Jorge Martínez (9 Viewers)

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I wanted to hear what the "Juventus doesn't waste money on players" guys have to say about this dude? 11m, are you freaking kidding me. Daylight robbery!

Spend 11m on trash rather than 30m on a proven class player.

 

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[JuveJay]

Obviously Martinez turned out a big waste of money, he's the worst transfer by miles.

Still, the fee at the time is set, you either pay it or look elsewhere. What comes after that dictates whether it was a good transfer or not. This one obviously wasn't, but it doesn't detract from Martinez's market value at the time.

 

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Obviously Martinez turned out a big waste of money, he's the worst transfer by miles.

Still, the fee at the time is set, you either pay it or look elsewhere. What comes after that dictates whether it was a good transfer or not. This one obviously wasn't, but it doesn't detract from Martinez's market value at the time.

If we are willing to take 12m dollar punts on players, then surely we can buy someone proven for 20-30m once every 3 years.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

A proper police investigation is needed here.

 

[Cronios]

Um, so Marotta was wrong to sign him for €12m in the first place?

i called that even before it happened, but i was brutally attacked and my counter arguments mocked. Esp about rather keeping Giovinco instead...
So all i could do was wait and let history proove me right or wrong...

But now, my haters and Marotta's apologist just ignore this... we lost a crapload of money and a few seasons without a decent starter there, only to return where we started and ppl still defend Marotta, despite the money and obvious proof of incompetence...

 

[JuveJay]

If we are willing to take 12m dollar punts on players, then surely we can buy someone proven for 20-30m once every 3 years.

How are these two things linked?

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i called that even before it happened, but i was brutally attacked and my counter arguments mocked.

But you've just used an article that says Martinez was valued at €15m to back up your claim that other clubs should now be interested, but on the other hand say paying €12m was too much?

 

[Cronios]

But you've just used an article that says Martinez was valued at €15m to back up your claim that other clubs should now be interested, but on the other hand say paying €12m was too much?

The article, a few lines from this thread opener, was a sarcastic touch, of course to outline the fact, that we have bought the hype for a mediocre player.
And when someone express his opinion and looks beyond the hype, he is attacked for all the wrong reasons...

Pll try to deny me the fact of expressing my criticism, by trying to manipulate the mods to ban, try to annoy and bully me.
Just for having me opinion and expressing it, just for critising what i believe to be the wrong choice, just for carng about my beloved FC and dont want to it struggle...

There where no opportunity targets for left side midfielders, we had a decent one that we underrated, we couldnt find a decent due to our TD incompetence and we overpaid for a no one, all the while selling off half of the decent one we own.
I was justified to criticise Marotta for that and since then i am attacked for that, despite the fact that this season proves that i was right all along...

 

[ZoSo]

Are you saying that no other team has such an incompetent transfer director as we have?

Are you saying that:
"Since joining Calcio Catania, Martinez has been a very influential part of the team and is one of Catania's most highly rated players and is valued at about €15 million. He has been heavily linked to a high profile transfer to several European giants, following his impressive season with Catania."
all those teams have forgotten him? Are you saying that all those members who jumped to defend Marotta when i criticized them were wrong??

Hmm, it seems that history has once again proved me right...

BZZZZ try again, you didn't answer my question.

 

[Cronios]

BZZZZ try again, you didn't answer my question.

you didnt answer mine either...
and for the record i have no interest to quarell with him, so drop the irony...

 

[ZoSo]

you didnt answer mine either...
and for the record i have no interest to quarell with him, so drop the irony...

Because you didn't answer mine.

Obviously you can't answer because you know you're wrong but you are too arrogant or too much of a troll to admit you are wrong.

 

[Cronios]

Because you didn't answer mine.

Obviously you can't answer because you know you're wrong but you are too arrogant or too much of a troll to admit you are wrong.

Was i wrong at saying that we should rather keep Giovinco than signing him?
Was i wrong to say that we gave too much for someone who is nearly worthless?

C mon stop all this hate, i was blatanly right here and one of my points were that he was a waste of time and resources, a transfer made just for the shake of it. A proof of Marotta's incompetence.
By admitting that noone would invest on him, you are just making my point tenfolds...


Have your pick, was Marotta wrong to pay that much for him, or he was right but is he too incompetent to recover even half of it now?
Whatever you choose, you will return in my initial point, stop trying so desperate to proove me wrong, when i am so right.


And chill with all that hate, DP is coming, cheer up!

 

[ZoSo]

Still didn't answer the question.

