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    icεmαή;2641760 said:
    And what is Amauri good at? Scoring goals doesn't happen to be his forte. He's good at holding the ball down, I'll give you that. Other than that he's being pretty poor for us. When he plays at the top of his form I agree he looks like a beast. But when Iaquinta plays at the top of his form he also looks like a great finisher. What Iaquinta offers up top is movement. None of our other strikers gives us that. He scores goals when need too. Agreed he wastes a million chances :p But Amauri isn't that better at putting away chances either.
    Iaquinta is a dynamic striker but he's not covering a lot of the pitch. It's two different things.

    Iaquinta doesn't have top of his form, he's just one weird player. I don't honestly think he's better at anything over Amauri. Well, maybe penalties but I'm not even sure about that.

    He's strong but Amauri is not weaker
    His technique is nothing but decent
    He jumps like my grandmother so he's not shining in the air either
    His shot out of the box is weak
    His finishing is hilarious (yes, Amauri misses a lot but I don't think he's a worse finisher)
    He has no vision whatsoever and can't do ANYTHING when it comes to one-on-one with some player

    Oh yeah, he's injury prone too.

    But who cares, he's Italian so let's keep him :juventus:

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    Suns

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    You forgot to mention that he scores more than Amauri, with twice less playing time.
    :lol:

    Iaquinta is ok, I like the fact that he can run all game and like to track back. Also, he's loyal and has no problems in being considered our 4th striker.
     
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    Yes, he scored one goal more than Amauri, 2 years ago...with less playing time.

    My point stands still - not a single thing he's good at. Well, he does look like a hardworker, I'll give you that.
     

    Alen

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    Yes, he scored one goal more than Amauri, 2 years ago...with less playing time.

    My point stands still - not a single thing he's good at. Well, he does look like a hardworker, I'll give you that.
    Iaquinta - Amauri (Minutes-Goals-Assists)

    3650 - 5801
    22 - 21
    8 - 6

    Amauri played 2 151 minutes more than Iaquinta (roughly 24 matches more). Yet he scored less and assisted less. This is for their time together in Juve in the last 2 seasons.

    That Iaquinta is a limited player, it's not arguable, he indeed is. That he's getting injured a lot lately, is not arguable. It's also not arguable that this might be the last chance to sell him and earn something on him, since he's 31 now. But it's strange how superior is Amauri made to look when in reality Iaquinta was more useful to Juve in both seasons these two played together.
    Actually, I'd say that Iaquinta is perhaps the only, or one of the 2-3 post-Calciopoli transfers, that didn't fail. The man even cost us twice less than Amauri.
    He's bashed too much and he's the last one who deserves the bashing. He accepted the bench, always there to help and even save the day and unlike most of the players, Iaquinta was always giving 100%. We should at least respect that.
    We are not doing that. Some hardly wait for an opportunity to bash the dude.
     

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    icεmαή;2641753 said:
    Only because he's Italian :disagree:
    Why is Amauri better than Iaquinta? Iaquinta has scored more goals at Juventus and throughout his career than Amauri has. The only reason I'd consider selling Iaquinta over Amauri is his injuries.
    Iaquinta has done better for Juventus than Amauri has. I also like him better. But for some reason I don't see him succeeding next year. Amauri needs to stay because of his strength in the box.
     

    Seven

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    Iaquinta - Amauri (Minutes-Goals-Assists)

    3650 - 5801
    22 - 21
    8 - 6

    Amauri played 2 151 minutes more than Iaquinta (roughly 24 matches more). Yet he scored less and assisted less. This is for their time together in Juve in the last 2 seasons.

    That Iaquinta is a limited player, it's not arguable, he indeed is. That he's getting injured a lot lately, is not arguable. It's also not arguable that this might be the last chance to sell him and earn something on him, since he's 31 now. But it's strange how superior is Amauri made to look when in reality Iaquinta was more useful to Juve in both seasons these two played together.
    Actually, I'd say that Iaquinta is perhaps the only, or one of the 2-3 post-Calciopoli transfers, that didn't fail. The man even cost us twice less than Amauri.
    He's bashed too much and he's the last one who deserves the bashing. He accepted the bench, always there to help and even save the day and unlike most of the players, Iaquinta was always giving 100%. We should at least respect that.
    We are not doing that. Some hardly wait for an opportunity to bash the dude.
    Amauri's vastly inferior. Or at least has been so far. And Vincenzo has been our must underrated player for quite a while now. But for tactical reasons I prefer Amauri to stay.
     

