[ITA] Serie A 2012/2013 (23 Viewers)

[Osman]

That was a 100% dive, my bro is a big Roma fan, was watching game on iPad next to me, and he cursed De Rossi after he saw that pathetic dive.

 

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[Vlad]

That's great.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

De Rossi actually gets his achilles raked by that Paraguayan players studs

Trust me bro

 

[Red]

If you look closer you can see that the Chievo guy makes a big step towards De Rossi. I am 100% sure that he steps on his foot! Why would he react like that if there was nothing?

Replay from another angle showed that De Rossi did get his foot stepped on.

Pretty funny, because you could see that De Rossi, when speaking to the ref, was complaining about betting his foot stood on.

The Chievo player then did it again the moment the ref turned his back.

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We really should continue to show balls, and individually sell our tv rights.

Not having a fair (fair, not necessarily equal) distribution of TV money is a great way to completely wreck a league.

 

[Zacheryah]

Why should we carry a league that has given us so little, and does so much to keep us down ?

The smaller teams will suffocate, but fuck them leeches

Bigger teams like inter, milan, napoli, lazio, fiorentina, roma... should get at least the same of what they get now

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

People really don't understand that we actually kinda depend on the league, at least a little, for our own status. We can't be a European powerhouse playing in a Belgian-level league.

 

[Hist]

If the rules change and we can get all the TV rights revenues like Madrid and Barca do.. i say the hell with Serie A.

 

[Joe]

People really don't understand that we actually kinda depend on the league, at least a little, for our own status. We can't be a European powerhouse playing in a Belgian-level league.

Thank you!

So true.

 

[Ahmed]

People really don't understand that we actually kinda depend on the league, at least a little, for our own status. We can't be a European powerhouse playing in a Belgian-level league.

dude this is friggin' Italy, 4 time World Champions.

Serie A could NEVER be that lopsided.

 

[tyouto]

different angle, De Rossi did get his foot stepped on

 

[Buck Fuddy]

@Buck Fuddy, how dare you make sense?

I'm sorry. I won't let it happen again

Just like Buck, I don't see any reason why I should call this a bad or a good move for the league.

Well, you're one of the few guys who gets what I'm saying.

Case in point:

Probably yes. Buck thinks that sponsors will pay less if there are fewer games but I see it as fewer lousy games which are irrelevant and it would raise competitiveness overall.

How did you come to any conclusion about what I think?

You come up with arguments why less teams would be good, I come up with reasons why it might not work out as you would expect. How exactly is that an opinion of how I feel?

For what it's worth: 20 teams is fine with me, 18 would be fine as well. It just so happens it's 20 right now, and I'd say you need (f)actual reasons to change something. Reasons that I don't see.

So, it all comes down to having reduced the number of teams and not other variables?

Of course not. The Belgian league is pretty crappy regardless.

But the concept is still the same: you take out a few of the poor teams and you expect interest & quality to improve. It didn't happen. Hell, ticket sales have been decreasing for a while now & the less said about the quality, the better.
And today (for the last season or so, actually), you start hearing voices to decrease the amount of teams again to 14 or even 12. Just because the expected improvement did not happen. Makes you wonder where you'll end up.


Besides, if improving the league was something the FIGC was truly interested in (and not catering to certain teams' interests), they would have fixed the whole reserve teams shit by now.

Not having a fair (fair, not necessarily equal) distribution of TV money is a great way to completely wreck a league.

Doesn't take much of a brain to figure that one out

 

[Bianconero90]

You must be a big fan of De Rossi to say such thing. Actually 95% sure that you are.

What he did there was no better than Barcelona (mainly Pedro) acting classes.

I cant deny that. I like him as a player because I generally like loyal players (especially that press conference last year because of City was class. 95% of all players would have gone for the money) and I admire that he always gives everything although it is for Roma.

I knew that that paraguayan clip now would come but even there the Paraguay player steps him on the ankle, good to see on some slow motion youtube vids.

 

[Vlad]

How did you come to any conclusion about what I think?

You come up with arguments why less teams would be good, I come up with reasons why it might not work out as you would expect. How exactly is that an opinion of how I feel?

For what it's worth: 20 teams is fine with me, 18 would be fine as well. It just so happens it's 20 right now, and I'd say you need (f)actual reasons to change something. Reasons that I don't see.

You don't think competitiveness will raise? How about those teams that have nothing to play for couple of months before the season ends? Having 11 teams that can neither be relegated nor they can achieve the European qualifications is pointless. And every season out of those 11 at least 7 teams secure their status 5-6 rounds before the end so what kind of games can they offer? You won't see an average fan glued to the chair while watching thrilling game between Chievo 0-0 Catania. Nor will the stadium be filled. The number of those teams would be reduced. Fact is quality would be raised. Eliminating games like those would increase relative number of good games per week. Fact.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

You don't think competitiveness will raise? How about those teams that have nothing to play for couple of months before the season ends? Having 11 teams that can neither be relegated nor they can achieve the European qualifications is pointless. And every season out of those 11 at least 7 teams secure their status 5-6 rounds before the end so what kind of games can they offer? You won't see an average fan glued to the chair while watching thrilling game between Chievo 0-0 Catania. Nor will the stadium be filled. The number of those teams would be reduced. Fact is quality would be raised. Eliminating games like those would increase relative number of good games per week. Fact.

It's not a fact. It's what you think will happen. Unless I have a different definition of quality, of course.

One thing I have to ask myself: why stop at 18? Make it 8 or 10 teams & you'll have great, big, quality games each week! And everyone will have something to play for till the end of the season. Can you imagine the excitement?

 

[Vlad]

It's not a fact. It's what you think will happen. Unless I have a different definition of quality, of course.