 

[JuveJay]

Pll try to deny me the fact of expressing my criticism, by trying to manipulate the mods to ban, try to annoy and bully me.

I am a mod, so that would be fairly pointless for me to do. I don't see how you think me contesting your point as hypocritical is 'bullying', but there you go.

 

[ZoSo]

I am a mod, so that would be fairly pointless for me to do. I don't see how you think me contesting your point as hypocritical is 'bullying', but there you go.

Was i wrong at saying that we should rather keep Giovinco than signing him?
Was i wrong to say that we gave too much for someone who is nearly worthless?

C mon stop all this hate, i was blatanly right here and one of my points were that he was a waste of time and resources, a transfer made just for the shake of it. A proof of Marotta's incompetence.
By admitting that noone would invest on him, you are just making my point tenfolds...


Have your pick, was Marotta wrong to pay that much for him, or he was right but is he too incompetent to recover even half of it now?
Whatever you choose, you will return in my initial point, stop trying so desperate to proove me wrong, when i am so right.


And chill with all that hate, DP is coming, cheer up!

Does trolling get an infraction? Because if it does this should be the example post.

 

[Cronios]

Does trolling get an infraction? Because if it does this should be the example post.

you should be handed one for keep trying to frame me and keep flame baiting me
i did not mention you and yet you again start with a mockery one line post:

So tell me great transfer master, which team is willing to buy him right now?

Clearly, it is you the one trolling! I speak about Marotta and you speak about me!

i made a lot of fair points for you to understand my stance completely and none of them was aiming to attack you, just make my stance and defend my self from my haters accusses. But your only intention is to fight with me...

You are so desperate to silence me... you keep trying to frame me and have a mod punish me for having my opinion, when the only thing you ought to do is ignore me and all the while you are the one trolling with personal attacks and zero arguments on the matter at hand.

This is abusive, as i see you and other members are trying this systematically, this is foul play and should be moderated!

 

[Amer]

I hope Cluj at least paid for his flight to Romania.

 

[ZoSo]

you should be handed one for keep trying to frame me and keep flame baiting me
i did not mention you and yet you again start with a mockery one line post:


Clearly, it is you the one trolling! I speak about Marotta and you speak about me!

i made a lot of fair points for you to understand my stance completely and none of them was aiming to attack you, just make my stance and defend my self from my haters accusses. But your only intention is to fight with me...
Yet you are so desperate to silence me... you keep trying to frame me and have a mod punish me for having my opinion, when the only thing you ought to do is ignore me.

This is abusive, as i see you and other members are trying this systematically, this is foul play and should be moderated!

The master troll at his best.

How about instead of crying answer my question. Which teams right now would pay for Martinez? I'll just answer it. None, because he's cack, yet you expect Marotta to get €5m+ for him.

 

[LowLife]

Cron was right about Martinez and Giovinco. After criticizing every transfer move Marotta made it's easy to get one or two right. It's business sometimes you lose sometimes you win. Look at Pirlo and Barzagli.

 

[Cronios]

I am a mod, so that would be fairly pointless for me to do. I don't see how you think me contesting your point as hypocritical is 'bullying', but there you go.

Not you Jay, not this time
I was talking to you so that others can see that!
And please do debade with me, you are one of my favourite "haters", because i can reason with you,
unlike the ones posting those racist animated gifs with black boys dancing...

And seriously, as a mod, do not be afraid to express your opinion, have your say, we lost many great posters this way after they got the mod mantle, keep it up.

The master troll at his best.

How about instead of crying answer my question. Which teams right now would pay for Martinez? I'll just answer it. None, because he's cack, yet you expect Marotta to get €5m+ for him.

Althought someone would, i accept your answer, none!
So Marotta is yet again fully responsible for the loss of more millions.
That was my point anyway and whats worse is that this is not the first time, nor the last one...

I hope Cluj at least paid for his flight to Romania.

And i was hoping they would pay his salary, do we have anything concrete about that?

 

[Cronios]

Cron was right about Martinez and Giovinco. After criticizing every transfer move Marotta made it's easy to get one or two right. It's business sometimes you lose sometimes you win. Look at Pirlo and Barzagli.

Lowlife (what a nick) stop trying to delude my point here.
I did not criticised every transfer move Marotta made, this is only smth my haters claim
and i did not criticise them for the same reasons (ex saying that paying 11mil to get Giovinco's half back was a mistake) and with the same ferocity.
It is one thing to have a so and so opinion about a transfer and another thing to reject it!
This very transfer prooves a lot about Marotta's competitivity. It was one of my main arguments, not a random one...