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Hist

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It's a good team fosho. Their only weaknesses are lack of depth in CM and not having a backup for Koulibaly. They're addressing both this mercato.....though I'm not sure how good Grassi is. Must be better than David Lopez. They targeted better CMs and stoppers at first. They'll sign them in summer.

Our schedule in the closing stages is fairly easy. We're doing a good job of keeping up with Napoli now. Easier fixtures towards the end and our winning mentality and experience in winning the league (vs. Napoli lacking such experience) will see us through in the end.



Kovacic is a bit overrated and wasn't a guaranteed starter for them. They did well selling him for a nice lump sum, using which they were able to build a team and take care of FFP issues. They pretty much HAD to sell Kovacic.

Mancini did pretty well with the players he selected in the mercato for the most part but fvcked up big time spending 20m on Perisic. Had those 20m been invested more wisely, they would have had a decent attack.

The brawn in their midfield (and general ball-winning ability as a team) is one of their key strengths (others being the CB pair and Handa), perhaps their most important strength. Felipe Melo will always have his moments, but he's a key player for them.

In the end, with the financial constraints and the lack of quality they had in a plethora of positions in the squad, it was impossible for any director to make them a scudetto contender over that one summer. And they never remotely looked like one despite some people thinking otherwise. If they can finish top-3, that'll be a good achievement for them. Fiorentina and Roma aren't looking any better, and neither are making great moves in the mercato. Signing someone like Lavezzi can make a difference for Inter.



He has been making this type of comments for years, and they always come back to slap him in the face, yet he never learns, lol.



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I disagree about Kovacic. You cannot have a full midfield of muscle and no brains unless you have prime ibrahimovic in the squad. Perisic, Icardi, Jovetic all of them are victims of that horrid midfield of momo sissokos. They are good defensively but cant service the attackers to save their lives. They spent very heavily on Kondogbia (was it 30 mill or so?) and so could have kept kovacic instead of buying another ball winner. At the very least invest the kova money in a creative midfielder/distributor. It would have been a very good squad had their midfield had someone with different attributes.

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I disagree about Kovacic. You cannot have a full midfield of muscle and no brains unless you have prime ibrahimovic in the squad. Perisic, Icardi, Jovetic all of them are victims of that horrid midfield of momo sissokos. They are good defensively but cant service the attackers to save their lives. They spent very heavily on Kondogbia (was it 30 mill or so?) and so could have kept kovacic instead of buying another ball winner. At the very least invest the kova money in a creative midfielder/distributor. It would have been a very good squad had their midfield had someone with different attributes.

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Okay explain this shit plzhttp://www.corriere.it/sport/16_gennaio_26/calcio-fisco-64-indagati-accuse-galliani-de-laurentis-moggi-jr-58d91d66-c403-11e5-8e0c-7baf441d5d56.shtml?cmpid=SF020103COR
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Spot on, mate.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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Juve vs Napoli is going to be the most meaningful big game for a while in Serie A. Last time a big Serie A game had such importance was probably the famous gol di Muntari game. Can't wait.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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What? Totti did fuck all in 06. And screwed Italy over in 02. Buffon and our defensive line won Italy the World Cup in 06, not that turd Totti. Totti's great moment with the Azzurri came at Euro 2000. Aside from that he was decidedly mediocre with the Azzurri.
You mean he screwed them over in 2004. In 2002 he was decent. In 2006 he came back from a lengthy layoff. He wasn't brilliant, but did score that pk against Australia (which in retrospect was a penalty clear as day tbh, don't even get why there was so much debate about it back then).
 

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You mean he screwed them over in 2004. In 2002 he was decent. In 2006 he came back from a lengthy layoff. He wasn't brilliant, but did score that pk against Australia (which in retrospect was a penalty clear as day tbh, don't even get why there was so much debate about it back then).
I never understood it either, Grosso made the most of it but he couldnt avoid the contact.
 

Post Ironic

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You mean he screwed them over in 2004. In 2002 he was decent. In 2006 he came back from a lengthy layoff. He wasn't brilliant, but did score that pk against Australia (which in retrospect was a penalty clear as day tbh, don't even get why there was so much debate about it back then).
Ummm. Both 02 and 04, unless you've forgotten his red card in 02 which pretty much eliminated Italy.

2006, my point is that it wasn't Totti or any attacking player for that matter, winning the World Cup for Italy. It was the absolutely immense defensive line, and Buffon.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I never understood it either, Grosso made the most of it but he couldnt avoid the contact.
Perhaps norms do change. I remember I thought it was harsh back then. If I see it now I think it's a definite penalty.
Ummm. Both 02 and 04, unless you've forgotten his red card in 02 which pretty much eliminated Italy.

2006, my point is that it wasn't Totti or any attacking player for that matter, winning the World Cup for Italy. It was the absolutely immense defensive line, and Buffon.
You mean the red card he received for no reason whatsoever from what we now know was the most corrupt referee the world has ever seen? I don't think we can hold that against him.
 

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The only reason it was a big deal is because it was the end of the game with the cheating eyeties against the tough and honest Aussies, the choice of neutrals by virtue of being underdogs and not Italian.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Ummm. Both 02 and 04, unless you've forgotten his red card in 02 which pretty much eliminated Italy.

2006, my point is that it wasn't Totti or any attacking player for that matter, winning the World Cup for Italy. It was the absolutely immense defensive line, and Buffon.
It was mainly Buffon, Defence and Imo best player was a Pirlo that gets forgotten for some reason.

But Totti deserves cred for that world cup, he played with a metal pin in his foot, litterally couldn't run without it being painful, and he still assisted around 4 goals in that tourno.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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The only reason it was a big deal is because it was the end of the game with the cheating eyeties against the tough and honest Aussies, the choice of neutrals by virtue of being underdogs and not Italian.
I think that's probably correct.
It was mainly Buffon, Defence and Imo best player was a Pirlo that gets forgotten for some reason.

But Totti deserves cred for that world cup, he played with a metal pin in his foot, litterally couldn't run without it being painful, and he still assisted around 4 goals in that tourno.
Not sure if Pirlo is forgotten. Together with Zidane player of the tournament imo, though the latter would have been slightly better if not for you know what.
 

Osman

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Pirlo rarely gets mentionned whenever that world cup comes up in discussions, case in point PI's post, when he was clearly Italy's best player in consistent basis. Cannavaro the talismanic leader who stepped up with a great defensive unit and bossed when needed, but Pirlo was the show runner I'm majority of the games.


Yeah Zizou would prolly won MVP if he didn't have that melt down, despite losing final.
 
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