Israeli-Palestinian conflict (71 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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Jul 2, 2006
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The massacres of the Albanians was reported at the time by American, British and I think French sources. I really doubt there is any conspiracy to fudge the numbers because they were Muslims. I think it more likely that Muslims inflate the numbers because the victims were Muslims. No offense intended.
I wish Muslims were that clever. They don't know to cry well compared to others.
 

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
I meant Muslims and Turks. No matter how deep you dig you can't find a mention mostly because they were Muslims. So it's ok like millions getting killed in Islam lands and it's not a big fuss.
Bull fucking shit. It wasn't Ottoman policy to bring settlers, especially not to the Balkans which they considered barbarian. I am not denying there was a backlash against the muslim minority after the Christian nations of the Balkans got predominance, but 1,5 million civilians is bloody ridiculous. Without getting into a discussion about anti-Muslims sentiments in the west - I think we would agree on a lot there - a massacre of 1,5 million people in the 20th century is simply too large a number for it to go unnoticed in Historical books. If you find me a valid source (there are plenty pro-Muslim historical authors. Rogan, Ilan Pappé etc. ) stating that 1,5 million Muslims died in the aftermath of the Balkan Wars I will suck your cock.
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
If the truth is some weird conspiracy for you, so be it.
Did I ever say it was the truth ? So you believe he was a Jew ? I don't know much about Ataturk but it would be nice to have some insight. I only called it a weird conspiracy because I have never met people believing he was a Jew. And this is surprisingly new to me.
 
Jul 10, 2006
6,753
Bull fucking shit. It wasn't Ottoman policy to bring settlers, especially not to the Balkans which they considered barbarian. I am not denying there was a backlash against the muslim minority after the Christian nations of the Balkans got predominance, but 1,5 million civilians is bloody ridiculous. Without getting into a discussion about anti-Muslims sentiments in the west - I think we would agree on a lot there - a massacre of 1,5 million people in the 20th century is simply too large a number for it to go unnoticed in Historical books. If you find me a valid source (there are plenty pro-Muslim historical authors. Rogan, Ilan Pappé etc. ) stating that 1,5 million Muslims died in the aftermath of the Balkan Wars I will suck your cock.
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Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
why does it matter whether or not the turks behind the genocide of the armenians were jewish, masons or muslims?

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I know he was. It's not like a big secret, only reason people don't talk about it openly is because of some weird laws forbidding you talking shit about him.
you got some sources other than your AndreaChristiano like claims??
 
Jul 10, 2006
6,753
Ataturk gets a 6 from jewornotjew.com so I guess there is some merit to Turk's claims.

http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=478

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Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

Jew Score:
6


May 19, 1881 – November 10, 1938
Turkey has always been a mystery to us. Is it European? Is it Asian? If it's secular, how come it has the Muslim star and crescent on its flag? And why on earth did they ever rename Constantinople to Istanbul, when the latter is a Greek word?

And add the origins of Ataturk to that list of mysteries.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, for the uninformed, was the founder and first President of the Republic of Turkey. First a military leader, then a statesman and a reformer, he was the man most responsible for lifting the "Sick Man of Europe" title from his nation. And, supposedly, his family came from the Doenme, a sect of Turkish Jews that often hid their Judaism behind a Muslim front.

Sadly, we really can't proclaim this mystery completely solved. More scholarly men than us have tried, and have failed. But there does seem to be enough evidence that at least some of his ancestors were Jewish, so we'll go with "Barely a Jew" until someone proves us wrong.

So now we can return to a more solvable mystery: what the heck is Turkish Delight?

Verdict: Barely a Jew.
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Fuck, I love the internet. :rofl:
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
I know he was. It's not like a big secret, only reason people don't talk about it openly is because of some weird laws forbidding you talking shit about him.
What laws? Stop claiming shit without having sources to back it up. Oral stories are passed on like that and become these things that everyone 'knows' but no one can back up. In the Balkans we're not shy of those either, stretching as far as claiming that the Serbian king after WW1 was forced to sign a hidden clause in the peace treaty obligating Serbian schools to teach Germanised version of history when in fact Serbs are the oldest people on earth, excavations have been found suggesting that a civilisation with flowing water flourished there 20.000 years ago.

It's just that these archeological sites have never been published, the official peace treaty has been analysed and no such clause is found and the whole thing seems so far fetched that it reeks of bullshit. Stop believing everything you hear.
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
Fair enough. I'll have a look into it and read more about it. I always had this feeling that he had this "savior" image for the Turks for having a more open, tolerant society. I also heard he changed the Turkish alphabet around from a Palestinian friend of mine but like I said, I'll read more about it I guess.
 

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