Israeli-Palestinian conflict (61 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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This post says it all really


6. It’s not our fight & regardless or what Niki Haley says, it’s not our responsibility to solve this problem
That’s what Obama said about ISIS? You can see how that went 8. Israel isn’t our greatest ally and together with the USA they’ve destroyed the stability of the entire Middle East making enemies out of people that could have been avoided
Yep right, since Persia (maybe even before Pharaohs in Egypt) until the Yemen civil war, US-Israel have been responsible from everything is bad in the Middle East
9. Religious & ethnic extremism is at the cause of this, radical Islam & Arab ethnic issues against radical Zionism and Jewish ethnic issues
One side is a terrorist radical group, the other side is a country so even when there are obviously radical in both sides, I know I would never ever can support the Hamas side not matter how much propaganda Putin impose in social network and through their western media allies
 

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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
6. It’s not our fight & regardless or what Niki Haley says, it’s not our responsibility to solve this problem
That’s what Obama said about ISIS? You can see how that went 8. Israel isn’t our greatest ally and together with the USA they’ve destroyed the stability of the entire Middle East making enemies out of people that could have been avoided
Yep right, since Persia (maybe even before Pharaohs in Egypt) until the Yemen civil war, US-Israel have been responsible from everything is bad in the Middle East
9. Religious & ethnic extremism is at the cause of this, radical Islam & Arab ethnic issues against radical Zionism and Jewish ethnic issues
One side is a terrorist radical group, the other side is a country so even when there are obviously radical in both sides, I know I would never ever can support the Hamas side not matter how much propaganda Putin impose in social network and through their western media allies
No one here is saying they support Hamas or the acts of terrorism and atrocities Hamas commits.
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
No one here is saying they support Hamas or the acts of terrorism and atrocities Hamas commits.
It was in the tweet and it’s a good example that what I am against. Create a narrative with things that almost everyone can agree with and then start to enumerate nonsense to force an ideology that it doesn’t make sense

- Do nothing will create a biggest ISIS enemy in the future.
- Israel and US can be accountable for many things in Middle East but to say that without them, everything would be rainbows and unicorns is as BS as it can be
- Try to put Israel at the same level of Hamas is beyond any functional brain cell. If westerners can not longer difference between that, we may deserve a new ISIS who feels as good as killing Europeans as Americans
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,235
It was in the tweet and it’s a good example that what I am against. Create a narrative with things that almost everyone can agree with and then start to enumerate nonsense to force an ideology that it doesn’t make sense

- Do nothing will create a biggest ISIS enemy in the future.
- Israel and US can be accountable for many things in Middle East but to say that without them, everything would be rainbows and unicorns is as BS as it can be
- Try to put Israel at the same level of Hamas is beyond any functional brain cell. If westerners can not longer difference between that, we may deserve a new ISIS who feels as good as killing Europeans as Americans
Well, don't worry. IDF will decimate Gaza and a shit ton of people are gonna die, Hamas included. Then in another 10 years we can look forward to another war once the remaining kids in Gaza get their radicalization and become military age.

By the way, Israel destroyed the USS Liberty and had operatives dancing in Jersey while the towers were collapsing in Manhattan, so at times it's hard to understand the difference between the two groups of tards.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
It was in the tweet and it’s a good example that what I am against. Create a narrative with things that almost everyone can agree with and then start to enumerate nonsense to force an ideology that it doesn’t make sense

- Do nothing will create a biggest ISIS enemy in the future.
- Israel and US can be accountable for many things in Middle East but to say that without them, everything would be rainbows and unicorns is as BS as it can be
- Try to put Israel at the same level of Hamas is beyond any functional brain cell. If westerners can not longer difference between that, we may deserve a new ISIS who feels as good as killing Europeans as Americans
Nothing in that tweet stream said that it would be unicorns and rainbows in the Middle East without the US and Israel. Nothing also said that they are the only reason for the current chaos there. But it should be pretty obvious to everyone that the US and Israel have played a major part in destabilizing the region over the past 75 years through their policies and actions.

Does this mean they can be placed on the same level as Hamas terrorists? Obviously not, and no one is arguing that.
 
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alaska

Senior Member
May 25, 2013
1,255
I'm on the border atm. We are still in active fighting on our side of the fence. I Will probably be in the middle of the strip by next week.

Gruesome sights in the villages and on the roads here, much worse in reality then shown in our media at least.
Keep your head on a swivel.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,474
Nothing in that tweet stream said that it would be unicorns and rainbows in the Middle East without the US and Israel. Nothing also said that they are the only reason for the current chaos there. But it should be pretty obvious to everyone that the US and Israel have played a major part in destabilizing the region over the past 75 years through their policies and actions.

Does this mean they can be placed on the same level as Hamas terrorists? Obviously not, and no one is arguing that.
Tell that to @DAiDEViL and @Stevie who seem to love them "freedom fighters".
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,828
Criticizing Israel ≠ Supporting Hamas

Does this really need to be stated?
yes apparently :snoop:

again, this is a bipolar world without middle grounds. you're not openly and vocally anti-biden? you're automatically pro-biden, so fuck you. you're not openly and vocally anti-woke? you're pro-woke, fuck you. and it goes on. i hate this decade so far, and we're not even at the half of it. i'll probably look back at it as easily the worst decade in my lifetime.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
This is gruesome shit. Bunker busters on civilian buildings and just straight up Dresden 1945 vibes to boot.

Knesset made a statement last night (iirc) that roughly translates to annexation of Gaza and cleansing of the populace.

The US seriously needs to put its foot down here, rather than sending a carrier to keep other countries at bay while Israel conducts the massacre.


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