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MILAN'S IBRAHIMOVIC-PATO FEUD STIRS ECHOES OF HISTORY
This week saw a huge win for Milan in their much-hyped San Siro clash against title rivals Napoli, their three goal victory serving as a real statement of intent as the season enters its final stages. However, bubbling under the surface was perhaps a fare more intriguing story as Alexandre Pato stepped out from the previously all-consuming shadow of Zlatan Ibrahimovic to steal the spotlight almost exclusively for himself.
After the Swede had opened the scoring from the penalty spot he became the supporting actor as his young Brazilian teammate took the leading role, and not only was he the main attraction he visibly - and almost nonchalantly - waved away any complaint Ibrahimovic voiced. On both the second and third goals the former Barcelona striker was ideally placed to add to Milan's tally, yet Pato deliberately chose to ignore him, firstly in waiting for Kevin-Prince Boateng to arrive and then in going alone for the final goal.
Looking upon his colleagues act in such a manner was Filippo Inzaghi, and the on-field antics of the pair must have had resonated with the 2006 World Cup winners time at Juventus. During his four years in Turin he scored numerous goals, won trophies and is fondly remembered by most fans as being the catalyst that sparked their 1997-98 Scudetto run. However his spell was not without issue and a long running feud between 'Super Pippo' and Alessandro Del Piero shares much in common with events played out this past Monday evening.
The two men could not be more different; Del Piero a classy, dignified club legend that receives world-wide admiration and respect, Inzaghi the infuriating, unloved, often criticised poacher who was 'born offside'. Calling them team-mates is a stretch given the fractious relationship between the pair.
Juventuswere without the services of the strike force that saw them lift the European Cup in 1996, with Gianluca Vialli and Fabrizio Ravanelli having moved on, closely followed by Christian Vieri a year later. They turned to Inzaghi, fresh from scoring a league best 24 goals for Atalanta. The partnership was deemed to be too lightweight from the start and doubts about their ability to play together were commonplace.
As has become a trademark of both men’s careers they would at first make a nonsense of this criticism, inspiring a team including Zinedine Zidane to another Champions League Final - Inzaghi netted 18 in Serie A and 6 in Europe while Del Pierohad arguably the best season of his career with21 league goals and was Champions League top scorer with ten. A season of proving their doubters wrong, a Scudetto won, it seemed the start of a dream pairing, but their troubles were about to begin.
First came that fateful game in November 1998 away in Udine, Del Piero injured and out of the team for over a year. When he returned it was to a very different Juventus, Marcello Lippi was gone, replaced by new coach Carlo Ancelotti. The team were already out of both the title race and Champions League, eventually gaining entry to Europe via the Intertoto Cup following a 7th place finish.
In the absence of Del Piero however Inzaghi had thrived, scoring 20 goals and carrying the team at times, becoming an important element in the team, firing them to success in that Intertoto campaign. Del Piero struggled upon his return, not finding the net from open play but the club backed him fully, allowing room to recover and Ancelotti playing him constantly in an attempt to help him regain that magic touch.
Perhaps it was here their differences truly began, with jealousy on both sides preventing the renewal of a proven partnership. The football world took notice, each shot, gesture and glance analysed in slow motion to find out the feelings of the two men. Del Piero raising his arms in desperation, waiting for a pass that would never arrive from Inzaghi, became an all too familiar sight. Seeing them in this way in the flood at Perguia on the seasons final day - Juventus would lose the title by one point - perfectly summed up their relationship at that point.
It became something of an urban legend that they never passed to each other, only to Zidane and there is plenty of evidence to back up those claims. What quickly became clear the following season was David Trezeguet was a far better fit alongside Del Piero and Inzaghi left for Milan, by then coached by Ancelotti.
Their partnership may have ended almost ten years ago but events this week conspired to link their names again, Alessandro Del Piero and Filippo Inzaghi seem to be the worst of friends or the best of enemies. The same now seems to be evident between Pato and Ibrahimovic and much like their illustrious predesscors it remains to be seen how long they are paired together.
This week saw a huge win for Milan in their much-hyped San Siro clash against title rivals Napoli, their three goal victory serving as a real statement of intent as the season enters its final stages. However, bubbling under the surface was perhaps a fare more intriguing story as Alexandre Pato stepped out from the previously all-consuming shadow of Zlatan Ibrahimovic to steal the spotlight almost exclusively for himself.
