Israeli-Palestinian conflict (80 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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CheSchifo!

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Well, I don't want to give him more than attention that he deserves, but the first sentence you mentioned is so wrong. Saying that they are the chosen people is just stupid. How did you understand it as pro-Palestinian?
It's a matter of religion. Legrottaglie, being a christian, believes that, to some extent at least, the Jews were the chosen people. But then he said they misbehaved. Ergo: he doesn't like Jews very much. It is sad to see how some people lose all sense of rationality when faced with a conflict such as this, because no matter how shocking it all might be, emotions and not ratio are what's causing this. The slander and offensive comments you aim towards Israel are part of the reason they're destroying Gaza now. Think about it.

Israeli Education department sends schoolkids to the military to educate to them what to do with the 'enemy':





This little Israeli girl writes "with love" on her little bomb gift to Arab children. Her schoolteacher is seen smiling:

That's sad, but isn't exactly a crime. I don't see why this is the slightest bit relevant to the situation. People have always written stuff on bombs and rockets. Don't make such a big deal out of it, it's not one of the real problems.
 

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Azzurri7

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What do you mean don't make a big deal out of it?

These kids are drawing and writing on rockets that were striking Lebanese children back in 2006. (These pictures taken back).

Is that how you educate your kids? by drawing on rockets that is going to kill 10's of people?
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Written on one of them
    Nazrala with love from Israel
    They meant Hasan Nasuralla from Lebanon

    Why would Palastenian ask their HIRED ACTORS to write such thing?
    Why not Hamas with love from Israel?

    Maybe because they Hired a cheap director
    He was sarcastic, mate.

    The slander and offensive comments you aim towards Israel are part of the reason they're destroying Gaza now. Think about it.
    Look. I know your purpose in this thread. Try to say something logical or keep silent. Zionists have been doing their massacres since 60 years because of my comments??

    That's sad, but isn't exactly a crime. I don't see why this is the slightest bit relevant to the situation. People have always written stuff on bombs and rockets. Don't make such a big deal out of it, it's not one of the real problems.
    If this is not the problem, what is the problem then?

    People always worte stuff on bombs and rockets?? When was that? and where do you get your "valuable" info from?
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Jan 11, 2009
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    What do you mean don't make a big deal out of it?

    These kids are drawing and writing on rockets that were striking Lebanese children back in 2006. (These pictures taken back).

    Is that how you educate your kids? by drawing on rockets that is going to kill 10's of people?
    It's sad, it's not a crime. That's what I said. It is only relevant in so much as it teaches children how to hate. Something you lot aren't exactly innocent of. In fact the very use of these pictures tells me that you're spreading a hate message right now:

    "Look at those animals, look at what they do".

    He was sarcastic, mate.


    Look. I know your purpose in this thread. Try to say something logical or keep silent. Zionists have been doing their massacres since 60 years because of my comments??


    If this is not the problem, what is the problem then?

    People always worte stuff on bombs and rockets?? When was that? and where do you get your "valuable" info from?
    Americans are quite famous for writing all sorts of stuff on bombs before dropping them. It's actually quite a popular custom.

    Yes, zionists, although I still think 90% of the people who post here don't understand what zionism means, have been doing their masscres because of comments very much like yours. If a people feel cornered enough, they're going to respond in such fashion. If anyone can be blamed of not being logical enough, it is you ReBel. You can't think from the heart in questions such as these. The Palestinians are not innocent, the Arab world is not innocent, Israel is not innocent. That's the real truth here. We're all guilty.
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Jan 11, 2009
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    I saw a very moving statement from an Israeli mother last week. She was debating with a Palestinian mother, who was very emotional and kept crying and said they should kill all Israelis in order to win this war. The Israeli mother on the other hand said: "It doesn't matter if we win or lose this conflict. It doesn't matter whether it's resolved or not. Because in the end, my son will be dead and so will yours. And that's all that really matters."

    Apparently they're not the Untermenschen you make them out to be.
     

    jukazem

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    How can I know what's the correct definition of Zionism if I don't know it already? Could any one of those, who're laughing or scorning at people who don't know Zionism, care to explain what Zionism is to them.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Why does it matter?
    Because he has some problems with Islam and Muslims, and I have many things to do else than repeating the same discussion we had with him tens of times.

    Why? Because you'd like to continue with your bigotry? Answer to my arguments.
    Bigotry? Arguments? What arguments? Would you please explain to the ignorant 90% of this forum, according to your words, what the Zionism is??
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Because he has some problems with Islam and Muslims, and I have many things to do else than repeating the same discussion we had with him tens of times.


    Bigotry? Arguments? What arguments? Would you please explain to the ignorant 90% of this forum, according to your words, what the Zionism is??
    You're still not answering anything. You just accused me, or someone else I don't really understand your point anymore, of hate towards muslims. Which is far from the point here.