    Alen

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    Amauri's vastly inferior. Or at least has been so far. And Vincenzo has been our must underrated player for quite a while now. But for tactical reasons I prefer Amauri to stay.
    If you carefully look at the names in our squad, you'll ask yourself: "Where will the goals come from?"

    Neither of Amauri and Iaquinta offers goals and since Del Piero doesn't seem to be a starter anymore, we can't expect ~20 goals even from the SS position.

    Right now I too choose Amauri ahead of Iaquinta, but I also understand why was Juve after Dzeko and I disagree with those who thought that we need players for 3-4 other positions before we start looking for a striker. This Juve desperately needs someone who scores a lot. Trez and Ale were scoring ~40-50 goals per season. Diego-Amauri or Diego-Iaquinta score less than double what Trez-Ale were scoring.
    Oh, and our midfielders/wingers were scoring too 2-3 years ago. How much do we expect Pepe, Lanza, Marchisio, Melo and Sissoko to score?
     

    icemaη

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    Iaquinta is a dynamic striker but he's not covering a lot of the pitch. It's two different things.

    Iaquinta doesn't have top of his form, he's just one weird player. I don't honestly think he's better at anything over Amauri. Well, maybe penalties but I'm not even sure about that.

    He's strong but Amauri is not weaker
    His technique is nothing but decent
    He jumps like my grandmother so he's not shining in the air either
    His shot out of the box is weak
    His finishing is hilarious (yes, Amauri misses a lot but I don't think he's a worse finisher)
    He has no vision whatsoever and can't do ANYTHING when it comes to one-on-one with some player

    Oh yeah, he's injury prone too.

    But who cares, he's Italian so let's keep him :juventus:

    :tdown:
    You forgot to mention that he scores more than Amauri, with twice less playing time.
    Iaquinta - Amauri (Minutes-Goals-Assists)

    3650 - 5801
    22 - 21
    8 - 6

    Amauri played 2 151 minutes more than Iaquinta (roughly 24 matches more). Yet he scored less and assisted less. This is for their time together in Juve in the last 2 seasons.

    That Iaquinta is a limited player, it's not arguable, he indeed is. That he's getting injured a lot lately, is not arguable. It's also not arguable that this might be the last chance to sell him and earn something on him, since he's 31 now. But it's strange how superior is Amauri made to look when in reality Iaquinta was more useful to Juve in both seasons these two played together.
    Actually, I'd say that Iaquinta is perhaps the only, or one of the 2-3 post-Calciopoli transfers, that didn't fail. The man even cost us twice less than Amauri.
    He's bashed too much and he's the last one who deserves the bashing. He accepted the bench, always there to help and even save the day and unlike most of the players, Iaquinta was always giving 100%. We should at least respect that.
    We are not doing that. Some hardly wait for an opportunity to bash the dude.
    Thats all I wanted to say.

    If Amauri is better than Iaquinta, he has hardly ever shown it with results.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Mar 16, 2004
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    If you carefully look at the names in our squad, you'll ask yourself: "Where will the goals come from?"

    Neither of Amauri and Iaquinta offers goals and since Del Piero doesn't seem to be a starter anymore, we can't expect ~20 goals even from the SS position.

    Right now I too choose Amauri ahead of Iaquinta, but I also understand why was Juve after Dzeko and I disagree with those who thought that we need players for 3-4 other positions before we start looking for a striker. This Juve desperately needs someone who scores a lot. Trez and Ale were scoring ~40-50 goals per season. Diego-Amauri or Diego-Iaquinta score less than double what Trez-Ale were scoring.
    Oh, and our midfielders/wingers were scoring too 2-3 years ago. How much do we expect Pepe, Lanza, Marchisio, Melo and Sissoko to score?
    We certainly need to score goals, but the problem is I don't see the creativity or the quality in the side that will create those chances for Dzeko. When Alex or Trez were scoring goals we still struggled to create chances in the static systems we ran under Capello and Ranieri, but at least guys like Pavel and Camo could deliver some clutch crosses. They had quality, but guys like Pepe and Martinez do not, and that's the difference.
     
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