Guys, you have to make your mind up, either you value the principle of loyalty to one's club/team or not. If you do, then you have no right to make fun of Totti for not winning titles, he was always an amazing player that played for a team that was rarely ever a favorite to win the Serie A, and definitely not the CL. If you don't believe that loyalty is that important, then you have no right to hate players whom you believe have "betrayed" Juve such as Zlatan, Thuram, Zambrotta and co..
Why do I have a feeling that some of the exact same people who make fun of Totti for his lack of titles also hate some ex Juve players for their perceived lack of loyalty?