Israeli-Palestinian conflict (15 Viewers)
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@Osman
You don't see them as adults who have the capacity to choose for themselves. If you did, you wouldn't be able to separate them from Hamas. I understand why one would want to make that distinction though. Nobody buys calling a people a bunch of savage bloodthristy terrorists, so it's easier to target a small group (i.e., Hamas), claim that THEY are responsible for the grim situation there, and frame dead people as unfortunate collateral damage. I'm not saying you make the distinction for that purpose, but your government does and that works.
Nope, not better now. I don't even understand how you can be so sure about what drives and motivates other people to make certain decisions. Maybe you are brainwashed by the Israeli propaganda to believe that? How is that less likely than your thesis?
Ever since the beginning of the protests, the point I've been making here is that there is one group to blame, and that's the one that kills. You cannot blame Hamas/people and be upset about the lost lives, because they got what they deserved after all, fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Since when is the death of a person who intends to harm other people and is shot by the police upsetting us? I don't get it.
I 100% meant it. Stop killing the people.
As an Iranian, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been a relevant topic throughout my adult life. My hatred for the ruling regime in Iran has made it difficult for me to sympathize with and find reason in anything they are supporting and promoting. Also, those who know me know that I'm not a person seeing the world as extreme black vs extreme white. But among all the issues that I have an opinion on, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has become the most binary one during all these years. I understand that what's going there is a result of one group having completely outpowered the other, but this power imbalance has inevitably led to clearly defined (for me) rights and wrongs in this conflict.
Nope, not better now. I don't even understand how you can be so sure about what drives and motivates other people to make certain decisions. Maybe you are brainwashed by the Israeli propaganda to believe that? How is that less likely than your thesis?
Ever since the beginning of the protests, the point I've been making here is that there is one group to blame, and that's the one that kills. You cannot blame Hamas/people and be upset about the lost lives, because they got what they deserved after all, fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Since when is the death of a person who intends to harm other people and is shot by the police upsetting us? I don't get it.
I 100% meant it. Stop killing the people.
As an Iranian, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been a relevant topic throughout my adult life. My hatred for the ruling regime in Iran has made it difficult for me to sympathize with and find reason in anything they are supporting and promoting. Also, those who know me know that I'm not a person seeing the world as extreme black vs extreme white. But among all the issues that I have an opinion on, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has become the most binary one during all these years. I understand that what's going there is a result of one group having completely outpowered the other, but this power imbalance has inevitably led to clearly defined (for me) rights and wrongs in this conflict.
As I said, that's as simple as the entire matter is, and Israeli's are terrified of people learning about the simplicity of the matter because it means they have zero moral leg to stand on and everything else is just noise. Israel is an occupying European force - just look at all the Israeli leaders, their ancestry comes from various parts of the former Russian empire, Poland, other parts of Europe etc.
Netenyahu's ancestory is Polish-Russian. Ben Gurion was Polish. But oh, apparently, some of their ancestors lived in Palestine 2000 years ago, so they have some sort of right to come in and kill everyone, even though most Russian Jews are actually Askhenazi, not ethnically Hebrew, rather, Jewish converts. Even if we give them the 2000 year old story, if I remember correctly David defeated Goliath the Palestinian, so even the Hebrews are outsiders?
All the other crap Israelis throw out there, like terrorism, is just noise to legitimise themselves. Just like Apartheid, their farcical state will eventually fall in a heap. It's not a sustainable model and never will be.
A lot of needless innocent blood will be shed before then of course.
Netenyahu's ancestory is Polish-Russian. Ben Gurion was Polish. But oh, apparently, some of their ancestors lived in Palestine 2000 years ago, so they have some sort of right to come in and kill everyone, even though most Russian Jews are actually Askhenazi, not ethnically Hebrew, rather, Jewish converts. Even if we give them the 2000 year old story, if I remember correctly David defeated Goliath the Palestinian, so even the Hebrews are outsiders?
All the other crap Israelis throw out there, like terrorism, is just noise to legitimise themselves. Just like Apartheid, their farcical state will eventually fall in a heap. It's not a sustainable model and never will be.
A lot of needless innocent blood will be shed before then of course.
