Italy = anti islam (7 Viewers)

[Layce Erayce]

Not really true. You see the laws we have know are mostly based on what every religion is based on: the "human" distinction between good and evil. Although not every person has that, most of us have. That's a profound difference with religion and law has little or nothing to do with christianity for example. In moral you have certain ground rules that are the same for most people, I would go with those ground rules to establish a society, and actually that's what has already been done. Now religion is a whole different story.


EDIT: Jesus and Stalin have caused just as many deaths Hitler and Mohammed. And yes, I did mix those up intentionally.

You need to rephrase that. All I can comprehend is that you have a delusional hate for religion because of certain people who misuse and misinterpret it. Does that mean you hate knives too, since knives have been used to kill or wound so many people?

 

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[findinganewnick]

You need to rephrase that. All I can comprehend is that you have a delusional hate for religion because of certain people who misuse and misinterpret it. Does that mean you hate knives too, since knives have been used to kill or wound so many people?

The pros of knives overrule the cons.

Where are the pros of religion?

 

[3pac]

The pros of knives overrule the cons.

Where are the pros of religion?

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[Layce Erayce]

The pros of knives overrule the cons.

Where are the pros of religion?

Glad your on the same page. Here's a shocker for you: the pros of knives do NOT overrule the cons. They even each other out. In fact, the pros and cons DONT EVEN MATTER. All that matters is how you use it. If you use it for its intended purpose and you wield it well, does anybody really give a fuck about what the cons are?

I hope the coin dropped.

 

[Rami]

The core of any religious belief is moral. Every one has their own moral judgement and that's what we should stick to. Mohammed and the evangelists are no more than pure criminials in my eyes, although that's definitely not what they wanted to be. Look at what people have been doing since the beginning of time thanks to religion. And now people are bashing me, because I spit on the beliefs of christians, jews and muslims. My, my, I'm the intolerant one here? My beliefs aren't the ones who have been slaughtering thousands of people. Please burn those moral guides you speak of.

Seriously, how much more time will we need to realise this? We're a modern and advanced society but still need those books? We have come to the conclusion a gazillion times that we were fighting silly wars over it, yet we still haven't abolished them? You lot can be as stupid as you want, but I, for one, think it's not sensible and irresponsible to go on and read those books as moral guides.

What is it really that makes people such dumb motherfvckers. I'm sure Rami is never going to kill a man over a religious discussion, but millions out there would. So I don't understandwhy religion is still legal. Once again I don't mean believing in God, but believing in books.

I am feeling stupid qouting a banned member, but millions? That just shows how this banned member doens't really know what he is talking about, he made up his mind about the issue, waxed his ears, and decided to take the easy way out, make religion illegal! Does he know how absurd that sounds? Ok lets say hypothetically what he is saying is true? Does he honestly think his solution could ever be implemented? If he does then I guess he is out of his mind! Abolishing religion is in fact collides with all the ideals, human rights, and human nature. Guess what? he is also guilty since he has been offensive and agressive towards most of us when it comes to religion, but "aethism" (sp?) is a religion also in a sense. Guess what also? his ridicilous solution would cause more lives than all the alleged "catasrophies" caused by religion. When he comes up with a logical solution and an implementable solution in real life, maybe then only then, one might listen to him.

I'm serious about this btw.

Can someone give me ONE advantage of religion? ONE advantage of let's say the Qu'ran?

Since day one this poster been disrespectful, offensive, rude, and aggressive when it comes to any religion. I will not even contemplate discussing this with this poster because he already sealed his ears, made his made, and intent to be offensive. I think my stance should be taken by all Muslims, Christians, Jews, and anyone who is interested in religion. Discussing religion with this guy will only result in offensive posts. Let him have the last word, I believe most of us here are mature enough to not care who does....

 

[3pac]

the concept of religion is absolutely religious.














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[Rami]

You mean completly ridicilous right?

 

[3pac]

yes i meant ridiculous

 

[Joaco]

People needs anti-depressive, no religion.

 

[3pac]

People needs anti-depressive, no religion.

bibles come with a free 7 day trial of prozac

 

[Joaco]

bibles come with a free 7 day trial of prozac

would be nice that!
The bibble is very depressing too, like that fvckin movie of mel gibson. Some christians are crazy.

 

[Geof]

how is the bible boring? read this.

Just a brief note about these verses: I'm not trying to make fun of the Bible, here, but there are some verses which people have written - with God's inspiration - which blow the theory out of the water that the bible is a dull read. In some cases, these are taken out of context, sure, but I don't think that the same God who gave us a sense of humour is averse to putting a few snippets of levity in his written record.


Revelations 8:1
He who blesses his friend with a loud voice early in the morning, it will be reckoned a curse to him.

Proverbs 27:14
Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish.

Proverbs 31:6
As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.

