Israeli-Palestinian conflict (90 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
thanks for historical correction.they lost in 1945?maybe but fear of nazis is still living on people's heart.whatever, this isn't case.

When they came and started to kill Palestinians and occupying their lands they have accepted consequences.They shouldn't moan about it.
Yes. That's how it went. The Jews went to Israel and started slaughtering Palestinians. That's what they do. They have been slaughtering Palestinians for sixty years without reason. Your reasoning is a bit off as well. The time frame isn't correct:

1) Jews kill Palestinians
2) There are consequences: ergo Hamas and such
3) The reaction would then be that Jews kill Palestinians.

You're saying that reaction isn't justified. But it doesn't matter, because they were already killing Palestinians. If anything, that only proves that Israel has the right to kill Palestinians, as long as they accept the consequences. Very strange reasoning.
 

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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
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Also, israel WOULD accept Hamas if they weren't firing rockets in there all the time.
I dont like Hamas, but do you EVEN know what drives them to fire those rockets? They are daily stealing their land and basic need to live (even in the few Palestinian lands left, Israeli settlers own all the water), caging in them like slaves in their tiny desloate lands (where the israelis controll every single thing), basically wanting to slowly cut down the "arab demographic" so they can be easier to controll and take over completely, and make all of it Israeli land and without the "threat" of arab majority population (Thats the direct goal of Israels govt, they actually said too many arab babies are being borned, we have to stop that somehow...).

I mean, do you actually think the problem will stop just because Hamas stops firing rockets? I dont like their methods and their set goal because its counterproductive, but they are DEFENITELY not the big crook of this neverending dilemma. If they dont do nothing and just try to oppose politically, they will just be toothless after beign punched around all the time from Israel. Israel would just continue fucking them everyone covertly (they control EVERY aspect of their life basically, and have ZERO intentions to do anything but harm the palestinians), til Palestinians turns to dusts.

If they only function politically, they only turn into another puppets like Abbas and his little govt, say they want peace to get handouts from their westerns overlords, and corruptly live off those handouts while doing shit for the Palestinian peoples who's everyday live is getting and will get worse and worse. Israel dont need to condead shit in nay treaty or pacts, until actual and real demands are made on them from international community. And not just empty psuedo diplomatic ones were the status quo of Israel controlling every little thing from the water to the banks, and call peace between them.

I mean, have seriously thought about what happens to them if they just dont do ANYTHING? They would basically just be sitting around waiting to slowly die.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
Then again the Israelis don't use their own civilians as a shield. And unlike Hamas they say they regret civilian casualties. No, it's ugly, but it's ugly from both sides.
that is true, but you have to consider, israel has a strong army with the best weapons and technology, they don't need to, hamas don't, their tactics are desperate which is why they resort to these things as wrong as they are

as for the saying they regret it part, who really gives a damn if they say they regret it, after killing more then 200 children israel say "oh yea, we regret it" bullshit imo
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
Civilians are dying since 1947 and they know they will die as shields or in their sleeps.
I genuinely don't understand what you mean with that comment. Could you elaborate?

Then again I don't want to go back to previous discussion about holocaust. How many Jews died for cause of Zionism?
Zionists did not organise the Holocaust. Get over it.

that is true, but you have to consider, israel has a strong army with the best weapons and technology, they don't need to, hamas don't, their tactics are desperate which is why they resort to these things as wrong as they are

as for the saying they regret it part, who really gives a damn if they say they regret it, after killing more then 200 children israel say "oh yea, we regret it" bullshit imo
At least they say they regret it. Hamas actually targets civilians. Look, both sides are obviously guilty, all I'm saying here is that it's not right to claim that Israel is the only culprit here.
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
Look, I honestly don't care if you guys want to keep on denying all rational arguments. What's important is that all important international organisations tend to agree with what I'm saying here.
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
I genuinely don't understand what you mean with that comment. Could you elaborate?



Zionists did not organise the Holocaust. Get over it.



At least they say they regret it. Hamas actually targets civilians. Look, both sides are obviously guilty, all I'm saying here is that it's not right to claim that Israel is the only culprit here.
They are wither you like it or not
Dont talk about what is happening now although its very obvious and the PPL all over the world protesting against Israel is just a clear evidence
If you wanna talk about it then go back to Balfour Declaration of 1917
when the Zionist got the promise to have their homeland in Palestine
Its not their homeland and will never be


And yes Zionists organised the holocaust or at least miss used it
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
why do i have the feeling that CheSchifo and Someone are the same person. and that seven has come to the point where he needs to argue against himself
Its not andy
I am someone from UAE
Abu Dhabi

dont know about what so called 7

When i joined the forum some of the members here said that I am Dr.Juve
and now 7

what shall i do to prove that I am just someone just like u loves juventus and this is the only shared thing between most of us here and maybe the only reason why we r here
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,390
Its not andy
I am someone from UAE
Abu Dhabi

dont know about what so called 7

When i joined the forum some of the members here said that I am Dr.Juve
and now 7

what shall i do to prove that I am just someone just like u loves juventus and this is the only shared thing between most of us here and maybe the only reason why we r here
Do you know Dr. Juve?
 

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