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Alen

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I don't Inter are going to get affected by this in Italy. As they are still the strongest team in Italy and should be able to win it without too much trouble. However, in Europe I think they will struggle. The reason why Inter won the C.L this year was mainly due to Mourinho's brilliance in reading and preparing the game. I don't think Benitez can emulate what Mourinho did or even come close for that matter.
Still, the guy took Liverpool to two CL finals in the last 6 years and that Liverpool was, imo, even weaker than Inter. At least it wasn't one of the favorites to win the CL.
That says that he too did a good job, either with motivating the players or, which is more probable, with reading and preparing the game.
 

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Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Still, the guy took Liverpool to two CL finals in the last 6 years and that Liverpool was, imo, even weaker than Inter. At least it wasn't one of the favorites to win the CL.
That says that he too did a good job, either with motivating the players or, which is more probable, with reading and preparing the game.
Rafa does not really strike me as a motivator either :D.
 

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Gerrard dragged them up from nothing in the 2005 final, one of those nothing to lose situations as they had 'lost' the game by half time, but the other victories were from his organisation and by getting a couple of breaks that most teams need to win a competition/get to a final. I think that Liverpool have been sussed out a bit since then, but they were generally still hard to beat because of how they set up.
 

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Still, the guy took Liverpool to two CL finals in the last 6 years and that Liverpool was, imo, even weaker than Inter. At least it wasn't one of the favorites to win the CL.
That says that he too did a good job, either with motivating the players or, which is more probable, with reading and preparing the game.
Semis and the Quarters.
 

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I'm not arguing your point, just find it incredible because it's Benitez. The guy sells and buys 30 players annually.
At Liverpool he had to sell to buy under Hicks and Gillette. That won't be the case with Inter. He also won't have to acquire 3 free transfers every season in hopes that one pans out and the rest can be sold for profit.
 

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Jun 13, 2007
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Still, the guy took Liverpool to two CL finals in the last 6 years and that Liverpool was, imo, even weaker than Inter. At least it wasn't one of the favorites to win the CL.
That says that he too did a good job, either with motivating the players or, which is more probable, with reading and preparing the game.
Oh, definitely. I'm not saying Benitez isn't good at reading games, I just don't think he's anywhere close to Mourinho's level. It's true He got Liverpool to two C.l finals but here's what he failed to do. In both years where Liverpool went to the final, no one was convinced that Liverpool was the best team in Europe. In other words, he wasn't convincing. Granted, Liverpool did not by any means have the most impressive squad in Europe, but I would say that they were better than Mouri's Porto, don't you think.

Now even though Benitez has somewhat proven himself to be a good tactician; he hasn't come close to proving he's the best. Liverpool made it to the finals was thanks to their players playing above their respective levels. For me, a coach is a great tactician and a great reader of the game when he has the ability to absolutely shut down the opposing team. Benitez would make it to the final after conceding around 4 goals in total on aggregate. And then he would concede another two or three in the final.

For me, you have to be great defensively to be called a great tactician. That's what Benitez' liverpool lacked the last few years.
 

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Gerrard dragged them up from nothing in the 2005 final, one of those nothing to lose situations as they had 'lost' the game by half time, but the other victories were from his organisation and by getting a couple of breaks that most teams need to win a competition/get to a final. I think that Liverpool have been sussed out a bit since then, but they were generally still hard to beat because of how they set up.
What about the Didi Hamman sub to take Kaka out of the game and the switch to 3 defenders at the back?
 

JuveJay

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What about the Didi Hamman sub to take Kaka out of the game and the switch to 3 defenders at the back?
I think there was no option but to say to go for it and hope it was enough, there was no other tactic at 0-3 down, it wasn't a masterstroke. Hamann was just a bit of insurance for the counter attacks, just about worked. That's where managers get credit after all, when it comes off.
 

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I think there was no option but to say to go for it and hope it was enough, there was no other tactic at 0-3 down, it wasn't a masterstroke. Hamann was just a bit of insurance for the counter attacks, just about worked. That's where managers get credit after all, when it comes off.
He took Kaka out of the match and shut down Milan's attack. This allowed Liverpool to hold possession for most of the second half. If you don't have the ball, you don't score. Fairly good move in my book.
 

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Meh. Many coaches would add a striker and keep 4 men at the back. Rafa played it right, there have been times when he hasn't. For the most part he's gotten positive results. It's a shame so many on this forum downplay his accomplishment simply out of spite.
 

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Oh for the love of God. Are you people seriously giving credit to Rafa after the win against Milan? They scored 3 goals in 6 minutes, it was a freak disaster that just happened to strike at the right time for Liverpool. Milan just completyely lost concentration and for 6 minutes everything went against them.

If there is ever a time in the history of football where credit should not go to the coach; it's in times like these.
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Russian site Serie-a.ru ranked the 10 worst signings this year.(from 10 to 1 - 1 is the worst)

guess who they picked to top 3?

1.Diego to Juve.
2.Melo to Juve.
3.Grosso to Juve
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4.Onyewu to Milan.
5.Amelia to Genoa.
6.Lucarelli to Livorno.
7.Quaresma to Inter.
8.Eliseu to Lazio.
9.Hunter to Milan.
10.Crespo to Genoa.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Russian site Serie-a.ru ranked the 10 worst signings this year.(from 10 to 1 - 1 is the worst)

guess who they picked to top 3?

1.Diego to Juve.
2.Melo to Juve.
3.Grosso to Juve
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4.Onyewu to Milan.
5.Amelia to Genoa.
6.Lucarelli to Livorno.
7.Quaresma to Inter.
8.Eliseu to Lazio.
9.Hunter to Milan.
10.Crespo to Genoa.
Diego's signing is worse than Quaresma's and Huntelaar's. That list is just :sergio:.
 

cimenk

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I can not imagine Benitez taking over a club and having a modest transfer campaign. That's probably the reason he left Liverpool. :D
I can see how Inter squad already fit with 4-2-3-1 Benitez usually play in Liverpool. They still also have several fringe players that not used much in Mourinho days that can be fit into his plan. a Winger like Mancini and Quaresma can revive as Benitez play with 2 wingers in Pool.. or he can still opt to play Eto'o and Pandev on the wing like Mourinho did. for Gerrard position in AM C they already have Sneijder.. The only missing part is the good ball passer and deep playmaker like Xabi, but he already have several CM that can play in there alongside Cambiasso, there Motta, Muntari, Mariga

On paper, this team is better than what he have in Liverpool
 
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