not inept, but he cannot be our offensive main man on the wings, Berardi can.

We can try to find a real RWB if we are planing to play 352.

 

[DAiDEViL]

got it

 

[juve103423]

It quickly became popular bashing Cuadrado.. He was our only thread the first couple of games and won the game vs Sevilla all by himself. People quickly forget.
Lets see. Im quite sure he will play a pivotal role for our side this season. He has all the qualities. Qualities we have missed. And yes, he CAN shoot and cross. Pogba can also shoot even if he rocketed a few out of the stadio as of late.

 

[JuveID]

It's harder when fans already hate the player.

 

[duranfj]

He needs to improve a lot but he has the quality and that's the important.. About his behaviour and performance, time tells us

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

It quickly became popular bashing Cuadrado.. He was our only thread the first couple of games and won the game vs Sevilla all by himself. People quickly forget.
Lets see. Im quite sure he will play a pivotal role for our side this season. He has all the qualities. Qualities we have missed. And yes, he CAN shoot and cross. Pogba can also shoot even if he rocketed a few out of the stadio as of late.

Fans of sports teams always need to find a scapegoat. The past month it's been Cuadrado, before that Mandzukic.

 

[Hydde]

It quickly became popular bashing Cuadrado.. He was our only thread the first couple of games and won the game vs Sevilla all by himself. People quickly forget.
Lets see. Im quite sure he will play a pivotal role for our side this season. He has all the qualities. Qualities we have missed. And yes, he CAN shoot and cross. Pogba can also shoot even if he rocketed a few out of the stadio as of late.

I dont hate him tbh.. in fact i really like his directness.
But think the issue was that we were flashed by him in the first games because we havanet had a man beater since camoranesi... but is difficult not to get concerned by his lack of end product.

B_aus will try to make it look like a fan agenda to bash the guy for no reason, but it clearly isnt that. Just look at his output in the last games he has played. IM not inventing anything and allegri has dropped him, rightly so.