Israeli-Palestinian conflict (72 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
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No and don't want to
Are you fucking serious?

Sorry, sorry about that. I mean, are you sure you've never heard about them?

Well, the United Nations are an international organisation. Your country is part of that organisation I believe. Israel is part of that organisation as well. This is only possible if that organisation believes Israel is a (legitimate) country. Since your country is part of that organisation, it must believe that Israel is a country as well.
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,444
No, Zionists did not organise the Holocaust and it's astonishing how you're not the least bit ashamed to come up with such an opinion. It has only been sixty years and the world is already forgetting the terrors of WWII. That's what the lack of education does.
Terrors of WWII aren't forgetten but Jews' efforts to seem to be victim causing a new terror wave in today.You can't deny there is something fishy about Holocaust.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
Wait! Wait! Wait! I just noticed this. You're pro-Kosova, but you're anti-Israel. :rofl: Oh the irony. :rofl:
If he's against what Israel is doing right now then it makes no difference if he's pro-Kosovo. But if he thinks that the country of Israel shouldn't exist then yes, one must laugh at the irony.
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
Are you fucking serious?

Sorry, sorry about that. I mean, are you sure you've never heard about them?

Well, the United Nations are an international organisation. Your country is part of that organisation I believe. Israel is part of that organisation as well. This is only possible if that organisation believes Israel is a (legitimate) country. Since your country is part of that organisation, it must believe that Israel is a country as well.
My country is part of it and joined in 1971
and for your information, they never and will never admit that Israel has the right to be a country in any way
Actually no one of the GCC countries did
and for your information as well, In GCCs they don't call Israel as state of Israel but they are calling it Israeli Occupation Forces

talk about what you know
 
Oct 3, 2004
1,121
For the Arab speakers here, anyone listening to BBC Radio in Arabic? I had a 2 hour road-trip today, so I was listening to BBC world service (Arabic version) the whole time.

There is a clear split between the Palestinians. Of course, they all hate Israel; but not all of them are pro-Hamas.

The pro-Hamas believe that Hamas should fight back and defend Palestine for honor and dignity, since there is nothing left to lose, and that the women and children are dying an honorable martyr's death.

The anti-Hamas believe that name of Palestine has been dragged down to the lowest of lows; the civilians are dying for no reason and that the outcome of this war will do nothing for the Palestinian cause.

One caller from Gaza completely lost it screaming on the phone saying,

"Why do russians, germans, americans, ethiopians all go to Israel and get an Israeli nationality; while myself, my parents, my grand parents, and great grand parents who were ALL born in Palestine don't get to have a recognised nationality? Who the hell is supposed to represent me? I live in Germany, Kuwait, Canada, USA, the Gulf. Nobody would even consider to give me a nationality even. Palestinian people are treated as the bottom class citizens of the world!"
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
Hitler or Nazis weren't worse than Zionism. Only difference is Nazis were more powerful and they killed whoever they wanted. Israel would gladly kill every muslim in the world if they had the power to do it.
:lol2:

You have got to be the dumbest mother fucker alive.

1) They were worse than Zionism, hell, I'd say Stalin was worse than Zionism.

2) They did not kill "whoever they wanted." In war, of course you kill the adversary, but the Nazis hunted down and killed mostly: Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, and Eastern Europeans. As they felt they were lower than them and needed to be extinguished from the Earth because they were at the bottom of the gene pool.

3) Israel would not "gladly" kill every Muslim in the world, to believe this is to say that every Muslim would "gladly" kill every Jew, which is not true.
I dont like Hamas, but do you EVEN know what drives them to fire those rockets? They are daily stealing their land and basic need to live (even in the few Palestinian lands left, Israeli settlers own all the water), caging in them like slaves in their tiny desloate lands (where the israelis controll every single thing), basically wanting to slowly cut down the "arab demographic" so they can be easier to controll and take over completely, and make all of it Israeli land and without the "threat" of arab majority population (Thats the direct goal of Israels govt, they actually said too many arab babies are being borned, we have to stop that somehow...).

I mean, do you actually think the problem will stop just because Hamas stops firing rockets? I dont like their methods and their set goal because its counterproductive, but they are DEFENITELY not the big crook of this neverending dilemma. If they dont do nothing and just try to oppose politically, they will just be toothless after beign punched around all the time from Israel. Israel would just continue fucking them everyone covertly (they control EVERY aspect of their life basically, and have ZERO intentions to do anything but harm the palestinians), til Palestinians turns to dusts.

If they only function politically, they only turn into another puppets like Abbas and his little govt, say they want peace to get handouts from their westerns overlords, and corruptly live off those handouts while doing shit for the Palestinian peoples who's everyday live is getting and will get worse and worse. Israel dont need to condead shit in nay treaty or pacts, until actual and real demands are made on them from international community. And not just empty psuedo diplomatic ones were the status quo of Israel controlling every little thing from the water to the banks, and call peace between them.

I mean, have seriously thought about what happens to them if they just dont do ANYTHING? They would basically just be sitting around waiting to slowly die.
Okay, I've said this for years, i don't read posts over 10 lines as one should be able to write a response that is less than 10 lines, if one makes their points well.

