[ITA] Serie A 2014/2015 (27 Viewers)

[Lion]

can someone pls -rep hustini for me over his drama tantrum here?

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[Hust]

And then women like Lion -rep me because I won't post a pic of my wife

 

[Xperd]

Seriously how many people on Tuz say for example are totally hooked to Serie A ? Apart from a few hipsters,there's not a lot.People on Tuz only prefer watching Juve games nowadays.If this is the state of the existing Serie A fans' mindsets,imagine how the non-Serie A fans would look at this league.This league cant keep losing fans,rather it should try and reach out to newer shores and gain new fans in the process.

Currently Serie A has,
No Title race
Nothing overly exciting about the CL spot race
Nobody giving a fuck about the bottom teams(well thats a given anyway)
Most importantly its marred with off-field controversies

Seriously the league has been so dire to watch,it needs a fresh outlook.The fact of the matter is this league needs an oil club/cash rich club.It needs immediate investment.If Milan are the closest to being one,then so be it.

Yes it would suck that one of our rivals could become rich but looking at the larger picture,the positives outweigh the negatives for me.And these are positives speaking from a Juventus perspective.

Juve and Milan are the only two teams in Italy where foreign investors can see it as a profitable venture because they are huge brands internationally and already generate a reasonably healthy income.Other teams in Italy are just not worth investing into imo.This is why the PL attract foreign investment regularly cos there are obvious incentives in putting money into clubs.

This league is in a rather desperate situation that i cant be emotional about our rivalries with other clubs.It doesnt mean i'm going to sit and cheer for them,thats the last thing i would do but it would just be good for the league.Plus Milan-Juve derby could be an exciting affair again.

 

[Hust]

Seriously how many people on Tuz say for example are totally hooked to Serie A ? Apart from a few hipsters,there's not a lot.People on Tuz only prefer watching Juve games nowadays.If this is the state of the existing Serie A fans' mindsets,imagine how the non-Serie A fans would look at this league.This league cant keep losing fans,rather it should try and reach out to newer shores and gain new fans in the process.

Currently Serie A has,
No Title race
Nothing overly exciting about the CL spot race
Nobody giving a fuck about the bottom teams(well thats a given anyway)
Most importantly its marred with off-field controversies

Seriously the league has been so dire to watch,it needs a fresh outlook.The fact of the matter is this league needs an oil club/cash rich club.It needs immediate investment.If Milan are the closest to being one,then so be it.

Yes it would suck that one of our rivals could become rich but looking at the larger picture,the positives outweigh the negatives for me.And these are positives speaking from a Juventus perspective.

Juve and Milan are the only two teams in Italy where foreign investors can see it as a profitable venture because they are huge brands internationally and already generate a reasonably healthy income.Other teams in Italy are just not worth investing into imo.This is why the PL attract foreign investment regularly cos there are obvious incentives in putting money into clubs.

This league is in a rather desperate situation that i cant be emotional about our rivalries with other clubs.It doesnt mean i'm going to sit and cheer for them,thats the last thing i would do but it would just be good for the league.Plus Milan-Juve derby could be an exciting affair again.

Because if we went bankrupt and went through what the Milans are going through there would be absolutely not one club unhappy about it. Everyone would be ecstatic if juve collapsed in similar fashion but we are somehow supposed to pity those that imploded through no ones fault but their own?

 

[Xperd]

Because if we went bankrupt and went through what the Milans are going through there would be absolutely not one club unhappy about it. Everyone would be ecstatic if juve collapsed in similar fashion but we are somehow supposed to pity those that imploded through no ones fault but their own?

Who says we're pitying them ? Tuz does not echo Rumenigge's opinions and tbf i think you're getting a bit touchy over a rather trivial issue.

Also i really dont give a fuck if there are 100 Italian teams hating us.You have to look for Juve's best interests at the end of the day.For someone who's so pro-board,i'm surprised you dont share similar thoughts to Marotta and Agnelli.Tell you what,they'd welcome this move as well.

