Israeli-Palestinian conflict (66 Viewers)

[ReBeL]

Still we don't who is dead, who is wounded, where are 600 people in the ship and who will get killed after interrogation.

Until the moment, No. I'm sure. they are right now choosing specific people to be killed without any trials.

It is not new for them. They always killed the prisoners. Take hundreds of Egyptian soldiers as an example. Their bodies were found later with their hands handcuffed behind their backs.

That shows how brave those Zionists are.

 

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[Bjerknes]

It is not when you are attacked even though I'm not saying this is the case now.

What?

 

[Osman]

It is not when you are attacked even though I'm not saying this is the case now.



So if he shows you the same picture of an angry Danish mob you wouldn't take Israeli' side? Honestly I don't understand what it has to do with the way you, yourself, see the things.



Good post

I really don't want to justify what happened nor do I plan to condemn it. But you need to know things about BOTH sides of the story.

Israel's international image has already been spoiled (rightly so) due to the war crimes they commit in Gaza and as you said (and no one even noticed it either intentionally or out of ignorance) there were other aid ships which transmitted goods with no problem so I don't find any logic in attacking the ship this time. Yea I know, Israel don't need excuses to do whatever they want but attacking an aid ship would do harm to them by bringing uproar worldwide and causing an even worse image to the Zionists' image all over the world. Here I'm not necessarily saying that Israeli soldiers were attacked first but I find it stupid if the Israelis attacked the ship with no reason. Too stupid to be taken seriously without waiting for more information.

Naive much? Or talk about your own ignorance for really saying that. Do you know what a blockade means? Hear, listen to this, partly addresses the "no problems":

 

[Seven]

It is not when you are attacked even though I'm not saying this is the case now.



So if he shows you the same picture of an angry Danish mob you wouldn't take Israeli' side? Honestly I don't understand what it has to do with the way you, yourself, see the things.

No, that's not the point, Hoori. The point is that an angry Danish mob, a sign of global outrage, would be somewhat convincing. An angry Turkish mob, people who were already outraged by Israel anyway, is a sign of well.. nothing. So the picture, despite the fact that it reeks of propaganda, is void of meaning.

My opinion about these things is not influenced by a picture ReBeL may or may not post, but if he's using them to support an argument, they're useless.

 

[Ibrahimovic9]

For the whole Israeli fiasco the blame should fall on cowardly, corrupt, and divided Arab leaders. If the Muslim world had any unity Israel would not be allowed to kill anyone at will and face zero consequences.

 

[Osman]

Well there are TONS of people all across western countries every time Israel committed crimes against humanity, and filling the streets of the world capitals with protestors does quite little either way. Even if its an admirable solidarity.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah, what Roman posted is bullshit. The last time an aid ship went to Gaza, US Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney was arrested and deported for being on a ship carrying supplies to Gaza City.

But I'm sure she was supplying them weapons.

Bunch of Nazis. Cut these parasites loose.

 

[Seven]

I never said I didn't hate the regimes of those enemy states man and you know I've always posted as such.

Fair enough.

 

[Bjerknes]

No, that's not the point, Hoori. The point is that an angry Danish mob, a sign of global outrage, would be somewhat convincing. An angry Turkish mob, people who were already outraged by Israel anyway, is a sign of well.. nothing. So the picture, despite the fact that it reeks of propaganda, is void of meaning.

My opinion about these things is not influenced by a picture ReBeL may or may not post, but if he's using them to support an argument, they're useless.

What if he's posting them... just to post them?

Ever thunk of dat?

 

[Seven]

What if he's posting them... just to post them?

Ever thunk of dat?

He's not. ReBeL's objective in this thread is quite clear. Fortunately enough I don't really disagree with him.

To say that he hasn't got an agenda when posting these pics is absurd, Andy.

 

[Bjerknes]

He's not.

So you think he's trying to issue propaganda here to a thread where 95% of its participants are in agreement with him?

Prove it.

 

[Seven]

So you think he's trying to issue propaganda here to a thread where 95% of its participants are in agreement with him?

Prove it.

FFS, Andy, the entire thread reeks of propaganda. You can see it in the sources he uses, the way he presents the pictures, almost everything really.

But to ask a thorough discours analysis from me in my spare time is a bit much. So no, I'm not going to prove it, because it's obvious.

