Israeli-Palestinian conflict (91 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

History denier
History facts don't care about how much you stay in the sun , kinda like biology and woke idiots.

BTW still waiting for some facts , not you laughable whataboutism .

What are you defining Jews as? Followers of Judaism? In that case they clearly aren't going to the first people to ever settle the area. If you link the Jews to Israelites who descended from Canaanites who descended from the cultures before them then maybe there is a point.

Ultimately religions also evolve over time so it's all nonsense, their ancestors would have been heretics and idolaters lol.

 

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[kappa96]

What are you defining Jews as? Followers of Judaism? In that case they clearly aren't going to the first people to ever settle the area. If you link the Jews to Israelites who descended from Canaanites who descended from the cultures before them then maybe there is a point.

Ultimately religions also evolve over time so it's all nonsense, their ancestors would have been heretics and idolaters lol.

Israelites obvious . The state is called Israel .
Ohh there is no "there is a point" .
It's actually a history fact point.
People like Gordo and lion think that the history of the area only goes back to 1947.

 

[JuveJay]

Israelites obvious . The state is called Israel .
Ohh there is no "it's a point" .
It's actually a history fact point.
People like Gordo and lion think that the history of the area only goes back to 1947.

But we've just established that Israel and Israelites were not the first land / people in the region.

You seem to be entertaining yourself anyway, so good for you.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah I know should of said that between jews and Arabs there is no question that jews inhabited the land first .
I know I didn't made myself clear but I typed a rapid response.

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But between Arabs and jews who settled the area first.
History tells us it's the jews , but they burn in the sun so they don't have any right to the land right ?

Philistines preceded the israelites, now we call them palestinian. Arab is anyone who speaks arabic as their main language regardless of religion or ethnicity. That is why there's no one look for arabs. All it takes is adopting the language. By your definition, jesus was not an Israelite because he spoke Aramaic. Or the irish are not original inhabitants of ireland because they speak english. Silliness.

 

[Post Ironic]

What are you defining Jews as? Followers of Judaism? In that case they clearly aren't going to the first people to ever settle the area. If you link the Jews to Israelites who descended from Canaanites who descended from the cultures before them then maybe there is a point.

Ultimately religions also evolve over time so it's all nonsense, their ancestors would have been heretics and idolaters lol.

There are a few theories on the Israelites (who can pretty definitively be linked to the Jews - -at least the ancient Jews) entrance into Canaan. Most agree Israelite culture started showing up around 1250 bce. One says they came from the desert or desert fringes to the east, and another says they were indigenous pastoralists who lived on the fringes of settled areas in Canaan, but mostly east of the. Others talk about them coming from the Canaanite coastal cities, after a peasant revolt. The Bible follows the eastern theories, that they came out of the steppe lands to the east of the river Jordan.

 

[kappa96]

But we've just established that Israel and Israelites were not the first land / people in the region.

You seem to be entertaining yourself anyway, so good for you.

I responded to post Ironic a few posts back .
I said that between jews/israelites and Arabs, jews where the first attested in history to ever inhabit the area, yet somehow Gordo thinks that because they burn in the sunt it's not an actual fact.

You see what I'm talking about .
Now philistines = Palestinians
Just like Asian Indians = American Indians right @GordoDeCentral?

 

[Post Ironic]

I responded to post Ironic a few posts back .
I said that between jews/israelites and Arabs, jews where the first attested in history to ever inhabit the area, yet somehow Gordo thinks that because they burn in the sunt it's not an actual fact.

Both Levantine Arabs (including Palestinians) and Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews owe 50% + of their DNA to ancient Canaanites. Both these populations are descended from the Canaanites. There’s not much point in debating who was there “first”. It’s kinda meaningless if we’re going back 3000+ plus years.

 

[kappa96]

Both Levantine Arabs (including Palestinians) and Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews owe 50% + of their DNA to ancient Canaanites. Both these populations are descended from the Canaanites. There’s not much point in debating who was there “first”. It’s kinda meaningless if we’re going back 3000+ plus years.

OK ,let me take your word for that .
A link to this study would be nice , but still the point remains how it's the Palestinians land since both people can lay a claim to it?
@GordoDeCentral any thoughts , besides the sun mem.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I responded to post Ironic a few posts back .
I said that between jews/israelites and Arabs, jews where the first attested in history to ever inhabit the area, yet somehow Gordo thinks that because they burn in the sunt it's not an actual fact.

You see what I'm talking about .
Now philistines = Palestinians
Just like Asian Indians = American Indians right @GordoDeCentral?

"The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era. After Roman times the name had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain; in addition to an area roughly comprising present-day Israel and the West Bank"

The only explanation i can find for you constantly getting owned and coming back for more is that you actually enjoy it.

 

[kappa96]

"The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era. After Roman times the name had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain; in addition to an area roughly comprising present-day Israel and the West Bank"

The only explanation i can find for you constantly getting owned and coming back for more is that you actually enjoy it.

So you explained to me the ethimology of the word Palestine and said that it refers to Arabs.
I'm yet to find the word Arab in your "proof".
You probably missed this owned part "and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era."

And you call that owned. It's just laughable.

Even the word Palestine is way older than the Palestinians themselves that only inhabited the area after Christ .
You call that owned. I call it a laughable attempt.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

OK ,let me take your word for that .
A link to this study would be nice , but still the point remains how it's the Palestinians land since both people can lay a claim to it?
@GordoDeCentral any thoughts , besides the sun mem.

Evidence? The jews themselves in their torah.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

So you explained to me the ethimology of the word Palestine and said that it refers to Arabs.
I'm yet to find the word Arab in your "proof".

Yeah nothing personal, but this is getting way too dumb for me. Deuces.

 

[kappa96]

Yeah nothing personal, but this is getting way too dumb for me. Deuces.

For me was dumb from the beginning , right after you posted your sun mem.

As a history lesson if I'm not mistaken the Roman's came with the name Palestinian who back then meant nomadic people still some 400 or 500 years before any Arab(as we know them in our times) ever set foot in that part of the world.
If someone wants to double check this be my guess but I'm not going to bother.

 

[s4tch]

... The only explanation i can find for you constantly getting owned and coming back for more is that you actually enjoy it.

there's a terrible old joke for it, here's the translation:

https://topviccek-hu.translate.goog..._sl=hu&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=hu&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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the salty prick

go on manchild, be mad

 

[DAiDEViL]

That @kappa96 guy

 

[kappa96]

there's a terrible old joke for it, here's the translation:

https://topviccek-hu.translate.goog..._sl=hu&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=hu&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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the salty prick

go on manchild, be mad

I'm so happy it bothers you manchild
I ain't going to bother posting your "wat" reputation.
Posting that only shows what a little brat you really are.
So gogo manchild.
Don't bother taking it back , I don't care.

 

[s4tch]

I'm so happy it bothers you manchild
I ain't going to bother posting your "wat" reputation.
So gogo manchild.

triggered by a joke

hunter hunter is your new nick from now on

 

[kappa96]

triggered by a joke

hunter hunter is your new nick from now on

I'm gonna call you "thick skin Hungarian"
The laughable part is that you think I read it.

 

[Post Ironic]

OK ,let me take your word for that .
A link to this study would be nice , but still the point remains how it's the Palestinians land since both people can lay a claim to it?
@GordoDeCentral any thoughts , besides the sun mem.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...m-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews

 

[kappa96]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...m-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews

Great read.
With this findings it's even sadder that they fight between themselves.
It all comes down to religion fundamentalism the bane of modern societies.