 

[Hust]

Who says we're pitying them ? Tuz does not echo Rumenigge's opinions and tbf i think you're getting a bit touchy over a rather trivial issue.

Also i really dont give a fuck if there are 100 Italian teams hating us.You have to look for Juve's best interests at the end of the day.For someone who's so pro-board,i'm surprised you dont share similar thoughts to Marotta and Agnelli.Tell you what,they'd welcome this move as well.

Not us, but apparently outside clubs are and are calling on a consensus to help them.

The board would say they want Italian teams in general to do better in Europe, regardless who they are but I doubt deep down they would prefer the Milans.

 

[Xperd]

Deep down Agnelli and Marotta know this league needs new investors.Juve cant rise on its own.Its dependent on the league becoming great again as much as you dont like to admit it.
Deep down,yes they'd rather prefer Sampdoria or Genoa to become cash-rich clubs.
But deep down,they also know that no one sane enough would invest into some random scrub Serie A team rather they'd be looking at Juve or Milan as an investment venture.

 

[Hust]

Deep down Agnelli and Marotta know this league needs new investors.Juve cant rise on its own.Its dependent on the league becoming great again as much as you dont like to admit it.
Deep down,yes they'd rather prefer Sampdoria or Genoa to become cash-rich clubs.
But deep down,they also know that no one sane enough would invest into some random scrub Serie A team rather they'd be looking at Juve or Milan as an investment venture.

I agree with the bolded part.

The last part about someone not investing in some scrub Serie A team I don't, however. You see investors (take red bull or VW) dumping cash into clubs that aren't Bayern/Dortmund, for example, in Germany. Why can't the same happen in Italy? Hell Leipzig has the benefit of red bull now. Italy is in a pathetic state of affairs and that I have no issue whatsoever admitting but its their own fault. They got themselves in it so they need to find a way out and if selling to foreign investors is the way to go then so be it. Agnelli said recently he didn't care where the investments came from as long as them come.

 

[lgorTudor]

I preferred to see Milan rise the Bayern way: with competence and consistency. Not the Chelsea way, spending 500M on transfer market and leave us to negotiate over peanuts because Marotta just doesnt have the means. I can't see I am happy seeing us work hard every day and our retard brother who cant tie his shows on his own getting a sugar daddy. Ok, Serie A will benefit but I don't want too see idiotic management rewarded.

 

[Hust]

Well if FFP actually works it should stop clubs with deep pockets from spending their way out of a hole without any long term solution.

At least, that's my hope.

 

[Xperd]

Volkswagen is German bro and they're bloody rich.They've been in control of Wolfsburg for years too,its not like they bought the club recently.

I dont have much idea about Leipzig though.Maybe someone else can shed some light on it.

I was mainly talking about foreign investment though.And anyway,in BL a foreign owner can only have 50% control of the club so thats would be seen as a hindrance to invest in a BL club.

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I preferred to see Milan rise the Bayern way: with competence and consistency. Not the Chelsea way, spending 500M on transfer market and leave us to negotiate over peanuts because Marotta just doesnt have the means. I can't see I am happy seeing us work hard every day and our retard brother who cant tie his shows on his own getting a sugar daddy. Ok, Serie A will benefit but I don't want too see idiotic management rewarded.

I really doubt Milan are going to go the sugar daddy way.Milan are pressing for a new stadium so i'd assume a lot of the money would be directed towards it.But its all speculation at this point though,anyway.

 

[Juvellino]

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‘Europe, help Milan clubs’
By Football Italia staff

Bayern Munich chief executive Karl-Heinz Rummenigge says European clubs should ‘help certain teams such as Inter and Milan’.

The former striker, who played for the Nerazzurri, is also head of the European Club Association, and believes that Financial Fair Play is having a negative effect on some clubs.

“It’s a pity not just for the clubs [Milan and Inter] but also for Italian and European football,” Rummenigge lamented in an interview with Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Teams like Milan and Inter are big names which are used to the competition [the Champions League].

