Israeli-Palestinian conflict (124 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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This is a different argument, but it misses the point.

The issue was never that Israel defended itself. It's the extreme callousness towards the suffering of civilians in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.

It's the sort of callousness that really one only displays if he considers the other worthless. And that's precisely what this entire thing is about: Israel thinks of its neighbours as Untermenschen.
The feeling is mutual , right?
Remeber " From the river to the sea!"!
The only problem is that one side is more advanced . If the tables were turned you think that the Palestinians wouldn't whipe out the jews from the face of the earth?
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,332
The feeling is mutual , right?
Remeber " From the river to the sea!"!
The only problem is that one side is more advanced . If the tables were turned you think that the Palestinians wouldn't whipe out the jews from the face of the earth?
It's mutual between the Israeli government and Hamas and Hezbollah. I'm not convinced the average Palestinian or Israeli citizen shares the sentiment.

But even so the fact Hamas or Hezbollah aren't as powerful kind of makes it a moot point. Israel's killing of civilians vastly outnumbers whatever Hamas or Hezbollah have done at this point.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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It's mutual between the Israeli government and Hamas and Hezbollah. I'm not convinced the average Palestinian or Israeli citizen shares the sentiment.

But even so the fact Hamas or Hezbollah aren't as powerful kind of makes it a moot point. Israel's killing of civilians vastly outnumbers whatever Hamas or Hezbollah have done at this point.
I find you excusing what 70% or 80% population support laughable.
Just look in this thread. There are 35% of former or present members that do not find Hamas a terrorist organization.
If I extrapolate the muslim members it's probably 80 - 90% that think they are some kind of "freedom fighters".
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,332
I find you excusing what 70% or 80% population support laughable.
Just look in this thread. There are 35% of former or present members that do not find Hamas a terrorist organization.
If I extrapolate the muslim members it's probably 80 - 90% that think they are some kind of "freedom fighters".
I'm not excusing anything.

I am just saying that Israel clearly considers Palestinian and Lebanese civilians to be subhuman. Otherwise they wouldn't act the way they do.

You can point to Hamas or Hezbollah, but that doesn't change Israel's actions. Incidentally those actions will make the belief in Hamas as freedom fighters a lot stronger.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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I'm not excusing anything.

I am just saying that Israel clearly considers Palestinian and Lebanese civilians to be subhuman. Otherwise they wouldn't act the way they do.

You can point to Hamas or Hezbollah, but that doesn't change Israel's actions. Incidentally those actions will make the belief in Hamas as freedom fighters a lot stronger.
How do you think the Muslims consider the jews?
Why the need for this two faced rhetoric?
Do you think that if the Palestinians representatives had for say 2 nukes they wouldn't blow up some Israel cities because of the women and children?

Even now we have seen people celebrating the missile attack, in Iran, against Israeli civilians, nonetheless.
I guess the Iranians consider the jwes subhuman , no?
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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How do you think the Muslims consider the jews?

I guess the Iranians consider the jwes subhuman , no?
Totally wrong, as person who live in Iran i shall enlighten you majority of Iranians(more than 80%) don't give a fuck about religious issues. Ordinary people never celebrate for this absurd thing,(although this act was affiliated with government),
stop believing everything you hear.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,332
How do you think the Muslims consider the jews?
Why the need for this two faced rhetoric?
Do you think that if the Palestinians representatives had for say 2 nukes they wouldn't blow up some Israel cities because of the women and children?

Even now we have seen people celebrating the missile attack, in Iran, against Israeli civilians, nonetheless.
I guess the Iranians consider the jwes subhuman , no?
You're not getting it.

This muslim behaviour you speak of is a hypothesis. Israel killing children is fact.

Let's first focus on facts.

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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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You're not getting it.

This muslim behaviour you speak of is a hypothesis. Israel killing children is fact.

Let's first focus on facts.

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So Muslims killing children that started this shit on 7 octomber is not a fact?
I already know you like only the facts of one side , because of the lengths you go to discount the other.
And my hipotesis is right and you know it, but you like to discredit it cause you have already chosen a side.

@Siamak You represent 80%?
You shoud stage a coup.:lol:
So în your posts when you say "Israel did this and that" , do you mean to say Israel's officials or Israel with it's population?
I never saw you making that distinction , yet you want me to make one when it comes to Iran government and iranians.Why is that?

Why should I belive you?
Aren't these your people ?
Mind you they are not celebrating bombing military bases , but civilians in cities.
Talk about considering others subhuman , right @Seven ?


PS. BTW , I love the hypocrisy game you two are playing.
The only question is do you this rhetoric willingly(propaganda) or unknowingly(useful idiot) style.
I have no time to comb your posts to weed you out unfortunately.
 
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