John Elkann (7 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

this guy is the real problem why we do not sign world class player
but people always blame marotta

people don't get it, people don't get that it's not about the transfer's fees but about the salaries, we need bigger budget to sign bigger players with giving them fat contracts while all we can get from exor is fucking loan

 

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[Zacheryah]

The only debatable thing at this moment is the shirtsponsership, but thats not going to allow "fat wages"

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

The only debatable thing at this moment is the shirtsponsership, but thats not going to allow "fat wages"

Shirt, stadium name, facilities names, Man Utd has 29 sponsorship deals including rights on the name of their training fucking grounds, what juventus has? Goodyear, adidas, jeep and samsung? wow

 

[Zacheryah]

Shirt, i agree on. We have a louzy deal.

Stadium name, we sold that for x years, and you offcourse know this.


Juventus has plenty of sponsers and partners, but this isnt England. And, its not Elkann's duty, its Agnelli's duty to find more or better sponsers for everything.
And last time i checked he wasent doing too bad

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

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Shirt, i agree on. We have a louzy deal.

Stadium name, we sold that for x years, and you offcourse know this.


Juventus has plenty of sponsers and partners, but this isnt England. And, its not Elkann's duty, its Agnelli's duty to find more or better sponsers for everything.
And last time i checked he wasent doing too bad

To find more sponsors you should show good results on field on all arenas for extended period of time, to show better results on field extended period of time you should sign quality players, to sign quality players you should have big budget because it's not only about transfer fees but also about the wages

 

[Zacheryah]

Thats nice, they are known for this in the EPL. (and Bayern).

We are working on that aspect. I dont see how its Elkann's fault that we dont have more deals, considering Agnelli's task to find those.

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To find more sponsors you should show good results on field on all arenas for extended period of time, to show better results on field extended period of time you should sign quality players, to sign quality players you should have big budget because it's not only about transfer fees but also about the wages

yeah, and how exactly is Exor/Elkan at fault of us not having a bigger budget aside from the shirt sponsership ?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

our run in CL lone gave us ~100m + 32 from adidas + tv money, yes we've spent ~80m already but also we sold some players for ~60m, and we have around 15-20m more because this is how much we've offered for Draxler, so basically we need only around 20m more to sign quality AM and offer him fat wages

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Thats nice, they are known for this in the EPL. (and Bayern).

We are working on that aspect. I dont see how its Elkann's fault that we dont have more deals, considering Agnelli's task to find those.

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yeah, and how exactly is Exor/Elkan at fault of us not having a bigger budget aside from the shirt sponsership ?

Before Bayern blew up with all that sponsorship deals and stadium deal in the middle of 00s, it were their shareholders who invested money in team without any doubt and they've made their team who they are today, Bayern is member-owned club, 225,000 members own 82% of the club, while Juventus is owned buy F1 lover who doesn't care about the club at all, basically it's Adidas + Allianz + Audi + members = bayern

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Allianze invested 110m in Bayern, why nobody wants to invest in Juventus, even Exor? Because we are unprofitable club, that's why

 

[Zacheryah]

There are so many wrong things about that post, that i cant find where to begin. So i wont.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

There are so many wrong things about that post, that i cant find where to begin. So i wont.

Nothing is wrong with it, Bayern is owned by members aka shareholders

 

[Zacheryah]

Good for them. Wasnt talking about that.

 

[Osman]

There are so many wrong things about that post, that i cant find where to begin. So i wont.

You.Are.Attempting.To.Communicate.With.A.CIA.Bot.

 

[JuveID]

our run in CL lone gave us ~100m + 32 from adidas + tv money, yes we've spent ~80m already but also we sold some players for ~60m, and we have around 15-20m more because this is how much we've offered for Draxler, so basically we need only around 20m more to sign quality AM and offer him fat wages

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Before Bayern blew up with all that sponsorship deals and stadium deal in the middle of 00s, it were their shareholders who invested money in team without any doubt and they've made their team who they are today, Bayern is member-owned club, 225,000 members own 82% of the club, while Juventus is owned buy F1 lover who doesn't care about the club at all, basically it's Adidas + Allianz + Audi + members = bayern

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Allianze invested 110m in Bayern, why nobody wants to invest in Juventus, even Exor? Because we are unprofitable club, that's why

I want to know more about this one.
But italy and german is not comparable.