“However, complaining does not help. I saw [Inter director] Marco Fassone yesterday, and I immediately thought: ‘five years ago Inter won the Champions League’.

“Football can be strange sometimes, but in the last five years something has gone wrong.

“We need to have a clear plan, with all financial options available, yet without going against Financial Fair Play.

“We must remember that Inter are under investigation for not respecting those rules. Also, we, as the Club Association, must think about how we can help certain teams like Inter and Milan with Financial Fair Play, because it damages them.

“If you have a hole, you can’t plug it without any fresh money. I’ve read that Milan could be sold, but the new owner couldn’t put in too much money without going against UEFA limitations.

“So, it’s up to us as big names to find a solution which won’t penalise them any more.

“There are clear, rigid laws but we must think about not hurting clubs too.

“Almost all clubs from Eastern Europe suffer because they don’t have a lot of revenue from television, sponsors and merchandising.

“So we need to look at how we can lend a hand to those clubs, but also some big clubs in Western Europe who now find themselves in trouble.”

Bayern have done business with Inter in recent months, with Xherdan Shaqiri moving from Bavaria to Lombardy, and Rummenigge reveals he was instrumental in the deal.

“Shaqiri needed to play, I advised him to go to Inter even though a lot of British clubs wanted him. With Inter’s difficulties, he was exactly the right buy, he has quality, he’s young and he can make a difference.

“He’ll become even more consistent with time, because he has to feel good, to feel at home. We could have earned more money and sold him to England, but we’ve given them a discount.”



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You fucking slime. Lowlife pieces of shit, of course you idiots want to come to the rescue and help two clubs run by even bigger idiots. Where was our help in 2006? Of course, we were drug through the mud and the entire world thought we cheated but now the two milan clubs have Karma breathing down their necks and Europe wants to help them but of course "say within FFP regulations" despite one of them already being investigated. Fuck your Karl Heinz.

I am surprised no one is talking about this.

Corporate Welfare.

 

[Lion]

Because if we went bankrupt and went through what the Milans are going through there would be absolutely not one club unhappy about it. Everyone would be ecstatic if juve collapsed in similar fashion but we are somehow supposed to pity those that imploded through no ones fault but their own?

let it go. rummingge says something =/= all of europe supports him or that anythign will be done. this isnt amercian government and milan isnt GM getting a buyout.

calm down titty boy.

edit: and milan is fine. Berluscioni is a billionare bro.

 

[Alex-444]

let it go. rummingge says something =/= all of europe supports him or that anythign will be done. this isnt amercian government and milan isnt GM getting a buyout.

calm down titty boy.

edit: and milan is fine. Berluscioni is a billionare bro.

 

[lgorTudor]

let it go. rummingge says something =/= all of europe supports him or that anythign will be done. this isnt amercian government and milan isnt GM getting a buyout.

I agree but Rummenigge is one powerful nigge. Being ECA president and member of UEFA executive committee he actually has some influence in Europe. We don't need to overevaluate his statements but they definitely carry more weight than some Serie A moron president talking crap after drinking too much grappa

 

[Lion]

no doubt. what we need to consider it's all nice and shiney until the part about giving money away to fund these teams comes and in and rummennige will be laughed at. no one will gie money away to another team. not even the oil rich clubs

 

[Elvin]

obviously it's just talk

 

[lgorTudor]

I think it's not about giving money but about tweaking FFP rules and come up with some kind of backdoor exception for them so they don't receive UEFA punishment for their mismanagement.

 

[zizinho]

Because if we went bankrupt and went through what the Milans are going through there would be absolutely not one club unhappy about it. Everyone would be ecstatic if juve collapsed in similar fashion but we are somehow supposed to pity those that imploded through no ones fault but their own?

cant believe you missed the "so be it"

 

[Elvin]

I think it's not about giving money but about tweaking FFP rules and come up with some kind of backdoor exception for them so they don't receive UEFA punishment for their mismanagement.

exception? It would be unfair to every other club. Wtf is so special about the Milan clubs anyway...