[ITA] Serie A 2013/2014 (62 Viewers)

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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But dint lazio go bankrupt for different reasons though ? I mean wasnt he involved in some corruption scandal thus forced to sell the club ?
Thats the big issue with sugar daddy's.

Lazio was spending far over what they could carry, but that chairmen kept funding it. then he got into a scandal, and lazio had to rely on the "normal" income, wich wasent quite sufficient.

He sold the team, and the team had to sell everything.

Napoli is now also doing a simular thing. they are building a team that requires a steady growth, and yearly championsleague, to be sustainable. IF milan and fiorentina manage to take this years cl spots, and suddenly, inter and milan for example do it next year, then napoli is in a HUGE amount of trouble.

If that would happen to the current juve, it would just mean "allright guyse, no summer transfers before sales"


thats the diffrence between juve and napoli. And our continassa project is significantly bigger and better then theirs. U'll love our turnover once that is running
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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But dint lazio go bankrupt for different reasons though ? I mean wasnt he involved in some corruption scandal thus forced to sell the club ?
That was why he had to sell, but it wasn't really how Lazio got into trouble.

Lazio weren't generating enough cash for what they were spending. The big purchases were funded by loans and Lazio's floatation on the stock exchange, but that was just a one-off lump sum raised. They never had the steady, reliable income to back that up and make their model even remotely sustainable.

Now, Napoli have very little debt as things stand. De Laurentiis has also been a vocal in his support of the FFP regulations.

I see these moves by Napoli as being a risk in as much as if they fail they will set the club back a couple of years in their development.

I don't think they will be doing anything that really puts them in a dangerous situation as far as the long-term financial wellbeing of the club is concerned.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
That was why he had to sell, but it wasn't really how Lazio got into trouble.

Lazio weren't generating enough cash for what they were spending. The big purchases were funded by loans and Lazio's floatation on the stock exchange, but that was just a one-off lump sum raised. They never had the steady, reliable income to back that up and make their model even remotely sustainable.

Now, Napoli have very little debt as things stand. De Laurentiis has also been a vocal in his support of the FFP regulations.

I see these moves by Napoli as being a risk in as much as if they fail they will set the club back a couple of years in their development.

I don't think they will be doing anything that really puts them in a dangerous situation as far as the long-term financial wellbeing of the club is concerned.
I have to disagree red.

Napoli, like Lazio, have a one time lump of cash. Where as Lazio had the stock market, Napoli has the cavani fee.

Napoli has a much smaller fanbase, old stadium, much less turnover, compared to us.

They are currently buying players and giving them rather large wages. But can they sustain it ?
No, they arent making debts like Lazio did. But these wages are big, and if they miss 1 or 2 CL's in a row, they are facing a liquidity problem, wich will force sales.

Now, how do they come back from that ? They now have a one time chance, with cavani money, but they wont get that from the players they are now buying.

IF napoli fails, they are degradated to Fiorentina level. and could stay there for a pretty long time
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Tbh if Napoli aspire to be a big club they have to spend ,they actually have no choice.I certainly dont think they're going into the Lazio level of insanity but i think there's room now to market their brand that is Napoli with the 'big' signings ,ADL is a film producer afterall.Also you could say they're just trying to take advantage of the bad financial situation of the Milan clubs here and establish themselves as a top 3 team.If rafa clicks,they could certainly imo.

I'm sure they would've had backup plans as well if ever the project fails but they've generally been a well run club up until now ,i'm sure they would've looked into FFP and other considerations as well.

Our situation to theirs is different.Our prestige is way superior to them.They need to make that up and establish themselves as one of the big Italian teams.For that they have to spend,no other option.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Tbh if Napoli aspire to be a big club they have to spend ,they actually have no choice.I certainly dont think they're going into the Lazio level of insanity but i think there's room now to market their brand that is Napoli with the 'big' signings ,ADL is a film producer afterall.Also you could say they're just trying to take advantage of the bad financial situation of the Milan clubs here and establish themselves as a top 3 team.If rafa clicks,they could certainly imo.

I'm sure they would've had backup plans as well if ever the project fails but they've generally been a well run club up until now ,i'm sure they would've looked into FFP and other considerations as well.

