Israeli-Palestinian conflict (65 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

way to ignore the first part, your only chance at intellectual integrity is to claim ignorance, going around saying "both are wrong" is naive at best and down right hypocritical at worse

 

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[ZoSo]

way to ignore the first part, your only chance at intellectual integrity is to claim ignorance, going around saying "both are wrong" is naive at best and down right hypocritical at worse

Well good on you for supporting the killing of innocent (albeit probably naive) civilians.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

yes thats exactly what i said, my bad really for expecting you to step out of the tom and jerry realm of the generic right and wrong and have the mental maturity and proper knowledge to appreciate a subject as serious as this one, but hey it's not the first time you obstinately try to chime in when you are out of your depths, shoulda known better

 

[Salvo]

Is it world war 3 yet?

 

[Bjerknes]

Here's a question. Do citizens of Israel have a human right not to be subjected to rocket attacks?

 

[Salvo]

I think everyone has that right.

 

[Bjerknes]

I would argue, no, they don't have that right. The reason for this is because they have the right to choose where they live, those in Gaza don't seemingly have that option. They are confined by segregation walls.

 

[Salvo]

I would argue, no, they don't have that right. The reason for this is because they have the right to choose where they live, those in Gaza don't seemingly have that option. They are confined by segregation walls.

Regardless I don't think anyone should be shelled. Israeli, Palestinian or Napoli fans. The last one might be a lie.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Napoli fans should all be shot out of a cannon and fired at the moon.

 

[ZoSo]

yes thats exactly what i said, my bad really for expecting you to step out of the tom and jerry realm of the generic right and wrong and have the mental maturity and proper knowledge to appreciate a subject as serious as this one, but hey it's not the first time you obstinately try to chime in when you are out of your depths, shoulda known better

You're still promoting violence. Sure there are many 'diplomatic' answers to this question but at the end of the day innocent people are losing their lives.

Here's a question. Do citizens of Israel have a human right not to be subjected to rocket attacks?

You are so disconnected from this it's not even funny. I'm sure if your home was under attack you'd say you have a right to be shelled and you love it.

Regardless I don't think anyone should be shelled. Israeli, Palestinian or Napoli fans. The last one might be a lie.

Napoli fans should all be shot out of a cannon and fired at the moon.

 

[Salvo]

This is very ignorant of me, I am not very educated in this particular conflict, is it worse now than it has been for the many years that is has been happening? Does it seem that something will shift now for more full scale warfare or is it just another dark episode?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You're still promoting violence. Sure there are many 'diplomatic' answers to this question but at the end of the day innocent people are losing their lives.



You are so disconnected from this it's not even funny. I'm sure if your home was under attack you'd say you have a right to be shelled and you love it.

where did i promote violence? you really need to stop putting your twsit in my words or i will just stop responding to you

This is very ignorant of me, I am not very educated in this particular conflict, is it worse now than it has been for the many years that is has been happening? Does it seem that something will shift now for more full scale warfare or is it just another dark episode?

of course it is much worse, israel is creating more settlements, stealing more resources(mainly water) and effectively further alienating those ghettoized palestinians in gaza from those in the west bank and the world as a whole, siege mentality literally

 

[Salvo]

How do you think the US will react? Fucking Israel.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

the US is the single reason this situation is so messed up, it has blocked almost a 1000 UN resolutions against israel and allowed them free reign to do what they want, it can even be argued it went to war for the jewish state in a few instances. The only real hope in my opinion is the emergence of a strong pole on the other side, china russia brazil etc... to rectify the balance. Israel will never allow the arabs to have their state otherwise.

 

[rounder]

It is a sad world that we live in when there is a deep acknowledgement in the the world that Israeli lives are more valuable than Palestinians'.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

correction: israeli lives are more valuable than any gentile's, and this is no secret and israel and israelis never shied from promoting that

 

[Salvo]

the US is the single reason this situation is so messed up, it has blocked almost a 1000 UN resolutions against israel and allowed them free reign to do what they want, it can even be argued it went to war for the jewish state in a few instances. The only real hope in my opinion is the emergence of a strong pole on the other side, china russia brazil etc... to rectify the balance. Israel will never allow the arabs to have their state otherwise.

Hypothetically if Israel continue to Invade Gaza and countries such as China and Russia get involved on the Palestinian side what can America do? It is not as if they could go to war with them. In the sense that a full scare global war or WW3 just seems a bit impossible for me, at least right now. Well that is the way I see it. Surely America would have to get Israel to back off.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Hypothetically if Israel continue to Invade Gaza and countries such as China and Russia get involved on the Palestinian side what can America do? It is not as if they could go to war with them. In the sense that a full scare global war or WW3 just seems a bit impossible for me, at least right now. Well that is the way I see it.

it doesnt have to be war, same way israel has so much say in american foreign policy, if another pole were to emerge with just as much or more leverage then US would have no other choice but to budge. europe is worthless in this regard.

 

[Salvo]

Budge in which direction exactly?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

meaning no more unconditional support, no more UN vetos, a more balanced approach to support and negotiations.