[ITA] Serie A 2010/2011 (37 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Complete? Dude, he had one great season and other than that he was pretty average. He makes tons of passing, yeah...look how they do it - Pizarro - De Rossi ; De Rossi - Pizarro ...repeat ten times. His passing isn't anything to brag about. He makes tons of mistakes in midfield and he's not good at taking ball back. He's not even a close player compared to what he was 4 years ago. Now he's just a good midfielder.

 

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[Ken]

That would also make Pizzaro's passing nothing to brag about though.


I do believe some people overrate Pizarro a bit on here.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Pizarro's passing and vision is much better than De Rossi's and yeah, Pizarro offers a lot to Roma than De Rossi.

Pizarro has been the best deep lying playmaker in Serie A since his Udine days. Along side with Pirlo of course. But over the last 2 years I believe Pizarro offered much more than Andrea.

 

[Dominic]

Complete? Dude, he had one great season and other than that he was pretty average. He makes tons of passing, yeah...look how they do it - Pizarro - De Rossi ; De Rossi - Pizarro ...repeat ten times. His passing isn't anything to brag about. He makes tons of mistakes in midfield and he's not good at taking ball back. He's not even a close player compared to what he was 4 years ago. Now he's just a good midfielder.

Pizarro's passing and vision is much better than De Rossi's and yeah, Pizarro offers a lot to Roma than De Rossi.

Pizarro has been the best deep lying playmaker in Serie A since his Udine days. Along side with Pirlo of course. But over the last 2 years I believe Pizarro offered much more than Andrea.

Yes Pizarro has a better pass than De Rossi has, but that's all. Pizarro could never do what De Rossi can. Pizarro can play so freely, because De Rossi allows him too. De Rossi, by being so complete, can adapt and cover and play reserved. Ability-wise he is still up there, you can see it in every touch. Remember, De Rossi started as a high central midfielder.

Roma's midfield would fall about without De Rossi. The team would lose all its function and structure.

You are blaming De Rossi for what you're praising Pizarro for - one good season. Pizarro last season was his finest, by far. Before that, he was mistake-prone and often a ghost. Like I said, Aquilani was his superiour by far. Pizarro the best playmaker since udine days? He was a ghost at Inter as well..

 

[Seven]

Dominic,

people diss De Rossi because he's De Rossi.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yes Pizarro has a better pass than De Rossi has, but that's all. Pizarro could never do what De Rossi can. Pizarro can play so freely, because De Rossi allows him too. De Rossi, by being so complete, can adapt and cover and play reserved. Ability-wise he is still up there, you can see it in every touch. Remember, De Rossi started as a high central midfielder.

Roma's midfield would fall about without De Rossi. The team would lose all its function and structure.

You are blaming De Rossi for what you're praising Pizarro for - one good season. Pizarro last season was his finest, by far. Before that, he was mistake-prone and often a ghost. Like I said, Aquilani was his superiour by far. Pizarro the best playmaker since udine days? He was a ghost at Inter as well..

Everything De Rossi does is being overhyped. IMO he looks decent and no way good enough to play for a top club right now. It would fall apart and you know why? Because they'd have to play Brighi or even Taddei on that place. They'd profit if they sell him for good money and it'd be very easy to sign a player that can do his current job. Hell, I've been watching Roma and Juve mostly over the last 7 years...a lot. When you look at their seasons overall I'm pretty sure Pizarro is the one who played a lot better and who offered a lot. He wasn't a ghost at Inter because every time he played he did good. He was benched most of the time, though.

As for your part : De Rossi started as a high central midfielder

It's their biggest mistake when they gave him much defensive role and since then he never showed ANYTHING that a top player offers. His old play was much, much better. It's when he played offensive like Aquilani but he also played on the left side. Back then he was also skinny and he used to use his speed more. His transformation into a typical DM/MC went wrong IMO. Roma's midfield would suck much more without Pizarro than with Daniele.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Dominic,

people diss De Rossi because he's De Rossi.

Care to explain?

It's not people, I think it's only me. And I'm willing to listen arguments.

You think I'm saying that because he's Italian? Or because he's rivals player? Well, it has nothing to do with it. If you think it's that, then again, fine.

And him being the next legend? That's a joke. Nobody will come close to Totti when it comes to their club legend.

 

[JuveJay]

De Rossi is world class and one average season doesn't change that, Alex Ferguson has wanted him at Man Utd for 4-5 years and would sign him in a second given the chance.

 

[Seven]

Care to explain?

It's not people, I think it's only me. And I'm willing to listen arguments.