 

[Klin]

this guy is the real problem why we do not sign world class player
but people always blame marotta

I was waiting for this post. You never disappoint.

 

[Valerio.]

our run in CL lone gave us ~100m + 32 from adidas + tv money, yes we've spent ~80m already but also we sold some players for ~60m, and we have around 15-20m more because this is how much we've offered for Draxler, so basically we need only around 20m more to sign quality AM and offer him fat wages

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Before Bayern blew up with all that sponsorship deals and stadium deal in the middle of 00s, it were their shareholders who invested money in team without any doubt and they've made their team who they are today, Bayern is member-owned club, 225,000 members own 82% of the club, while Juventus is owned buy F1 lover who doesn't care about the club at all, basically it's Adidas + Allianz + Audi + members = bayern

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Allianze invested 110m in Bayern, why nobody wants to invest in Juventus, even Exor? Because we are unprofitable club, that's why

OUT:

Ogbonna 11+1bonus 1,2m net wage
Tevez 6,5m 4,5m net wage + bonus
Vidal 37 + 3bonus 4m net wage
Berardi 10m // // paid by Sassuolo
Sorensen 2m // // paid by another team
Goldaniga 2m // //
Pirlo 0 3,8m net wage
Pepe 0 1,3m net wage
Storari 0 1m net wage
Matri 0 1,3m net wage x 6months
(Llorente 10m 3,5m+ bonus net wage)
(Isla 10m 0,8m net wage)

68,5 (92,5 with bonus and Llorente+Isla) wages freed : 17,1 net (21,4 with Llorente and Isla gone coudn't count bonus cause i dunno them)

IN:
Dybala 32m+8bonus 2,2m net wage
Mandzukic 19m 3,5m net wage
Zaza 18m 0,7m net wage
Khedira 0m 4m net wage
Neto 0m 2m net wage
Pereyra 14m // // already here
Brignoli 1,75m // // 0,1m
Thiam 1,40m // // 0.1m
Tello 1,20m // // 0.1m
Anacoura 0,75m // // 0,1m

74,1m (88,1 with Pereyra Bonus for Dybala to be paid in the years to come) Wages up: 12,8m

To sum it up if we sell Llorente and Isla for cheap price we'd gain more than what we spent and freed 8,6m in net wages.
We can afford a top player and his wage.
Bad part of our mercato all the money splashed for Zaza really not needed and if you ask both Zaza+Mandzukic. I would have gone for someone stronger instead of the 2.

now the 8,6m in wages freed are waiting if we need 2 or 3 players. I'd go for two as we're packed with midfielders. I'd go all in for the AM and LB counting on Asamoah come back by January 2016 (he'll start to train in 3 weeks let's say 3month to go back being fit).

 

[Nzoric]

I cant believe Osman actually tried so hard with PUS.

 

[mondo1]

lol at this thread

The only question now is
Where do I get this shirt ???

 

[Xperd]

Proud to be supporting a club owned by Elkann and the Agnelli family

 

[icemaη]

Proud to be supporting a club owned by Elkann and the Agnelli family

RUS wants us to be owned by RUSkamovic and end up like Chelsea or even better Arsenal

 

[GordoDeCentral]

lol at this thread

The only question now is
Where do I get this shirt ???

Well first id suggest you post that pic in lapos thread

 

[only-juve]

more money for what? We've already spent more than 70m on signings this season.
Its just that we have a sporting director who year after year likes to buy a lot of players for the available money instead of concentrating on spending big on 1 or 2.

Said this a million time before. The owners of the club have done really well so far since the calciopoli.

In fact, I believe we've actually spent on average from 2007 till now "more than" what we've spent during our best days in the late 90's (don't know the real numbers but that's a my own guess).

Problem is, how did we spend that money.