After the Swede had opened the scoring from the penalty spot he became the supporting actor as his young Brazilian teammate took the leading role, and not only was he the main attraction he visibly - and almost nonchalantly - waved away any complaint Ibrahimovic voiced. On both the second and third goals the former Barcelona striker was ideally placed to add to Milan's tally, yet Pato deliberately chose to ignore him, firstly in waiting for Kevin-Prince Boateng to arrive and then in going alone for the final goal.
Looking upon his colleagues act in such a manner was Filippo Inzaghi, and the on-field antics of the pair must have had resonated with the 2006 World Cup winners time at Juventus. During his four years in Turin he scored numerous goals, won trophies and is fondly remembered by most fans as being the catalyst that sparked their 1997-98 Scudetto run. However his spell was not without issue and a long running feud between 'Super Pippo' and Alessandro Del Piero shares much in common with events played out this past Monday evening.
The two men could not be more different; Del Piero a classy, dignified club legend that receives world-wide admiration and respect, Inzaghi the infuriating, unloved, often criticised poacher who was 'born offside'. Calling them team-mates is a stretch given the fractious relationship between the pair.
Juventuswere without the services of the strike force that saw them lift the European Cup in 1996, with Gianluca Vialli and Fabrizio Ravanelli having moved on, closely followed by Christian Vieri a year later. They turned to Inzaghi, fresh from scoring a league best 24 goals for Atalanta. The partnership was deemed to be too lightweight from the start and doubts about their ability to play together were commonplace.
As has become a trademark of both men’s careers they would at first make a nonsense of this criticism, inspiring a team including Zinedine Zidane to another Champions League Final - Inzaghi netted 18 in Serie A and 6 in Europe while Del Pierohad arguably the best season of his career with21 league goals and was Champions League top scorer with ten. A season of proving their doubters wrong, a Scudetto won, it seemed the start of a dream pairing, but their troubles were about to begin.
First came that fateful game in November 1998 away in Udine, Del Piero injured and out of the team for over a year. When he returned it was to a very different Juventus, Marcello Lippi was gone, replaced by new coach Carlo Ancelotti. The team were already out of both the title race and Champions League, eventually gaining entry to Europe via the Intertoto Cup following a 7th place finish.
In the absence of Del Piero however Inzaghi had thrived, scoring 20 goals and carrying the team at times, becoming an important element in the team, firing them to success in that Intertoto campaign. Del Piero struggled upon his return, not finding the net from open play but the club backed him fully, allowing room to recover and Ancelotti playing him constantly in an attempt to help him regain that magic touch.
Perhaps it was here their differences truly began, with jealousy on both sides preventing the renewal of a proven partnership. The football world took notice, each shot, gesture and glance analysed in slow motion to find out the feelings of the two men. Del Piero raising his arms in desperation, waiting for a pass that would never arrive from Inzaghi, became an all too familiar sight. Seeing them in this way in the flood at Perguia on the seasons final day - Juventus would lose the title by one point - perfectly summed up their relationship at that point.
It became something of an urban legend that they never passed to each other, only to Zidane and there is plenty of evidence to back up those claims. What quickly became clear the following season was David Trezeguet was a far better fit alongside Del Piero and Inzaghi left for Milan, by then coached by Ancelotti.
Their partnership may have ended almost ten years ago but events this week conspired to link their names again, Alessandro Del Piero and Filippo Inzaghi seem to be the worst of friends or the best of enemies. The same now seems to be evident between Pato and Ibrahimovic and much like their illustrious predesscors it remains to be seen how long they are paired together.
And he complains all the time whenever he doesn't reach a pass, never blaming himself and always blaming the passer. 
The writer above wants to give an impression that Pato wasn't passing to Zlatan and the Swede complained about it. That's not true. Pato was passing to Zlatan but on 2-3 occasions that pass didn't reach him and, as usual, Zlatan complained about it. He also didn't reach some other crosses and passes from Robinho, Abate etc, and he complained in the same way as he did for Pato's passes.
Too bad though. I'd have loved some serious fighting and disagreement in Milan camp.
The writer above wants to give an impression that Pato wasn't passing to Zlatan and the Swede complained about it. That's not true. Pato was passing to Zlatan but on 2-3 occasions that pass didn't reach him and, as usual, Zlatan complained about it. He also didn't reach some other crosses and passes from Robinho, Abate etc, and he complained in the same way as he did for Pato's passes.
Too bad though. I'd have loved some serious fighting and disagreement in Milan camp.