No it's a fact. Having 2 out of 8 lousy games per week is less than 4 out of 10. 25%<40% Number of quality games would raise from 60 to 75%. It's measurable. You can debate would it produce the wanted effect but definitive increse in quality would be more than evident.

One thing I have to ask myself: why stop at 18? Make it 8 or 10 teams & you'll have great, big, quality games each week! And everyone will have something to play for till the end of the season. Can you imagine the excitement?

I know you're joking on this one but no, there needs to be a balance. Eventually having too few number of teams can lead to a decrease in interest as market shrinks. I think this happened to your league. Decreasing supply of anything for too much and after a while people will start to look for substitute product. The same thing is with prices. Increasing them too much again makes people look for the alternatives. For me between 16-18 teams would be ideal.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

No it's a fact. Having 2 out of 8 lousy games per week is less than 4 out of 10. 25%<40%

Still not a fact that has anything to do with quality.

Hell, the recent Juve-Milan game was pretty lousy if you ask me.

No, there needs to be a balance. Eventually having too few number of teams can lead to a decrease in interest as market shrinks.

Exactly. And how do you define that balance? I still see no reason why 18 would be better than 14. Or why 20 is worse than 16. Why not go for 28 & split them in 2 & have play offs with the 4 highest ranked? The possibilities are endless.



Can't believe I got into this discussion. I don't even care if it's 18 or 20 teams. One big, fat :sergoi: to myself.

 

[Vlad]

Still not a fact that has anything to do with quality.

Hell, the recent Juve-Milan game was pretty lousy if you ask me.

It's a fact. I calculated it for you. You can ad+-5% to that in any direction but you can't deny quality change.

Exactly. And how do you define that balance? I still see no reason why 18 would be better than 14. Or why 20 is worse than 16. Why not go for 28 & split them in 2 & have play offs with the 4 highest ranked? The possibilities are endless.

Can't believe I got into this discussion. I don't even care if it's 18 or 20 teams. One big, fat :sergoi: to myself.

I can't believe my self either.
It's been evident so far that 20 team in Serie A simply doesn't offer excitement with some of the games and teams really have nothing to play for. Increasing the number wouldn't make any sense. So I wouldn't certainly go into that direction. The other option is to decrease number of team and there you can debate whether it should be 16, 18, 14 or other number you can think of. You also should look at the market and see what's the demand for this type of product. You don't want to some opportunities to pass by. I really don't have time for more now, maybe later...

 

[piotrr]

How would the Serie A table look like if we count only goals scored by the Italians?

1. Juventus - 75 (39:9)
2. AC Milan - 73 (49:19)
3. Udinese Calcio - 54 (28:15)
4. AS Roma - 54 (41:30)
5. Bologna FC - 51 (33:23)
6. Torino FC - 50 (28:26)
7. Parma FC - 47 (26:19)
8. AC Siena - 43 (20:29)
9. ACF Fiorentina - 42 (18:20)
10. Lazio Rzym - 41 (16:16)
11. Cagliari Calcio - 41 (20:22)
12. Sampdoria - 40 (16:20)
13. Atalanta Bergamo - 39 (16:24)
14. Chievo Werona - 39 (17:28)
15. Genoa CFC - 38 (27:35)
16. SSC Napoli - 36 (13:25)
17. Inter - 35 (15:25)
18. Delfino Pescara 1936 - 32 (11:27)
19. US Palermo - 31 (13:25)
20. Catania Calcio - 31 (10:23)

Best scorers would be:
1. Antonio Di Natale - 20 goals
2. Stephan El Shaarawy - 16
- Pablo Osvaldo - 16
4. Giampaolo Pazzini - 15
5. Alberto Gilardino - 13

Assists:
1. Francesco Totti - 12
2. Antonio Cassano - 9
- Fabrizio Miccoli - 9
3. Alessio Cerci - 7
- Andrea Cossu - 7
- Alessandro Diamanti - 7
- Lorenzo Insigne - 7
- Francesco Lodi - 7

from article by pilkanozna.pl

Inter

 

[JuveJay]

That is an absolute disgrace.

 

[ZoSo]

How would the Serie A table look like if we count only goals scored by the Italians?

1. Juventus - 75 (39:9)
2. AC Milan - 73 (49:19)
3. Udinese Calcio - 54 (28:15)
4. AS Roma - 54 (41:30)
5. Bologna FC - 51 (33:23)
6. Torino FC - 50 (28:26)
7. Parma FC - 47 (26:19)
8. AC Siena - 43 (20:29)
9. ACF Fiorentina - 42 (18:20)
10. Lazio Rzym - 41 (16:16)
11. Cagliari Calcio - 41 (20:22)
12. Sampdoria - 40 (16:20)
13. Atalanta Bergamo - 39 (16:24)
14. Chievo Werona - 39 (17:28)
15. Genoa CFC - 38 (27:35)
16. SSC Napoli - 36 (13:25)
17. Inter - 35 (15:25)
18. Delfino Pescara 1936 - 32 (11:27)
19. US Palermo - 31 (13:25)
20. Catania Calcio - 31 (10:23)

Best scorers would be:
1. Antonio Di Natale - 20 goals
2. Stephan El Shaarawy - 16
- Pablo Osvaldo - 16
4. Giampaolo Pazzini - 15
5. Alberto Gilardino - 13

Assists:
1. Francesco Totti - 12
2. Antonio Cassano - 9
- Fabrizio Miccoli - 9
3. Alessio Cerci - 7
- Andrea Cossu - 7
- Alessandro Diamanti - 7
- Lorenzo Insigne - 7
- Francesco Lodi - 7

from article by pilkanozna.pl

Inter

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