 

[Seven]

No, that's not the point, Hoori. The point is that an angry Danish mob, a sign of global outrage, would be somewhat convincing. An angry Turkish mob, people who were already outraged by Israel anyway, is a sign of well.. nothing. So the picture, despite the fact that it reeks of propaganda, is void of meaning.

My opinion about these things is not influenced by a picture ReBeL may or may not post, but if he's using them to support an argument, they're useless.

Don't really know why someone -repped me and told me to suck a dick. Quite childish.

Well there are TONS of people all across western countries every time Israel committed crimes against humanity, and filling the streets of the world capitals with protestors does quite little either way. Even if its an admirable solidarity.

Oh, but their actions do make a difference. Little by little you see opinions change in European countries.

 

[Bjerknes]

FFS, Andy, the entire thread reeks of propaganda. You can see it in the sources he uses, the way he presents the pictures, almost everything really.

But to ask a thorough discours analysis from me in my spare time is a bit much. So no, I'm not going to prove it, because it's obvious.

Then you lose.

People showing support of Palestine isn't propaganda.

You're smart enough to realize this.

 

[ReBeL]

FFS, Andy, the entire thread reeks of propaganda. You can see it in the sources he uses, the way he presents the pictures, almost everything really.

But to ask a thorough discours analysis from me in my spare time is a bit much. So no, I'm not going to prove it, because it's obvious.

Seven, I'm posting these pics from time to time because I heard many times here in this forum that Palestinians are cowards that choose always to use suicide bombing and do not use peaceful ways of expressing themselves. This saying is still heard here although the last bombing was since years ago.

The pics I'm posting is an attempt to make you know that my people are alive. They organize regular peaceful protests, but you rarely hear about anything else than suicide bombings because of the propaganda of the majority of the media means.

That's it.

Why am I posting articles? Because I assume that everyone in this world has the right to know about the two viewpoints, and knowing that it is so easy to read about Israeli viewpoint in the Western media, I'm trying to save you much time to read the other viewpoint. It is not that I'm imposing the opinions in the articles on your heads to take them without thinking. I know I'm here dealing with intelligent people who think logically and I tend to talk to them using nothing but logic.

If you feel the pics I'm posting have no meaning, I think they mean something for some members here. I'm open to see pics from the other side in this thread on a regular basis where we can discuss them.

Thanks.

 

[Naggar]

Please someone tell me how Arabs are barbaric..
this guy didn't take sides, he just taped and showed what he experienced, about the documentary itself it's not that great, but some scenes speak for themselves.
the man in Morocco took him home for lunch as a complete stranger, and these narrow-minded zionists just kicked him out

I have nothing at all against jews, but Israel is based on terrorism and stealing what's not yours in the name of religion, thanks to UK and US governments, and Arab governments nowadays as well.
they're in control of all the powerful positions in the world, and everything is going as they wish, this one will go as well, no one in the world can punish them
I'm not a conspiracy theory believer, but it is a matter of fact that jews control a lot in this world
sometimes it feels as if they're blackmailing everyone to shut them up each time


the folks saying activists attacked our navy please enough with that talking, killing helpless people in the name of self-defence? what is wrong with you?

 

[ReBeL]

Don't really know why someone -repped me and told me to suck a dick. Quite childish.

That is the tax you pay when you enter this type of sensitive discussion thread.

 

[Enron]

Then you lose.

People showing support of Palestine isn't propaganda.

You're smart enough to realize this.

This isn't a competition.

 

[Osman]

Seven, I'm posting these pics from time to time because I heard many times here in this forum that Palestinians are cowards that choose always to use suicide bombing and do not use peaceful ways of expressing themselves. This saying is still heard here although the last bombing was since years ago.

The pics I'm posting is an attempt to make you know that my people are alive. They organize regular peaceful protests, but you rarely hear about anything else than suicide bombings because of the propaganda of the majority of the media means.

That's it.

Why am I posting articles? Because I assume that everyone in this world has the right to know about the two viewpoints, and knowing that it is so easy to read about Israeli viewpoint in the Western media, I'm trying to save you much time to read the other viewpoint. It is not that I'm imposing the opinions in the articles on your heads to take them without thinking. I know I'm here dealing with intelligent people who think logically and I tend to talk to them using nothing but logic.

If you feel the pics I'm posting have no meaning, I think they mean something for some members here. I'm open to see pics from the other side in this thread on a regular basis where we can discuss them.

Thanks.

Well said

 

[JCK]

This thread gives me the headache.