Israeli-Palestinian conflict (140 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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BlanquiNegro

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Mar 28, 2006
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He just quoted other member's words.
So you are defending him or yourself?

As i said before i have the right to accept justification or to refuse it

anyway as i said in the last topic
i am done here

but i will respond to any insult in the way i see its the best and proper no matter what

And by the way as long as you r saying that he is just quoted other members's words
Why you didnt defend my rights in the same way you defended 7's?

see you around
 

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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    I can understand the second point, but I don't understand why they would want to keep the feud going. Why would they want Hamas beaten? Because it's a democratic movement?

    And if it is, that's disgusting. What about a country such as Egypt?
    Yes, because it is democratic, Andries. What about Egypt? Don't tell me you think it is democratic!!!
     

    BlanquiNegro

    Senior Member
    Mar 28, 2006
    949
    I didn't insult you. I think you didn't understand that post completely. Look, if you want me to, I'll even apologise. But it was hardly an insult. You on the other hand called me an idiot a hell of a lot of times.
    You don't need to

    I am not an extreme radical as Allen's think
    I don't like he idea of "with or against me"
    I don't like the idea of "take it or go to hell"

    As i told u, Islam has taught us that when the others ask for peace then it should be peace and we have to accept it as long as the other side stick to the terms

    and here is my apology
    i am sorry
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
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    It is, Alen.

    Unfortunately, it seems Israeli tanks could enter Gaza city from that side. Fighters could stop them for 19 days, and that is really an achievement, but bombing the same region since three days in a very random way was too heavy for the fighters to challenge.

    Tal Al-Hawa region including this hospital, UNRWA headquarters and Barcelona residential towers are in a very bad condition right now.
     
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    ReBeL

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    You don't need to

    I am not an extreme radical as Allen's think
    I don't like he idea of "with or against me"
    I don't like the idea of "take it or go to hell"

    As i told u, Islam has taught us that when the others ask for peace then it should be peace and we have to accept it as long as the other side stick to the terms

    and here is my apology
    i am sorry
    Nice initiative, man.
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
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    You said that you want an entire nation to be wiped from the earth surface and underground if possible.
    Those jewish radicals from that video Ahmed posted said that they want the muslims to be wiped from the earth.

    If they are radicals, why aren't you a radical?
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
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    I can understand the second point, but I don't understand why they would want to keep the feud going. Why would they want Hamas beaten? Because it's a democratic movement?

    And if it is, that's disgusting. What about a country such as Egypt?
    Because its a democratic movement is one of the main reasons. It sets a dangerous precedent. Arab rulers biggest fear is democracy.

    Egypt* is actually supporting Israel. Israel itself is saying that. Egypt has the most to lose from Hamas victory. Which is why its اhelping Israel in the siege on Gaza.


    * The Egyptian government not the Egyptian people, i'd like to emphasize on that.
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Jan 11, 2009
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    Yes, because it is democratic, Andries. What about Egypt? Don't tell me you think it is democratic!!!
    Of course Egypt isn't democratic.

    Because its a democratic movement is one of the main reasons. It sets a dangerous precedent. Arab rulers biggest fear is democracy.

    Egypt* is actually supporting Israel. Israel itself is saying that. Egypt has the most to lose from Hamas victory. Which is why its اhelping Israel in the siege on Gaza.


    * The Egyptian government not the Egyptian people, i'd like to emphasize on that.
    But one of the things I don't get it that apparently the people of those countries are more concerned about the atrocities in Gaza, than they are about the atrocities in their own country. Perhaps if they could set their own country straight, they could actually do something.
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
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    But one of the things I don't get it that apparently the people of those countries are more concerned about the atrocities in Gaza, than they are about the atrocities in their own country. Perhaps if they could set their own country straight, they could actually do something.
    Lol, I was about to post the same thing.
     

    Ahmed

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    Sep 3, 2006
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    But one of the things I don't get it that apparently the people of those countries are more concerned about the atrocities in Gaza, than they are about the atrocities in their own country. Perhaps if they could set their own country straight, they could actually do something.
    If everyone could do that, then we would have a lot less problems in the world
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Jan 11, 2009
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    You said that you want an entire nation to be wiped from the earth surface and underground if possible.
    Those jewish radicals from that video Ahmed posted said that they want the muslims to be wiped from the earth.

    If they are radicals, why aren't you a radical?
    He went well beyond that point. He declared it a war between all muslims and all Jews, which will be won by the muslims in the final days of time.
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Jan 11, 2009
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    Lol, I was about to post the same thing.
    It must be a thinking pattern that's different here in Europe. It really doesn't make sense to me.

    What I wonder about as well is this:

    is democracy an Arab concept? I know it's a human right and all, but hasn't it always been a true western value? Or is it something that has existed throughout muslim and Arab history as well?
     

    CheSchifo!

    Senior Member
    Jan 11, 2009
    642
    it's basically 2 things IMO:

    1 - poverty - everyone is out to get what they can, the general public is not such a big deal

    2 - education (lack of)
    But all of this means that the Arab world must be completely dependant on international organisations such as the UN.

    But you choose to insult them. Sure, it's slow, sure, it doesn't always look right, but it's the only shot you have, no?
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
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    But one of the things I don't get it that apparently the people of those countries are more concerned about the atrocities in Gaza, than they are about the atrocities in their own country. Perhaps if they could set their own country straight, they could actually do something.
    Intelligence forces are so strong in the Arab countries as the regimes feel the need to always keep an eye on any intention for the people before allowing it to happen. That way and after Arab people saw the bad destiny of those who talked against the regimes made the Arab people so scared and have no trust at all with other people as each one thinks that that the other one is one of the Intelligence men. That led people to become so indifferent and their feelings dies with time passing as they couldn't express their feelings publicly.

    Imagine for example that in Tunisia, each perosn who prays has to choose one mosque and the name of that mosque is written on the identity card of the citizen. If he tries to pray in another mosque, he gets imprisoned immediately. This procedure was imposed because the regime there found that this idea might help it to decrease any problems in the mosques as all the prayers' names are known to the authorities.
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
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    What I wonder about as well is this:

    is democracy an Arab concept? I know it's a human right and all, but hasn't it always been a true western value? Or is it something that has existed throughout muslim and Arab history as well?
    Lol, why do you wonder when you already know the answers? :)
     

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