Henry wasn't banned. Why didn't FIGC ban De Rossi for faking the penalty in WC against New Zealand? Hypocrites
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But seriously, someone explain me this crap. If a player dives gets a yellow card if the referee saw it, then how come it turns to two match ban if the referee missed it? Then shouldn't referee show straight red card if he cought the player diving? 
), I will repeat the conclusions: You can't give just a yellow card to someone who dived and won a penalty because the player won't even care about that yellow when he won a penalty. If you give a 2 match ban for players who managed to trick the ref, then you make it a lose-lose situation for the player. His choices are: dive and win a yellow or dive and get two match ban.
You're discouraging the diving. If yellow card is the only punishment, then everyone will take the risk and dive because he knows he won't get anything more severe than a yellow card.
"Handling the ball cannot be regarded as a serious infringement as stipulated in the Fifa disciplinary code," said a Fifa statement.
"There is no other legal text that would allow the committee to impose sanctions for any incidents missed by match officials."
Sounds hilarious indeed. If I'm not wrong, serie A are the only ones from the big leagues punishing actions missed by the match officials? Or not?
"There is no other legal text that would allow the committee to impose sanctions for any incidents missed by match officials."
Sounds hilarious indeed. If I'm not wrong, serie A are the only ones from the big leagues punishing actions missed by the match officials? Or not?
Lol, since you weren't here in the last months and during the discussion about Krasic's ban (you still didn't tell us where were you and why did you leave ), I will repeat the conclusions:
You can't give just a yellow card to someone who dived and won a penalty because the player won't even care about that yellow when he won a penalty. If you give a 2 match ban for players who managed to trick the ref, then you make it a lose-lose situation for the player. His choices are: dive and win a yellow or dive and get two match ban.
You're discouraging the diving. If yellow card is the only punishment, then everyone will take the risk and dive because he knows he won't get anything more severe than a yellow card.
), I will repeat the conclusions: You can't give just a yellow card to someone who dived and won a penalty because the player won't even care about that yellow when he won a penalty. If you give a 2 match ban for players who managed to trick the ref, then you make it a lose-lose situation for the player. His choices are: dive and win a yellow or dive and get two match ban.
You're discouraging the diving. If yellow card is the only punishment, then everyone will take the risk and dive because he knows he won't get anything more severe than a yellow card.
So FIFA should discourage the diving by two match ban? Then if the referee see the diving, he should give a straight red card, in other words, two match ban. This is what I am talking about, not the period of ban, or the color o the card. All I am saying is if a player should be banned for diving, then it should be done if the referee sees it or not, which means, if the referee sees the player diving, he should show red card too and not yellow..
Not to forget, there are sometimes incidents that happens a lot, player drops himself in the box, but referees makes a "stand up" gesture with his hand with sarcasm, when the player complains, why that isn't being punished too anyway, if there referee knows there is no foul?
FIFA rules are pathetic..
FIFA rules are pathetic..
Oh and let's say the player admitted to the referee that the incident wasn't a penalty, will the referee change his decision?
Fowler's incident comes to mind (years back) when he was at Liverpool. And I remember something like this happened in the world cup, when assistant referee saw from the TV in the stand that the decision the referee gave was wrong, he told the referee but nothing was changed..
Fowler's incident comes to mind (years back) when he was at Liverpool. And I remember something like this happened in the world cup, when assistant referee saw from the TV in the stand that the decision the referee gave was wrong, he told the referee but nothing was changed..
I'm not sure I fully agree with that logic though. That's a little like saying you judge a hate crime after the fact following a genetic test for race the of the victim. Outcomes are well after the incident, and judging them purely on the final score is a bit like saying there was no point in playing the minutes that followed the incident.
Teams get harsh calls from time-to-time, and its up to them to overcome them. It's not manifest destiny just because the other team gets awarded a penalty.
Teams get harsh calls from time-to-time, and its up to them to overcome them. It's not manifest destiny just because the other team gets awarded a penalty.
That's what I wanted to say (that if I understood you right, excuse my poor English).
Results shouldn't be mixed with the rules, it makes them more complicated. The actions should be punished no matter what the results are. A player fakes, dives or scores/try to score with hand, the punishments should be the same, whether the referee sees it or not. Referee's mistake is playing a huge role in the punishment, which is very wrong. If fifa doesn't want to introduce video technology into the game, then it shouldn't use that technology for punishing players after the game as well.
Sadly..
Results shouldn't be mixed with the rules, it makes them more complicated. The actions should be punished no matter what the results are. A player fakes, dives or scores/try to score with hand, the punishments should be the same, whether the referee sees it or not. Referee's mistake is playing a huge role in the punishment, which is very wrong. If fifa doesn't want to introduce video technology into the game, then it shouldn't use that technology for punishing players after the game as well.
Sadly..
FIFA's rules are unbelievable, and I can't understand how the clubs are silent about them. If the rules were perfect, no one would doubt about anything, the only way to make it close to perfect is introducing the video technology.
I laugh it hard on their answer about the technology, "Video technology will slow down the game", who are they kidding? The match can go on, and an extra referee can sit in front of a TV and see replays, if he sees something important, then he should interfere and acknowledge the main referee, how would that slow down the game? Isn't that much better than their mistakes which affect the match score.
England's goal against Germany for example (world cup), while the match was going on, the other referee could tell the main referee that the goal was valid..
Video technology is a must!
I laugh it hard on their answer about the technology, "Video technology will slow down the game", who are they kidding? The match can go on, and an extra referee can sit in front of a TV and see replays, if he sees something important, then he should interfere and acknowledge the main referee, how would that slow down the game? Isn't that much better than their mistakes which affect the match score.
England's goal against Germany for example (world cup), while the match was going on, the other referee could tell the main referee that the goal was valid..
Video technology is a must!
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