Our situation to theirs is different.Our prestige is way superior to them.They need to make that up and establish themselves as one of the big Italian teams.
They could have played it much more safe by strenghtening the team troughout, like we did. But that takes a marotta.

Seriously, dat sum for higuain..
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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They could have played it much more safe by strenghtening the team troughout, like we did. But that takes a marotta.

Seriously, dat sum for higuain..
I agree with you regarding the sum.But who knows if they have a crazy marketing plan or something ? Napoli has a very good fanbase in Italy.For international reach they have to sign 'stars'.Higuain is a start.

Again,Juve dont need to sign stars,they are already big ,Napoli arent and thats the difference.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Its a steep climb.

But thing is, with milan teams beeing shit,serie a needs this

Perhaps a total shift in power wouldnt be that bad

juventus - napoli - fiorentina/roma


I wouldnt mind if thats next years top 4.

moratti and berlusconi should sell their teams.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,136
Its a steep climb.

But thing is, with milan teams beeing $#@!,serie a needs this

Perhaps a total shift in power wouldnt be that bad

juventus - napoli - fiorentina/roma


I wouldnt mind if thats next years top 4.

moratti and berlusconi should sell their teams.
Absolutely.Same here.

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Serie A does need this because it improves TV ratings and prestige of the league.I think we shouldnt care less about other teams' finances as long we're good imo which we are.

If at all Napoli go bankrupt ,Milan or an Inter will suddenly emerge and there is also Roma.There's actually nothing to worry about.We should be happy and at the same time wary also that competition is increasing in the league.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
The league would stink if all big clubs get bankcrupt. This is Serie A we need competitive teams. I am happy for them to spend, as long we are the Champions.

I dont watch Scotish League.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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Who thinks Napoli has a better team on paper this year compared to last? I think Rossi is going to tear it up this year by the way, Fiorentina's team is :tup:
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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I'm genuinely impressed with the signings clubs are making across the board in Serie A this season. For those doubting Milan you ought to think again. They may not look spectacular on paper but they didn't in the 11/12 season either. They have one of the better attacks in the league and if Balotelli stays fit he can single handedly hoist them into top 3 contention ala Ibrahimobitch and take them into CL quarters if they're lucky. Moreover, Napoli's defense is not at a top 3 standard. That is going to be a big problem for them all season IMO. Their season is the most difficult to predict because you just don't know how Benitez will fare while we're yet to see what Higuain is capable of as the sole star in a new team.
 

dann10

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Aug 26, 2008
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I'm genuinely impressed with the signings clubs are making across the board in Serie A this season. For those doubting Milan you ought to think again. They may not look spectacular on paper but they didn't in the 11/12 season either. They have one of the better attacks in the league and if Balotelli stays fit he can single handedly hoist them into top 3 contention ala Ibrahimobitch and take them into CL quarters if they're lucky. Moreover, Napoli's defense is not at a top 3 standard. That is going to be a big problem for them all season IMO. Their season is the most difficult to predict because you just don't know how Benitez will fare while we're yet to see what Higuain is capable of as the sole star in a new team.
Don't you mean 12/13? In 11/12 they had Ibra, T.Silva, Gattuso, Van Bommel, Nesta, Cassano,Seedorf,Pato and El Shaa.

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Agreeing terms with a player is a lot easier than agreeing transfer fee with Porto, i can't see them selling for less than 35m.
:lol2: if napoli pay that :lol2:
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
I don't understand how people are repeatedly saying that the Milan teams are bad. Milan had a fantastic run from January onwards last season and there is no reason they can't do the same again this time around from the beginning of the season. Inter has a young team and Mazzari did great work with Napoli and there is no reason either that he can't do the same with Inter.

As for the others, Napoli have lost Cavani but brought very good players instead. And all the talk about Benitez is just bullshit, the man has won titles. He won the CL with Liverpool FFS. The base that Mazzari has left and their attacking power can only become better with Benitez's defensive balance, they will do very good this season.

Fiorentina played very good football last season and they have strengthened their squad very much. Their coach seems very good and has an idea and a plan on what to do with the team.

Laugh on the other Serie A teams all you want but the fact remains is that we bought two forwards and still have no idea how they will turn out to be.
 

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