Israeli-Palestinian conflict (90 Viewers)
- Thread starter ReBeL
- Start date
Sure the government of saudi arabia doesn't care and wants to normalize relations with israel but what happens if israel kills 10s of thousands of palestinians over the next few days. Outrage in the islamic world could be so immense that the arab govts who want to normalize israel relations will face immense domestic public pressure to back out
At least that seems to me like the only logical explanation ive heard for why hamas would launch this attack
At least that seems to me like the only logical explanation ive heard for why hamas would launch this attack
Could be, I don’t think the backlash will be coming from the west and it’s possible that Israel and Saudi Arabia/morocco etc are okay with that. They can just say Palestine asked for it and call it a day.
based on the amount of bombing Israel is doing right now, I would expect the backlash to have started but instead we have Biden and Blinken getting teary eyed about Israel babies they may or may have not seen.
based on the amount of bombing Israel is doing right now, I would expect the backlash to have started but instead we have Biden and Blinken getting teary eyed about Israel babies they may or may have not seen.
Agree. This puts on pause the normalization efforts and depending on how bloody the retaliation is, potentially rolls it back. There is so much to be gained on all sides if you form a soft alliance/cooperation between the Saudis, UAE, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar and Israel etc.. All but the Palestinians ofc.
Iran ofc fears being the only pariah excluded from this coalition and so has every incentive to destabilize it. From their perspective, they're seeing the gulf states grow in power, diversifying their economies away to become less oil dependent and liberalizing internally away from Islamism. As a fully oil-dependent Islamist state this is a horrifying prospect. They know they'll be squeezed out and they can see that their own population is increasingly rejecting their ideology.
Thats why if Israel are smart and dont act out of emotion they would practice restraint and be methodical in taking out Hamas and only Hamas. Doesn't look like this is happening. If they let emotion take over and prioritize a further land grab or revenge over normalization, then they've lost sight of the big picture.
Iran ofc fears being the only pariah excluded from this coalition and so has every incentive to destabilize it. From their perspective, they're seeing the gulf states grow in power, diversifying their economies away to become less oil dependent and liberalizing internally away from Islamism. As a fully oil-dependent Islamist state this is a horrifying prospect. They know they'll be squeezed out and they can see that their own population is increasingly rejecting their ideology.
Thats why if Israel are smart and dont act out of emotion they would practice restraint and be methodical in taking out Hamas and only Hamas. Doesn't look like this is happening. If they let emotion take over and prioritize a further land grab or revenge over normalization, then they've lost sight of the big picture.
I’ll give it that. And I don’t like conspiracy theories. But those scenes are just like Bucha. And he stands to benefit from this more than anyone.
You could question whether Israel and Russia had better relations than that. It’s pretty clear that Netanyahu shops at Putinmart, and Putin made all sorts of sabre-rattling about saving the Jews from Ukrainian Nazis.
Yet Putin still bombed the crap out of synagogues. And a lot of oligarchs in the House of Putin have been seeking Israeli citizenship as an out. So I don’t see Russia supporting Israel any further than it advances its own interest, selling it out if there are higher bidders.
You could question whether Israel and Russia had better relations than that. It’s pretty clear that Netanyahu shops at Putinmart, and Putin made all sorts of sabre-rattling about saving the Jews from Ukrainian Nazis.
Yet Putin still bombed the crap out of synagogues. And a lot of oligarchs in the House of Putin have been seeking Israeli citizenship as an out. So I don’t see Russia supporting Israel any further than it advances its own interest, selling it out if there are higher bidders.
The land grab will begin in 24 hours.
“The Israeli Ministry of Defense and the IDF notified the UN just before midnight local time to evacuate its staff and notify Palestinians living north of Wadi Gaza that they should evacuate to the southern part of the Gaza Strip in the next 24 hours"
https://x.com/lookner/status/1712662996881699211?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
Just imagine being one of these people not associated with Hamas. This is fucking insane.
“The Israeli Ministry of Defense and the IDF notified the UN just before midnight local time to evacuate its staff and notify Palestinians living north of Wadi Gaza that they should evacuate to the southern part of the Gaza Strip in the next 24 hours"
https://x.com/lookner/status/1712662996881699211?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
Just imagine being one of these people not associated with Hamas. This is fucking insane.
Human Rights Watch says Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, Lebanon
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ed-white-phosphorous-gaza-lebanon-2023-10-12/
As I remember, this was the "red line" in Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ed-white-phosphorous-gaza-lebanon-2023-10-12/
As I remember, this was the "red line" in Syria.