La maledizione del 10
il numero brucia campioni
Infortuni, cessioni e guai: un mito rovesciato. La crisi di Lavezzi è iniziata quando Maradona gli ha offerto la sua vecchia maglia. Dal contratto in bianco di Del Piero alle amarezze di Totti. E le genovesi se ne sono private
di FABRIZIO BOCCA
ROMA - Quello che corre e segna più di tutti ha fatto tanti di quei gol (21), che la sua maglia è la bandiera dell'Udinese. Ma Di Natale quel 10 lo portò anche ai Mondiali, ed è andata come è andata... Comunque, Di Natale all'Udinese e Sneijder all'Inter - che il 10 se lo godono tutto - sono eccezioni, perché quello stesso numero adesso brucia sulla schiena di grandi calciatori. Perché la fine della carriera è vicina o perché ne sono capitate di tutti i colori. Come se la 10 quest'anno fosse una maledizione. Alex Del Piero nel suo famoso videomessaggio diceva che, a 36 anni suonati, avrebbe firmato un contratto in bianco. Adesso alla Juve sembra l'ultimo dei problemi da affrontare.
Totti di anni ne ha 34 e un contratto con la Roma che scadrà quando ne avrà 38, ma chissà se alla fine di una stagione di troppe amarezze, gli americani lo tratteranno ancora come il re di Roma. Maurito Zarate planò come l'aquila della Lazio sull'Olimpico segnando gol su gol 2 anni fa (13). Per riscattarlo Lotito pagò all'Al Sadd in Qatar 20 milioni. Ormai fa panchina, di gol ne ha segnati appena 4, e persino i compagni lo stuzzicano. "Giocano quelli che si allenano meglio - ha detto Dias - se io mi alleno male la domenica non scendo in campo. Credo sia giusto così, e così la pensa anche Reja. Stanno giocando Sculli e Kozak perché si applicano di più". Uno scansafatiche.
Adrian Mutu, dopo squalifiche per doping, ammutinamenti, camerieri presi a pugni ed esclusioni disciplinari dalla rosa, è tornato a disposizione di Mihajlovic, ma non ha cambiato le sorti della Fiorentina: 5 partite di cui 4 da titolare, e giusto la vittoria di Palermo, ma nemmeno un gol. Fabrizio Miccoli dopo gravi infortuni e una scena che gli stava rubando Pastore si era ripreso il suo posto al Palermo, ma i gol che pure è riuscito a segnare non hanno evitato i rovesci e la favola siciliana si è fatta amara.
Nel Milan il 10 è di Clarence Seedorf che pure inizialmente aveva giocato abbastanza ma ora la concorrenza di Robinho, Cassano e Boateng lo ha messo in difficoltà. Dopo 9 campionati col Milan si ritrova a 35 anni con un contratto in scadenza: l'addio è vicino.
Le due genovesi il 10 se lo sono venduto: il Genoa ha dato Palladino al Parma e la Samp ha dato Pazzini all'Inter. Due club la maglia numero 10 l'hanno ritirata. Non appena Maradona ha detto che al Napoli era giusto darla a Lavezzi, ecco la storia degli sputi e della squalifica per tre partite (Milan compreso). Anche il Brescia ha ritirato la 10 di Baggio: magari l'avrebbe indossata l'estroso Diamanti, impegnato nell'evitare la retrocessione.
E infine l'ultimo 10, dentro l'ultima della classifica: il Bari. Paulo Vitor Barreto è infortunato da mesi, doveva scappare alla Fiorentina ma non se ne fece nulla, un giallo. In ogni caso lui in B non ci andrà. Ieri ha detto: "Non accelererò i tempi del rientro. Se avere degli obbiettivi nella vita significa essere mercenari, beh allora tutti siamo mercenari".
short translation:
except sneijder and di natale, the number 10 brought only bad luck and infortune for the players that have the number
-del piero, he said he'll sign the contract in blank but agnelli said that's the last thing that will be resolved right now
-totti, he's 34 and has a contract 'till 38, but he had a year full of dissapointments, only the americans see him the king of rome
-zarate scored 13 goals.....2 seasons ago..right now he's warming the bench
-mutu after all the scandals, drugs and trainings missed he's back in the team but didn't changed much
-miccoli after dealing with some serious injuries is passing through a rough season
-seedorf is #10 at milan but he has some serious competition: robinho, cassano and kevin prince boateng are making a hard time and he's considering a departure
-genoa had palladino, they gave him to parma and doria sold pazzini to inter. selling pazzini brought protests from the fans and both teams don't have a number 10 right now.