You think I'm saying that because he's Italian? Or because he's rivals player? Well, it has nothing to do with it. If you think it's that, then again, fine.

And him being the next legend? That's a joke. Nobody will come close to Totti when it comes to their club legend.

I wasn't really talking about you. I think you're genuine. I think you're wrong, but I think you mean what you say.

But most people on this forum (which is what Dom was talking about originally) just hate him because he's so Roman and therefore fail to see his talent. Same goes for Totti, who all in all shows a lot of heart and IMO is a player to admire.

 

[Dostoevsky]

De Rossi is world class and one average season doesn't change that, Alex Ferguson has wanted him at Man Utd for 4-5 years and would sign him in a second given the chance.

lol

No, it's actually one great season and 5 average ones.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I wasn't really talking about you. I think you're genuine. I think you're wrong, but I think you mean what you say.

But most people on this forum (which is what Dom was talking about originally) just hate him because he's so Roman and therefore fail to see his talent. Same goes for Totti, who all in all shows a lot of heart and IMO is a player to admire.

Well I don't really care what people say about my opinion. I know it's mine and it's not like I don't make mistakes. I do bash Del Piero sometimes, but he's surely one of my fav player of all time. I still avoid to be biased when it comes to him.

People label me as a Romanista lol. I don't blame them because I see why. I do have a close up on them and they don't irritate me. I'm not biased when it comes to that. When I was a kid (it's not like I'm 40yo now) my favorite players by far were Del Piero and Totti and it's gonna be sad when they both retire. True legends.
I used to enjoy watching Totti - Cassano duo and Batistuta. Still, I'm not ditching Italians nor rivals players.

It's not like I think De Rossi is shit, by I do think he's not even close to what people describe him.

 

[JuveJay]

lol

No, it's actually one great season and 5 average ones.

Sure.

 

[Alen]

I look at our starting XI with Aquilani in it and I see that the team would have been eligible to play in serie A even in the 1980's when only 2 foreigners were allowed.

No wonder we still play like it's 1987.

We're the below average Italian NT minus their most talented players. We're New Zealand+EU passports.

8th place in serie A and keep falling down until they get rid of this fetish for the inferior Azzurri.

 

[JCK]

I look at our starting XI with Aquilani in it and I see that the team would have been eligible to play in serie A even in the 1980's when only 2 foreigners were allowed.

No wonder we still play like it's 1987.

We're the below average Italian NT minus their most talented players. We're New Zealand+EU passports.

8th place in serie A and keep falling down until they get rid of this fetish for the inferior Azzurri.

Come on! Our team is not that bad.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Storari/Buffon

De Ceglie, Grosso, Bonucci, Chiellini, Legro, Motta, Marchisio, Aquilani, Pepe, Lanzafame, Camo, Del Piero, Amauri, Iaquinta

Surely nobody got so many NT players in their squad? Maybe Barca has Spanish players but at least they are WC winners. We're exaggerating and it will destroy us. It's not like this is 2006 Italy.

 

[Alen]

Come on! Our team is not that bad.

Maybe, but we are indeed the Azzurri, without their best players. If Marchisio or Aquilani make the azzurri starting XI, this is how they'll play (judging from Prandelli's first match)

Buffon
Motta-Bonucci-Chiellini-Molinaro
De Rossi-Aquilani/Marchisio
Pepe-Cassano-Balotelli
Amauri​

De Ceglie instead of Molinaro
Marchisio instead of De Rossi
Diego instead of Cassano
Krasic instead of Balotelli.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Not even to mention that we'll buy two more where at least one will be Italian. Barzazgli, Bocchetti?

 

[Salvatore]

I don't see what's the problem? It's not like we've actively gone out to buy shitty Italian players. The ones we purchased have qualities which the team needs.

Storari
Bonucci
Motta
Aquilani
Pepe
Lanzafame

It's some of the players we had originally that I'm concerned about out of that group.

 

[JCK]

Maybe, but we are indeed the Azzurri, without their best players. If Marchisio or Aquilani make the azzurri starting XI, this is how they'll play (judging from Prandelli's first match)

Buffon
Motta-Bonucci-Chiellini-Molinaro
De Rossi-Aquilani/Marchisio
Pepe-Cassano-Balotelli
Amauri​

De Ceglie instead of Molinaro
Marchisio instead of De Rossi
Diego instead of Cassano
Krasic instead of Balotelli.

We are the Azzurri and I don't like that but we are not that bad as you described us to be. Seriously now, are you expecting us to end up in 8th place? Because if that's the case I'll consider you a new Cronios, an even more vicious Cronios.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yeah, Alen exaggerates