Israeli-Palestinian conflict (84 Viewers)

[maxi]

Are you sure that was the reason? Let me ask you, if a foreign government came in and declared that your home is now under the control of some new government that doesn't represent you and seeks to displace you, if you do everything you can to fight back then is it because "you couldn't live to see it?" If China says the northeast US now belongs to Russia, yeah I'd want to fight back too.

I'm referring specifically to the Arab League nations here like Jordan and Egypt who were originally the ones in control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip respectively. Palestine didn't break the 1949 Armistice Agreements, they did. If there's anyone to blame for the failure of the 2 state solution its them. Totally unecessary. Yet Israel gets the blame.

I'm confused, do you or do you not believe in a two state solution now? Because it seems now you're suggesting that the formation of Israel in of itself was wrong and unfair.

Point out where I asserted this. I have suggested and outright said the opposite multiple times in fact:

By "recent wrongdoings" I wasn't merely implying October 7th but the events in the 90s and 00s that led to the election of Hamas.

So this is a religion thing for you then? You're taking this to a place that I have no desire to go, so lets end it here because I have no desire to devolve this into Elvin-level posting.

If you can't see how religion is heavily intertwined with the pan-islamic unity against Israel then I don't know what to say really. With the exception of four countries (Bolivia, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela), the countries that do not recognize Israel are all Muslim. You literally had a Joint Arab Islamic Extraordinary Summit in November, exclusive to Islamic countries only, which sought a strategy against Israel. If not for religion, then where are these kind of summits for other genocides, especially considering that one of those present was the genocidal maniac Assad himself?

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I don’t give unsolicited advice, but I’ll make an exception this time: Don’t waste your time with him.

Again, for someone who has me on ignore you still seem awfully obsessed with my posts.

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And you put genocide in quotes, but what would you call it then?

The ICJ doesn't seem to think it's a genocide either, so...

 

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[U Picciriddu]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/27/...l-hamas-october-7-allegations-intl/index.html

 

[Mohad]

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

The most obvious solution to this is to disband the quasi-religious Israel nation state and make the secular Jews live somewhere else or create an entirely new secular state somewhere far from the Middle Earth I mean middle east, hint : Australia is very sparsely populated, just go there ffs.

Let the 3 religious freaks groups see for themselves that there's no yhwh, no jesus, no allah, no messiah, no 2nd coming, no mahdi, no false prophet no holy place, no war to bring the end times, blablabla whatsoever in the lalalaland...

Fuck did we do to deserve this bullshit yo?

Let us fight over bullshit like “Change the date!” and which footy team is better instead of this complex and ancient religious/geopolitical bullshit

 

[Fr3sh]

Gonna need @maxi to explain this with some high level hasbara here

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

did she survive the encounter? it looked like she got circled by a cannibal tribe then video abruptly ends.

 

[maxi]

The court found that there was a plausible case of genocide being committed, presenting as fact evidence of genocidal actions and genocidal intent.

And then stopped short of even calling for a ceasefire, enabling Israel to continue with their assault. So make of that what you will.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

did she survive the encounter? it looked like she got circled by a cannibal tribe then video abruptly ends.

random off topic question:

is Altinok a common Turkish surname?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

random off topic question:

is Altinok a common Turkish surname?

yes, it means golden arrow.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

yes, it means golden arrow.

I have neighbours with that surname. Lovely people. Turkish food

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

I have neighbours with that surname. Lovely people. Turkish food

Good for you.

 

[Tomice]

@Tomice you alright?

Crossed back to Israel this sunday, a few more days and we will go back home. Long, intense 4 months man but I'm good.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

House fails to pass standalone Israel aid bill as Senate package stalls

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-of-representatives-israel-aid-vote-mike-johnson/

$17.6 billion.

 

[Fab Fragment]

With more than 30,000 Palestinians dead, thousands maimed, orphaned and suffering famine, I almost wish Israel nukes Gaza so that the Palestinian suffering might stop immediately. And Israel will achieve their desired genocidal goals.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Does anyone dares to take a guess on how this war/genocide (whatever you want to call it) will end, focussing on the geopolitical situation?

 

[JUVEMOOD]

Does anyone dares to take a guess on how this war/genocide (whatever you want to call it) will end, focussing on the geopolitical situation?

By the end of the zionist occupation.

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[AFL_ITALIA]

Does anyone dares to take a guess on how this war/genocide (whatever you want to call it) will end, focussing on the geopolitical situation?

Realistically, with an independent and sovereign Palestinian state comprising of at least the West Bank and the Gaza strip, with some sort of easement between them.

Whether that's at the conclusion of this war or not, I don't know.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Realistically, with an independent and sovereign Palestinian state comprising of at least the West Bank and the Gaza strip, with some sort of easement between them.

Whether that's at the conclusion of this war or not, I don't know.

In a way I have an escalation of the war in the back of my head. A scenario where Israel will enter Rafah, the West not supporting them and surrounding Arabian countries seizing their opportunity. All hypothesis though

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

In a way I have an escalation of the war in the back of my head. A scenario where Israel will enter Rafah, the West not supporting them and surrounding Arabian countries seizing their opportunity. All hypothesis though

I can understand that. Israel is going to enter Rafah, it is a guarantee. In my opinion the US is 100% fed up with Israel, but will still continue to support them here regardless, I do not understand why. I think they gain far more from this relationship now than we do. There is no scenario where we will allow Israel to be invaded in my opinion, we have absolutely no issue with bombing any nation at any time in the Middle East.

I also think (maybe only hope, unfortunately) that after this conflict we will push for a two state solution. At least Biden would I think, Trump I don't know but assume he would just let Israel do whatever.

 

[loyada]

In a way I have an escalation of the war in the back of my head. A scenario where Israel will enter Rafah, the West not supporting them and surrounding Arabian countries seizing their opportunity. All hypothesis though

Arab countries : What opportunity? Yes give me two front row tickets