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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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How is he better than Enrique, Wenger, Rodgers, Allegri, or Pellegrini?
Simply based on achievements.

With Fiorentina (my source here is wiki I wasn't a follower back then) he won a coppa italia when the team was a collapsed one.
With Lazio, he had a team that was in free fall, selling its best players and shrinking into a midtable team. This was at the height of Serie A's strength and he still managed to win a coppa italia and take the team to the semi final of the uefa cup and have a good league standing.
With Inter, he won 2 coppa italias and finished 3rd in the league before calciopoli happened. After calciopoli, he dominated domestically setting the record points that Conte broke and winning two super coppas afterwards. Yes he flopped in the CL.
With City, he won an FA cup and a top four finish in his first year in charge. In his second year he won the EPL title which is a formidable achievement and finished second to United in his last year. In his short spell in Turkey, he won the cup there too.

Now lets take a look at the candidates here:
Enrique has achieved nothing so far and his previous stunt with Roma was a disaster. He is simply not a top coach or at least have not shown that he even has the potential to be one. Until he does something notable with this Barca side he'll remain a nobody.

Wenger: He is a manager whose best asset is helping talents grow but has consistently sucked at everything else apart from a couple of seasons where a dream team was assembled. He used to have it but lost it a long time ago. He has always had a wealth of resources and consistently came very short in terms of performances. He is good for building a team but not for winning much like Mancini only Mancini atleast regularly wins cups and league titles when he has the resources.

Rodgers: A disaster of a first year, a very good second year and then a disaster of a third year. He is also terrible in the transfer market wasting huge transfer kits every season on nobodies and flops. Until he does something notable he should not be considered a top coach at all.

Allegri: Like Mancini's Inter years, he only won a Serie A title when he had the best resources and all competitors where out cold. He lost the 2011 title to us when his team was much better equipped than ours. Good coach but nothing special... very much like Mancini except he has not won regularly like Mancio has. Hopefully this changes with us.

Pellegrini: Very close to Mancio as well. Apart from his madrid stunt and the current season (if city dont get their act together), he has always won when he had the advantage to win but rarely surprised. Mancio edges him for me just by virtue of a larger trophy cabinet. Pellegrini's City is just a continuation of Mancini's city. They need a mourinho to make that solid squad into a European force. Pellegrini is not the guy for the job.

These arent poor coaches they are good (except maybe enrique and rodgers). They are not the best of the best like Mourinho or Guardiolo or Simeone etc.. but they are still good nevertheless. Marchisio like coaches if one may say so ranging between the good and the very good season to season but never constantly either and never world class. Mancini is like them but only slightly better.

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Exactly.

Mancini is one of the most overrated coaches around. The amount of his choking is pretty big.
His chocking is just as often if not less than how often Pellegrini, Allegri and most of all Wenger chokes.

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I am sure someone has told him by now or he read about it on Wiki lol.

Tbh honest Mancini is a solid coach and will make Inter better. He will make them more organized and will get more out of certain players.
Yup and he'll make them good signings too that has always been his best asset: Maicon, Cambiasso, Ibra, Samuel, Silva, Yaya, Aguero.

The best part is that if he fails (he probably will he is no miracle worker) Inter will only be able to hire worse coaches from now on. He is their last chance.
 

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GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Simply based on achievements.

With Fiorentina (my source here is wiki I wasn't a follower back then) he won a coppa italia when the team was a collapsed one.
With Lazio, he had a team that was in free fall, selling its best players and shrinking into a midtable team. This was at the height of Serie A's strength and he still managed to win a coppa italia and take the team to the semi final of the uefa cup and have a good league standing.
With Inter, he won 2 coppa italias and finished 3rd in the league before calciopoli happened. After calciopoli, he dominated domestically setting the record points that Conte broke and winning two super coppas afterwards. Yes he flopped in the CL.
With City, he won an FA cup and a top four finish in his first year in charge. In his second year he won the EPL title which is a formidable achievement and finished second to United in his last year. In his short spell in Turkey, he won the cup there too.