BUT, I read the first couple lines and I know that, the Palestinians got a raw deal, but Israel isn't going anywhere, so they should just get over it. The better equipped military won. It's a shitty situation, but that is how the world works.
Then again I don't want to go back to previous discussion about holocaust. How many Jews died for cause of Zionism?
Ohhhh, about 20 million. Including the fight with Egyptians, as slaves in Biblical times, and the Holocaust, et cetera, et cetera. Many of those deaths might not have happened if they had their own Nation-State.
Wait! Wait! Wait! I just noticed this. You're pro-Kosova, but you're anti-Israel. :rofl: Oh the irony. :rofl:
:lol2:
If he's against what Israel is doing right now then it makes no difference if he's pro-Kosovo. But if he thinks that the country of Israel shouldn't exist then yes, one must laugh at the irony.
Correct.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
Agricola or chimp chump?
:D

Wait! Wait! Wait! I just noticed this. You're pro-Kosova, but you're anti-Israel. :rofl: Oh the irony. :rofl:
If he's against what Israel is doing right now then it makes no difference if he's pro-Kosovo. But if he thinks that the country of Israel shouldn't exist then yes, one must laugh at the irony.

Juve Kosova is a certifiable RETARD !!!

He hopes that Iran does bad things to the USA, but he conveniently forgets that WE are very much responsible for Kosovo's independence
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,444
ßüякε;1861736 said:
2) They did not kill "whoever they wanted." In war, of course you kill the adversary, but the Nazis hunted down and killed mostly: Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, and Eastern Europeans. As they felt they were lower than them and needed to be extinguished from the Earth because they were at the bottom of the gene pool.
I know who were killed.They wanted to kill so-called lower people.Zionism is no better than Nazis because if you are not a Jew, you are lower than them and you should be extinguinshed if you don't bow down.if you are not a jew, you born to serve them as saddle horse.This is what they believe.

ßüякε;1861736 said:
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Ohhhh, about 20 million. Including the fight with Egyptians, as slaves in Biblical times, and the Holocaust, et cetera, et cetera. Many of those deaths might not have happened if they had their own Nation-State.
thanks for answer.so they gave up on 20 million life to having their own state.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
I really really really doubt Israel would live with Hamas if they stopped firing rockets into Israel. If so, Israel would not have broken the cease fire by halting goods from reaching their destination in Gaza. The Israelis broke the cease fire, not Hamas.

And anyway, to put things into perspective, the missiles they fire are homemade bottle rockets that anybody could make. But they don't do much damage. They're certainly nothing like the white phosphorous bombs and radioactive cluster bombs Israel uses around certain areas.

This is a humanitarian disaster in Gaza, the statistics are absolutely horrible, but there are still people approving of these attacks? Come on now, this siege needs to stop immediately.
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
I know who were killed.They wanted to kill so-called lower people.Zionism is no better than Nazis because if you are not a Jew, you are lower than them and you should be extinguinshed if you don't bow down.if you are not a jew, you born to serve them as saddle horse.This is what they believe.



thanks for answer.so they gave up on 20 million life to having their own state.
I'm not a Jew, and I'm not being targeted.
I really really really doubt Israel would live with Hamas if they stopped firing rockets into Israel. If so, Israel would not have broken the cease fire by halting goods from reaching their destination in Gaza. The Israelis broke the cease fire, not Hamas.

And anyway, to put things into perspective, the missiles they fire are homemade bottle rockets that anybody could make. But they don't do much damage. They're certainly nothing like the white phosphorous bombs and radioactive cluster bombs Israel uses around certain areas.

This is a humanitarian disaster in Gaza, the statistics are absolutely horrible, but there are still people approving of these attacks? Come on now, this siege needs to stop immediately.
Well, you are right, they won't live with them, just speculation, but I agree to a point.

But I think Hamas is intentionally attacking Israel, which is fucked up.

"You called down the fire well now you got it."

Sort of thing.
 

tibike

Senior Member
Dec 11, 2007
1,147
I really really really doubt Israel would live with Hamas if they stopped firing rockets into Israel. If so, Israel would not have broken the cease fire by halting goods from reaching their destination in Gaza. The Israelis broke the cease fire, not Hamas.

And anyway, to put things into perspective, the missiles they fire are homemade bottle rockets that anybody could make. But they don't do much damage. They're certainly nothing like the white phosphorous bombs and radioactive cluster bombs Israel uses around certain areas.

This is a humanitarian disaster in Gaza, the statistics are absolutely horrible, but there are still people approving of these attacks? Come on now, this siege needs to stop immediately.
True, but on the other hand, if your half-blind neighbor was shooting from an old shotgun at you, you probably wouldn't be too happy about it, would you?
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
ßüякε;1861736 said:
Okay, I've said this for years, i don't read posts over 10 lines as one should be able to write a response that is less than 10 lines, if one makes their points well.

BUT, I read the first couple lines and I know that, the Palestinians got a raw deal, but Israel isn't going anywhere, so they should just get over it. The better equipped military won. It's a shitty situation, but that is how the world works.
My mistake for taking you seriously or thinking you have anything to say, when you just spew empty platitudes.
 

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