Proverbs 26:11
Gray is a crown of splendor: it is attained by a righteous life.

Proverbs 16:31
Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.

Proverbs 21:9
Do not eat anything you find already dead. You may give it to an alien living in any of your towns and he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner...

Deuteronomy 14:21
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.

Job 13:5
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" He turned around, and looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

2 Kings 2:23-24
The lookout reported, "He has reached them, but he isn't coming back either. The driving is like that of Jehu son of Nimshi--he drives like a madman."

 

[Sianconero]

Italian anti-terror law enacted

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4731711.stm

It is feared Italy may be the next European country to be hit
The lower house of the Italian parliament has approved new measures to combat the threat of terrorist attack, which means they have become law.

The bill includes surveillance of the internet and phone networks and making it easier to detain suspects.

Those who hide their features from the public - including through wearing the Islamic burqa - also face punishment.

A number of Western countries have introduced extra measures after the London bombs this month.

The BBC's Jacky Rowland notes that explicit threats against Italy have appeared on a number of extremist websites.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has rejected the theory that Italy is being targeted due to its presence in Iraq, where it has 3,000 troops.

The government has indicated that it plans to start withdrawing those troops next year.

'Very satisfied'

Italy's upper house backed the bill on Friday.

The package of extra measures approved overwhelmingly by parliament includes:

doubling to 24 hours the time suspects can be kept in custody without charge

interrogating suspects without lawyers present

strengthening of measures to prevent terrorists from financing their operations

increasing penalties for carrying false documents

compiling lists of mobile phone users to help police investigating suspected terrorist crime

The terrorist threat with Islamic origins has a world-wide dimension, it could materialise everywhere and no corner of the planet is immune
up to two years in prison and a 2,000 euro (£1,379 or $2,424) fine for anyone who purposely hides their features by covering their faces in public.

Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu said after the vote that he was "very satisfied" with the overwhelming approval of the house.

There are growing fears that Italy could be the next target in Europe.

"The terrorist threat with Islamic origins has a world-wide dimension, it could materialise everywhere and no corner of the planet is immune," Mr Pisanu said.

The minister has said the Italian government has received no specific information of a strike.

However, about 13,000 sites around the country are being guarded against possible terrorist attack, including public buildings, embassies, ports, railway stations and the Vatican.


way to go italy, telling muslims how they can dress or not to dress. There goes freedom out the window. I also heard rumors that Italy's government wants immiragtion to Italy for christians ONLY ... :frown:

Sorrily some hidden hands have struck the real face of Islam. Islam doesn't deny christ and any other God faiths. In Quran there's a story called "Maryam" and many diffrent stories from "Yusef", "Jesus", "Musa", "Ibrahim" and many others

 

[ReBeL]

I know this has nothing to do with your dicussion, but why the hell is Israeli flag is available here while Palestinian flag is not...

I don't think Juventus is owned by jews...

 

[swag]

Still waiting for the flags of Taiwan, Kashmir, Chechnya, et al to turn a forum feature into a "political statement". :frown:

 

[ReBeL]

Still waiting for the flags of Taiwan, Kashmir, Chechnya, et al to turn a forum feature into a "political statement". :frown:

But leaving the political facts aside, Palestine has a national football team while those countries you mentioned have not. May be Taiwan...

My point is what is the point of not including it??

 

[HelterSkelter]

kashimir isnt a country.its a disputed territroy.
the same goes for chechnya too,but im not sure.

 

[swag]

Problem is that each one of these regions is "politically loaded". Some people argue that they are a separate nation -- or should be. Others argue that they are not.

My point was that this is simply a forum with software plug-ins pre-made and widely available to vBulletin users to make things convenient for getting features up quickly. Anyone who feels that whether a given nation/region/whatever is included or excluded from the list of flag options somehow represents a larger plot or conspiracy to make a political statement is wholly misguided.

This follows some of my favorite words of wisdom: "Do not presume conspiracy where merely incompetence will suffice."

So in short, my point ReBeL (putting my own feelings of Palestine's need for true statehood aside), is that you're way overthinking this.

 

[Rami]

Problem is that each one of these regions is "politically loaded". Some people argue that they are a separate nation -- or should be. Others argue that they are not.

My point was that this is simply a forum with software plug-ins pre-made and widely available to vBulletin users to make things convenient for getting features up quickly. Anyone who feels that whether a given nation/region/whatever is included or excluded from the list of flag options somehow represents a larger plot or conspiracy to make a political statement is wholly misguided.

This follows some of my favorite words of wisdom: "Do not presume conspiracy where merely incompetence will suffice."

So in short, my point ReBeL (putting my own feelings of Palestine's need for true statehood aside), is that you're way overthinking this.

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[Zé Tahir]

dammit people start -repping Swag now for all his good posts, it's not fair