[ITA] Serie A 2011/2012 (79 Viewers)

[Fake Melo]

Because Inter are broke and it's only going to get worse when they don't get into the CL next season.

Going from Motta to Palombo, pocketing 10m and saving another million or two in wages is something Inter probably had to do.

With the whole FFP thing, I don't see how Inter can avoid going into a period of steady decline, unless the pull off a couple of really great transfers.

I am aware of their FFP problems, but letting him go, and replacing him with Palombo & Guarin (who is out for 1 month and misses CL) just doesn't make sense. Knowing their management, they won't be pulling off great transfers in couple of years. They'll be in huge trouble if they miss out on CL this year.

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I don't know about the rules but don't you guys think a three match ban is a bit too much for that kind of foul play?

I doubt that it's about that kind of foul play. He'll be suspended based on violent conduct. That could be anything from knocking a player down to slapping him. He did it last year as well when he punched a player.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

I do

I don't know about the rules but don't you guys think a three match ban is a bit too much for that kind of foul play?

Nope.

 

[Red]

I do

I don't know about the rules but don't you guys think a three match ban is a bit too much for that kind of foul play?

Yup.

I think the need to look again at the number of games that get given as bans.

Three games for a little slap.

Totti got five games (I think) for trying to seriously injure Balotelli.

Suarez got eight for saying a nasty word.


I'm not saying it's an easy thing to balance out, but I'm not sure things are right at the moment.

 

[Salvatore]

Everyone should. He's the biggest threat in Milan, and the team seems to play slightly badly without him. Losing him for 3 games should be a boon for their opponents.

I've grown bored of him vs Juve.

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I don't know about the rules but don't you guys think a three match ban is a bit too much for that kind of foul play?

Krasic got three for diving. Dias got three for punching Van Bommel. Lamela got three for kicking Chiellini? Melo got three. Seems like a standard punishment.

 

[Red]

Krasic got three for diving. Dias got three for punching Van Bommel. Lamela got three for kicking Chiellini? Melo got three. Seems like a standard punishment.

Is Ibrahimovic's little slap on a par with Dias throwing a punch?

I'd say there should be more thought given rather than just slapping everyone with a three-match ban.

That's not to say the decisions were wrong given what the rules are just now.

 

[Alen]

It can be two for all I care. They will need him much more against Udinese and Cesena. Against us he might score but he won't make a difference and it will be in our advantage if Milan base their game around Zlatan. Imo we'll suffer more if Milan play pacey players up front (Robinho+Pato).
But yes, despite it being just a slap, it should be 3 game ban simply because that's the minimum they give for violent conduct.

P.S: What Red says is true. But until they define the rules better, Zlatan should get a 3 match ban.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I've grown bored of him vs Juve.

It's not just our games that matter. If Milan suck ass in the other 2 games, we might be able to build a good gap between us.

 

[king Ale]

I doubt that it's about that kind of foul play. He'll be suspended based on violent conduct. That could be anything from knocking a player down to slapping him. He did it last year as well when he punched a player.

It was hardly violent with absolutely no intention of injuring the player. I see players pushing each others in front of the refs and are given only yellow cards. I know the important thing here is to treat everyone equally so the three match ban could be justified but I think a red card would be fine and enough.

 

[Fake Melo]

It was hardly violent with absolutely no intention of injuring the player. I see players pushing each others in front of the refs and are given only yellow cards. I know the important thing here is to treat everyone equally so the three match ban could be justified but I think a red card would be fine and enough.

You have a point, but players would do it more often if Ibra only gets away with a red card & fine. I think three matches (later two) also has a lot to do with Ibra's history of "violent conduct".

 

[Salvatore]

Is Ibrahimovic's little slap on a par with Dias throwing a punch?

I'd say there should be more thought given rather than just slapping everyone with a three-match ban.

That's not to say the decisions were wrong given what the rules are just now.

It can be difficult to measure how similar or different incidents like that are, given how there's only footage of the incident to base a decision on, and a lot of the time players will milk it for all it's worth. For that reason, I can understand why three games seems to be standard unless there are extreme cases.

I know the Dias and Zlatan incidents can't be compared really, but it would be tough to create rules for that sort of stuff.

It's not just our games that matter. If Milan suck ass in the other 2 games, we might be able to build a good gap between us.

I was specifically talking about the Juve match, and the possibility of the league reducing the ban to two games instead of the three.

 

[Red]

It can be difficult to measure how similar or different incidents like that are, given how there's only footage of the incident to base a decision on, and a lot of the time players will milk it for all it's worth. For that reason, I can understand why three games seems to be standard unless there are extreme cases.

I know the Dias and Zlatan incidents can't be compared really, but it would be tough to create rules for that sort of stuff.

It would difficult to write strict rules to cover all situations.

However, you could have a committee with broad guidelines making decisions while being given more discretion than they are now.

You then start working from precedents that had been set in similar previous incidents rather than really following written rules so much.

 

[Salvatore]

It would difficult to write strict rules to cover all situations.

However, you could have a committee with broad guidelines making decisions while being given more discretion than they are now.

You then start working from precedents that had been set in similar previous incidents rather than really following written rules so much.

I'd agree with that to solve the issue, including those incidents that are picked up by the camera and not the officials (as much as FIFA hate to do that) in such cases.

Would you leave other unsporting acts such as diving to the same punishment?

 

[Red]

I'd agree with that to solve the issue, including those incidents that are picked up by the camera and not the officials (as much as FIFA hate to do that) in such cases.

Would you leave other unsporting acts such as diving to the same punishment?

I don't really see there are being degrees of diving in the way there are degrees of violent conduct, so diving should be easier to legislate for.

What I don't like about the current rules on diving is that you get such a drastically different punishment if you fool the referee into giving a penalty.

A ban should also be given for fooling the ref outside the box and should be given even if the referee is not fooled by it at the time.

The player is trying to gain an advantage regardless of whether he succeeds.

 

[Salvatore]

I don't really see there are being degrees of diving in the way there are degrees of violent conduct, so diving should be easier to legislate for.

What I don't like about the current rules on diving is that you get such a drastically different punishment if you fool the referee into giving a penalty.

A ban should also be given for fooling the ref outside the box and should be given even if the referee is not fooled by it at the time.

The player is trying to gain an advantage regardless of whether he succeeds.

Indeed.

The biggest issue with all this is that FIFA don't like to undermine the referee.

 

[rounder]

Zlatan was acting like a douche.3 games should be the min penalty. Diaz should have gotten more if anything.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

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3 games suspended

 

[Alex-444]

will be 2 game ban and play vs us

 

[Fr3sh]

It's aaaaaalll good! Chiello will take care of him.

 

[ZoSo]

will be 2 game ban and play vs us

For real?

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]