If the firepower of the sides were reversed how many jews do you think would die?
The answer seems to make you uncomfortable.
The answer seems to make you uncomfortable.
Buy on AliExpress.com
Israeli-Palestinian conflict (86 Viewers)
- Thread starter ReBeL
- Start date
Buy on AliExpress.com
https://www.thetimes.com/world/isra...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727846349
- - - Updated - - -
This motherfucker is so giddy he has the opportunity to send another nation back to stone age with daddy’s money.
- - - Updated - - -
This motherfucker is so giddy he has the opportunity to send another nation back to stone age with daddy’s money.
Dude, Israel is surrounded and could be conquered in a day by the Arabs if you extrapolate what happened on 7 October. Jews and Christians would live in a Muslim country as they currently do (not saying its wonderful), but they wouldn't be treated like animals and violated like in the Israeli settlements.
If you're talking hypothetically, if Israel didn't exist, there would be some Sunni vs Shia battling, there would be some dictators in control, but Palestine would be free and that is something you couldn't imagine. You wouldn't bellyache over immigrants because most would stay put and wouldn't be running away from war. America would be better with all those US dollars reinvested. Who would you then hate if the Muslims were to pipe down?
Don't be so selective in your research, hate Muslims all you want but don't become blind to the reality because the IDF would shoot you in a heartbeat like they're doing to the Red Cross, Western doctors, and their supposed American allies who get in the way.
If you're talking hypothetically, if Israel didn't exist, there would be some Sunni vs Shia battling, there would be some dictators in control, but Palestine would be free and that is something you couldn't imagine. You wouldn't bellyache over immigrants because most would stay put and wouldn't be running away from war. America would be better with all those US dollars reinvested. Who would you then hate if the Muslims were to pipe down?
Don't be so selective in your research, hate Muslims all you want but don't become blind to the reality because the IDF would shoot you in a heartbeat like they're doing to the Red Cross, Western doctors, and their supposed American allies who get in the way.
Look at how Western countries have come and fucked up these countries and then look at how Christians are welcomed as refugees compared to others. There has been no genocide or mass murders of Christians. My friends are doctors and in my field, I'm in the know about what is happening. I know Christian Arabs there now helping out. The Middle East is their home.
Not you personally and I don't wish any harm on anyone else here, but sometimes I feel that people need to live a day as a Palestinian in Gaza, bury their wives and babies, then come back and comment here. Even victims of 9/11 have been able to forgive their attackers, but this is a different thing altogether. That doesn't mean that these casualties are Hamas supporters, these people are desperate.
Not you personally and I don't wish any harm on anyone else here, but sometimes I feel that people need to live a day as a Palestinian in Gaza, bury their wives and babies, then come back and comment here. Even victims of 9/11 have been able to forgive their attackers, but this is a different thing altogether. That doesn't mean that these casualties are Hamas supporters, these people are desperate.
Depends on the country and circumstance, so that's a very odd blanket statement to make. It's been an ongoing issue in Turkey for over 100 years, first a genocide and then generalised persecution. Islamic State mass murdered Christians in their stronghold regions. This is only in relation to "genocide or mass murder", not generalised persecution or restricted liberties/laws, as UP only spoke about numbers decreasing (which they are).
Do you also believe in unicorns?
Wouldn't live like animals? What about gay people? What about the women? will they go back to live like yours? No sane person will be willing to live under mualim majority after he was part of a modern society, hence why no arab immigrant ever went back home willingly.
Anyway, Without Israel there would have never been an independent Palestinian country, ever.
The land would have been divided between syria, jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. The whole goal of establishing a separate national Palestinian identity was to undermine the Israeli state once it was clear it wont be taken by force.
The Historical proof for this is overwhelming.
But sure Israel and the west are the root for the entire arab world problems. Israel in a 1000 years wouldn't kill as many muslim you kill between yourselves in a single decade.
Wouldn't live like animals? What about gay people? What about the women? will they go back to live like yours? No sane person will be willing to live under mualim majority after he was part of a modern society, hence why no arab immigrant ever went back home willingly.
Anyway, Without Israel there would have never been an independent Palestinian country, ever.
The land would have been divided between syria, jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. The whole goal of establishing a separate national Palestinian identity was to undermine the Israeli state once it was clear it wont be taken by force.
The Historical proof for this is overwhelming.
But sure Israel and the west are the root for the entire arab world problems. Israel in a 1000 years wouldn't kill as many muslim you kill between yourselves in a single decade.
I nominate @DAiDEViL to take in Siamak in case things go south in Iran. 'Mak might even make love to you if you still have long hair.
You're assuming that ISIS are representative of Muslims, a lot of my Muslim friends will say that they come from a tribe who were actually enemies of Muslims. Similarly Sunnis consider Shia non-Muslims. Point is that ISIS is the most extreme example and they killed many Muslims, enslaved women, etc that has nothing to do with religion.
I don't know enough about Turkey to respond, but in modern Africa there has been smaller scale genocide by Christians and Islamists.
@U Picciriddu need more context. I'd say places like the Dubai are very welcoming for Christians.
I don't know enough about Turkey to respond, but in modern Africa there has been smaller scale genocide by Christians and Islamists.
@U Picciriddu need more context. I'd say places like the Dubai are very welcoming for Christians.
Obviously Islamic State are extremist and not representative of ordinary Muslims, but they are still Muslims (the name was a dead giveaway for me) who massacred Christians, so what you said isn't true. I guess it's always extremists murdering people anyway, isn't it? Surely by default. You can't kill people based on religion, race, sexuality, etc and be considered a moderate. Maybe there are all sorts of discussions we could get into about the role of fringe organisations and individuals, sectarianism and good or bad Muslims and Christians really.
@JuveJay
Fully agree with you and you'd need a priest and imam here to fully discuss such a topic. I just wanted to detach the religion aspect because it's now common that people will justify Israeli actions to eradicate the evil Muslims as @Tomice suggests in his response to my post. I would've thought that people who love God would want to do good deeds for a ticket to heaven so really, this is a geopolitical war and religion should be dismissed so that the whole situation can be seen as it really is.
Fully agree with you and you'd need a priest and imam here to fully discuss such a topic. I just wanted to detach the religion aspect because it's now common that people will justify Israeli actions to eradicate the evil Muslims as @Tomice suggests in his response to my post. I would've thought that people who love God would want to do good deeds for a ticket to heaven so really, this is a geopolitical war and religion should be dismissed so that the whole situation can be seen as it really is.
If you stay away from schools or other gatherings of small children you're probably fine.
- - - Updated - - -
That's exactly why I say hypotheses don't matter. We can talk about that all day.
What matters is that:
- Iran issued a warning killing zero Israeli civilians.
- Israel bombed a school and a refugee camp in Gaza killing at least 20 civilians.
These are the facts.
- - - Updated - - -
That's exactly why I say hypotheses don't matter. We can talk about that all day.
What matters is that:
- Iran issued a warning killing zero Israeli civilians.
- Israel bombed a school and a refugee camp in Gaza killing at least 20 civilians.
These are the facts.