-napoli withdrawed the number 10 shirt after maradona's departure but maradona said he would give the shirt to lavezzi
-brescia has the same issue as napoli because of robi baggio
-baretto from bari has been injured for months
il numero brucia campioni
Infortuni, cessioni e guai: un mito rovesciato. La crisi di Lavezzi è iniziata quando Maradona gli ha offerto la sua vecchia maglia. Dal contratto in bianco di Del Piero alle amarezze di Totti. E le genovesi se ne sono private
di FABRIZIO BOCCA
ROMA - Quello che corre e segna più di tutti ha fatto tanti di quei gol (21), che la sua maglia è la bandiera dell'Udinese. Ma Di Natale quel 10 lo portò anche ai Mondiali, ed è andata come è andata... Comunque, Di Natale all'Udinese e Sneijder all'Inter - che il 10 se lo godono tutto - sono eccezioni, perché quello stesso numero adesso brucia sulla schiena di grandi calciatori. Perché la fine della carriera è vicina o perché ne sono capitate di tutti i colori. Come se la 10 quest'anno fosse una maledizione. Alex Del Piero nel suo famoso videomessaggio diceva che, a 36 anni suonati, avrebbe firmato un contratto in bianco. Adesso alla Juve sembra l'ultimo dei problemi da affrontare.
Totti di anni ne ha 34 e un contratto con la Roma che scadrà quando ne avrà 38, ma chissà se alla fine di una stagione di troppe amarezze, gli americani lo tratteranno ancora come il re di Roma. Maurito Zarate planò come l'aquila della Lazio sull'Olimpico segnando gol su gol 2 anni fa (13). Per riscattarlo Lotito pagò all'Al Sadd in Qatar 20 milioni. Ormai fa panchina, di gol ne ha segnati appena 4, e persino i compagni lo stuzzicano. "Giocano quelli che si allenano meglio - ha detto Dias - se io mi alleno male la domenica non scendo in campo. Credo sia giusto così, e così la pensa anche Reja. Stanno giocando Sculli e Kozak perché si applicano di più". Uno scansafatiche.
Adrian Mutu, dopo squalifiche per doping, ammutinamenti, camerieri presi a pugni ed esclusioni disciplinari dalla rosa, è tornato a disposizione di Mihajlovic, ma non ha cambiato le sorti della Fiorentina: 5 partite di cui 4 da titolare, e giusto la vittoria di Palermo, ma nemmeno un gol. Fabrizio Miccoli dopo gravi infortuni e una scena che gli stava rubando Pastore si era ripreso il suo posto al Palermo, ma i gol che pure è riuscito a segnare non hanno evitato i rovesci e la favola siciliana si è fatta amara.
Nel Milan il 10 è di Clarence Seedorf che pure inizialmente aveva giocato abbastanza ma ora la concorrenza di Robinho, Cassano e Boateng lo ha messo in difficoltà. Dopo 9 campionati col Milan si ritrova a 35 anni con un contratto in scadenza: l'addio è vicino.
Le due genovesi il 10 se lo sono venduto: il Genoa ha dato Palladino al Parma e la Samp ha dato Pazzini all'Inter. Due club la maglia numero 10 l'hanno ritirata. Non appena Maradona ha detto che al Napoli era giusto darla a Lavezzi, ecco la storia degli sputi e della squalifica per tre partite (Milan compreso). Anche il Brescia ha ritirato la 10 di Baggio: magari l'avrebbe indossata l'estroso Diamanti, impegnato nell'evitare la retrocessione.
E infine l'ultimo 10, dentro l'ultima della classifica: il Bari. Paulo Vitor Barreto è infortunato da mesi, doveva scappare alla Fiorentina ma non se ne fece nulla, un giallo. In ogni caso lui in B non ci andrà. Ieri ha detto: "Non accelererò i tempi del rientro. Se avere degli obbiettivi nella vita significa essere mercenari, beh allora tutti siamo mercenari".
short translation:
except sneijder and di natale, the number 10 brought only bad luck and infortune for the players that have the number
-del piero, he said he'll sign the contract in blank but agnelli said that's the last thing that will be resolved right now
-totti, he's 34 and has a contract 'till 38, but he had a year full of dissapointments, only the americans see him the king of rome
-zarate scored 13 goals.....2 seasons ago..right now he's warming the bench
-mutu after all the scandals, drugs and trainings missed he's back in the team but didn't changed much
-miccoli after dealing with some serious injuries is passing through a rough season
-seedorf is #10 at milan but he has some serious competition: robinho, cassano and kevin prince boateng are making a hard time and he's considering a departure
-genoa had palladino, they gave him to parma and doria sold pazzini to inter. selling pazzini brought protests from the fans and both teams don't have a number 10 right now.
-napoli withdrawed the number 10 shirt after maradona's departure but maradona said he would give the shirt to lavezzi
-brescia has the same issue as napoli because of robi baggio
-baretto from bari has been injured for months
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