[ITA] Serie A 2014/2015 (36 Viewers)

[Martin]

Do I also r&b?

the time will come

 

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[JCK]

Berardi, Dybala, Zaza, Babacar, Morata, Icardi, etc.. this league has some exciting young forwards after quite a while.

All of which will be sold to better teams in better leagues.

 

[Roman]

Why not just get both?

Yeah....:money::money::money:

We wish but i guess not.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Underrated. Hmm.. I find him overrated.

I guess it's a Europe/Straya-thing. You know things being upside down cause y'all are living down under.

I thought you was my boy, Maddy?

All yo Scandis are a pack of ungrateful swines.

 

[am0110]

And people were wondering what made Dybala better than Berardi and Zaza...

Berardi and Dybala are incomparable, Berardi is just to clumsy to be on Dybalas level.

 

[Post Ironic]

u wat m8? wtf is this $#@!

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Dybala has a higher ceiling than Berardi currently, other than some imaginary "eye-test" that pretty much means nothing. The only empirical evidence available, the statistics over the last two years, suggest the complete opposite. Add to that, that Berardi is 10 months younger than DYbala, and you're talking out your ass in saying he is clearly a step above Berardi.

My statement was just an example of ridiculous and absurd exaggeration too. I could look at Berardi's career stats thus far and suggest he's on pace to be the best Italian forward of all time. It sure is silly though. As is this idea that Dybala, based on 23 games, and some "eye-test" is clearly better.

 

[Maddy]

I thought you was my boy, Maddy?

All yo Scandis are a pack of ungrateful swines.

We definitely walk around with a peculiar smell of Pork Cracklings.

 

[Post Ironic]

Yeeeaaaah, that's perhaps a little bit too much

It was a joke.

Just pointing out how absurd it is to say that Dybala is clearly better than Berardi, and has more talent. They're different players, but what is most clear, from their respective careers so far, is that they each have potential to be world-class. All this other nonsense about one being clearly better than the other is just stupid.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

People enjoy flair players over more "functional" players and I can understand that. But saying Berardi is a level or two below Dybala is fucking retarded.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Berardi and Dybala are incomparable, Berardi is just to clumsy to be on Dybalas level.

Read "too Italian"

 

[Maddy]

It was a joke.

Just pointing out how absurd it is to say that Dybala is clearly better than Berardi, and has more talent. They're different players, but what is most clear, from their respective careers so far, is that they each have potential to be world-class. All this other nonsense about one being clearly better than the other is just stupid.

And then Berardi flops in Allegri's 4-3-1-2 system

 

[Post Ironic]

Dybala at 19 in Serie A. 27 games---3 goals -- 0 assists

Berardi at 19 in Serie A. 29 games ---16 goals -- 9 assists

Dybala at 20 in Serie B. 28 games --- 5 goals -- 6 assists

Berardi at 20 in Serie A. 18 games --- 7 goals -- 8 assists

Dybala at 21 in Serie A. 21 games --- 11 goals -- 8 assists

Berardi at 21 in Serie A. ????

And some people say Dybala over Berardi.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Flip the names around and people would be calling Berardi a shitty flop and that Dybala is light years ahead of him

 

[Trequartista]

Berardi is not fancy nor is he elegant but he's efficient. People like fancy players more but I'd take a Müller type player who has great finishing, positioning and work-rate (on top of having a great vision in Berardi's case) ahead of most fancy players who aren't as efficient.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

We just need to spend 40 mil on Dybala. Agnelli needs to get the board to give us a loan for this kid. Fucking incredible.

I recon we could get him between 25-30 considering he is in the last year of his contract

 

[Maddy]

Dybala at 19 in Serie A. 27 games---3 goals -- 0 assists

Berardi at 19 in Serie A. 29 games ---16 goals -- 9 assists

Dybala at 20 in Serie B. 28 games --- 5 goals -- 6 assists

Berardi at 20 in Serie A. 18 games --- 7 goals -- 8 assists

Dybala at 21 in Serie A. 21 games --- 11 goals -- 8 assists

Berardi at 21 in Serie A. ????

And some people say Dybala over Berardi.

Are you seriously rofl'ing at people while using statistic as your only argument?

I bet talents scouts are useless and computers should be used from now one

Disclaiming: I think both are very talented.

 

[JuveJay]

Dybala clearly has more skill, I think a lot of people judge that as if it guarantees exponential future growth, but he still needs to improve his numbers. That's all that really matters, or else you end up like Cassano or Robinho. For someone compared to Agüero he is far behind at the same age.

 

[Post Ironic]

I recon we could get him between 25-30 considering he is in the last year of his contract

I think it more so depends on who else wants him. If teams like PSG, ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, etc go in for him, that price tag will skyrocket pretty fast.

 

[Roman]

Agree with this. It's more so the suggestions that he's a clear class above Berardi that are silly to me. What Berardi has done in top flight so far is incredible. He's 20. He clearly has the potential to be world class, just like Dybala.

That's just ridiculous Berardi has intelligence, passing and vision just as good if not better than him. Dybala has more flair and better overall technique yes. Again, you're underrating Italian players.

Oh come on. You massively underrate young players already owned/partial owned by Juventus.

If you can tell that from watching Dybala, I can tell from watching Berardi with his sublime finishing, passing, and instincts that he has the potential to be a top 3 Italian forward/winger of all time. He's 20 and he already has 23 goals and 17 assists in 47 Serie A games. Playing as a winger. That's fucking incredible. It's unheard of.

+1
Agree.

Dybala might have that more flair and be more gifted,but overall Berardi so far did no less but more in his 2 yrs already in Serie A.
He is talented,he has pace,teccnique,great vision,amazing passes,crosses...and his stats support that,even though he's more of a winger unlike Dybala who's playing CF/SS.

Both of them would be a dream come true for us.
Realistically,Berardi can be here for 15M and probably will.
Dybala will cost us 40M which we won't pay imo.and i can understand that actually.

It's a lot of money,and if we were going to pay that money,i think without taking anything from Dybala,but for 40M-50M we can sign a WC ready player,who Dybala is not yet,and we have no guarantees,that he will.

He's amazing,he is great,he might be WC,but for me he's not worth 40M.
Berardi too ofcourse,but he will cost us 15M+Peluso(~19.5M).

 

[Maddy]

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Dybala has a higher ceiling than Berardi currently, other than some imaginary "eye-test" that pretty much means nothing. The only empirical evidence available, the statistics over the last two years, suggest the complete opposite. Add to that, that Berardi is 10 months younger than DYbala, and you're talking out your ass in saying he is clearly a step above Berardi.

My statement was just an example of ridiculous and absurd exaggeration too. I could look at Berardi's career stats thus far and suggest he's on pace to be the best Italian forward of all time. It sure is silly though. As is this idea that Dybala, based on 23 games, and some "eye-test" is clearly better.

Using "empirical evidence" in the rating of footballers. Come the fuck on