Now lets take a look at the candidates here:
Enrique has achieved nothing so far and his previous stunt with Roma was a disaster. He is simply not a top coach or at least have not shown that he even has the potential to be one. Until he does something notable with this Barca side he'll remain a nobody.

Wenger: He is a manager whose best asset is helping talents grow but has consistently sucked at everything else apart from a couple of seasons where a dream team was assembled. He used to have it but lost it a long time ago. He has always had a wealth of resources and consistently came very short in terms of performances. He is good for building a team but not for winning much like Mancini only Mancini atleast regularly wins cups and league titles when he has the resources.

Rodgers: A disaster of a first year, a very good second year and then a disaster of a third year. He is also terrible in the transfer market wasting huge transfer kits every season on nobodies and flops. Until he does something notable he should not be considered a top coach at all.

Allegri: Like Mancini's Inter years, he only won a Serie A title when he had the best resources and all competitors where out cold. He lost the 2011 title to us when his team was much better equipped than ours. Good coach but nothing special... very much like Mancini except he has not won regularly like Mancio has. Hopefully this changes with us.

Pellegrini: Very close to Mancio as well. Apart from his madrid stunt and the current season (if city dont get their act together), he has always won when he had the advantage to win but rarely surprised. Mancio edges him for me just by virtue of a larger trophy cabinet. Pellegrini's City is just a continuation of Mancini's city. They need a mourinho to make that solid squad into a European force. Pellegrini is not the guy for the job.

These arent poor coaches they are good (except maybe enrique and rodgers). They are not the best of the best like Mourinho or Guardiolo or Simeone etc.. but they are still good nevertheless. Marchisio like coaches if one may say so ranging between the good and the very good season to season but never constantly either and never world class. Mancini is like them but only slightly better.

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His chocking is just as often if not less than how often Pellegrini, Allegri and most of all Wenger chokes.

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Yup and he'll make them good signings too that has always been his best asset: Maicon, Cambiasso, Ibra, Samuel, Silva, Yaya, Aguero.

The best part is that if he fails (he probably will he is no miracle worker) Inter will only be able to hire worse coaches from now on. He is their last chance.
:tup:
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
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today, yes today they managed to dig up Gigi Simoni again and talk about what happened in 98. Simoni said if these things didn't happen he'd still be coaching inter. They also mentioned il gol di muntari out of the blue just like that.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
So many losers out there in Italy, punch of pathetic fucks.

Instead of improving their teams they throw their failure on Juve. Been around in that 98 season and we were head and shoulders better than any team Italy. The losers don't realize that we actually reached the champions league final that year !
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,624
today, yes today they managed to dig up Gigi Simoni again and talk about what happened in 98. Simoni said if these things didn't happen he'd still be coaching inter. They also mentioned il gol di muntari out of the blue just like that.
Thanks to our management's spineless attitude towards those who slander us and our pathetic Public Relations.
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
97,675
The :tuttosport: over Mancini on Italian TV is barf worthy. They're practically looping his press conference and "wins" with inter over and over...
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,990
Mancini will have a very tough work...unlike when he came to inter the first time.

I cannot wait how he will fare till the end of season.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calc...eer-transfer-market-ill-meet-garcia-tomorrow/

Roma’s Sabatini: “Totti deserves the Ballon D’Or for his career. Transfer market? I’ll meet Garcia tomorrow”

Roma’s sporting director Walter Sabatini talked to Gazzetta TV during the event 'Il bello del calcio’: “Totti has been surely the most important player I had in my career. Maybe it’s an injustice towards him if I say that he’s one of the top five Italian players of all time. I think that he deserves the Ballon D’Or for his career, it’s unrepeatable.” On the next strategies: “We’ll see. We had some issues and we have to evaluate their severity, we need to see whether these injuries can lead to serious situations. I’ll meet Garcia tomorrow and we’ll analyze the problems that are emerging, they can be fixed but they exist.”
:lol:
 

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