    I'll tell you what Zionism is not about: world domination by Jews. The main goal of Zionists is to have a homeland. A more than justified claim.

    Portraying Jews as if they are subhuman is racist, ReBel.
     
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    ReBeL

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    You're still not answering anything. You just accused me, or someone else I don't really understand your point anymore, of hate towards muslims. Which is far from the point here.
    Ok, you said before few minutes that 90% of people in the forum don't know what Zionism is. Would you please enlighten them?
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Ok, you said before few minutes that 90% of people in the forum don't know what Zionism is. Would you please enlighten them?
    Why are you evading the hate issue? Is it because you realise that you do contribute to the conflict, but are ashamed to admit it?

    Don't claim Israelis are monsters for writing a message on a rocket, if you would very much like to do the same.

    And what about cases such as these:

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=16421

    I'm sure that, deep down, you consider this to be just. Well, I've got news for you, it is not. And I would very much like it if you were to alter your tone. The hatred towards Jews is very, very annoying.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Why are you evading the hate issue? Is it because you realise that you do contribute to the conflict, but are ashamed to admit it?
    Look.

    I'll try to be so patient when talking to somebody who keeps changing the topic whenever he doesn't know what to say.

    So, you are accusing me of spreading hatred? Did you see me killing children? No. I merely tried to shed light on the exact FACTS happening there in Gaza now. I posted videos and images that don't need any montage to become more violent.

    Situation in Gaza IS so bad, man. It's not that I'm faking anything. Look at tv and see what is there.

    I don't call for hate, but rather for stopping the massacre and not blaming the victim when he tries to do something to stop the massacre.
     

    CheSchifo!

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    Look.

    I'll try to be so patient when talking to somebody who keeps changing the topic whenever he doesn't know what to say.

    So, you are accusing me of spreading hatred? Did you see me killing children? No. I merely tried to shed light on the exact FACTS happening there in Gaza now. I posted videos and images that don't need any montage to become more violent.

    Situation in Gaza IS so bad, man. It's not that I'm faking anything. Look at tv and see what is there.

    I don't call for hate, but rather for stopping the massacre and not blaming the victim when he tries to do something to stop the massacre.
    FFS the victim isn't just the victim. That's what this situation is about. They're all agressors, they're all guilty. The only difference is that Israel is overreacting. They should be punished, but no need to say they're the only culprits.

    I have not changed the topic a single time, so I'm not sure what you're on about. In fact, you've changed it three times without responding to my questions.

    People show facts in a certain way, ReBeL. That way is just as important as the truth of those facts. I know very well what your intentions are. And they're not as innocent as they might seem.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Don't claim Israelis are monsters for writing a message on a rocket, if you would very much like to do the same.

    And what about cases such as these:

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=16421

    I'm sure that, deep down, you consider this to be just. Well, I've got news for you, it is not. And I would very much like it if you were to alter your tone. The hatred towards Jews is very, very annoying.
    You know all Muslims in the world don't take orders from me. Don't you? If some jewish kid is hit by some French people, does that mean Israeli planes can bombard innocent families in Gaza? What the fuck are you smoking these days?

    Why would I enjoy hitting a jewish kid in Paris? WE HAVE PALESTINIAN JEWS. So, it's not our problem with the religion itself, but rather with your friends, Zionists.
     

    BlanquiNegro

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    Mar 28, 2006
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    Why are you evading the hate issue? Is it because you realise that you do contribute to the conflict, but are ashamed to admit it?

    Don't claim Israelis are monsters for writing a message on a rocket, if you would very much like to do the same.
    Telling the truth is not a hate message to anyone

    Its obvious from the Israeli kids writing on the rockets who is sending the hate messages and showing the real face of Zionist and their way of thinking toward the Arabs

    OHHHHHHHH I forgot ............ its not a big deal in your Zionist's dictionary

    What is the big deal in your opinion?
    If not writing a hate messages on a rockets by an innocent kids
    If not killing more than 800 most of them were kids and woman
    If not using forbidden weapons (phosphoric) just released from the Americana's military laboratory and shipped directly to Tel Aviv
    If not targeting the Medical staffs in purpose
    If not targeting the press individuals
    If not putting more than million PPL of Gaza under siege for more than 7 months
    no medicine, no food , no fuel
    If not occupying Palastine, aljolan and south Lebanon for more than 40 years

    what is the big deal then?
     

    BlanquiNegro

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    Mar 28, 2006
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    I saw a very moving statement from an Israeli mother last week. She was debating with a Palestinian mother, who was very emotional and kept crying and said they should kill all Israelis in order to win this war. The Israeli mother on the other hand said: "It doesn't matter if we win or lose this conflict. It doesn't matter whether it's resolved or not. Because in the end, my son will be dead and so will yours. And that's all that really matters."

    Apparently they're not the Untermenschen you make them out to be.
    And how many Israeli's mother lost her son in this conflict?

    One Palestinian mother lost 5 of her kids few days ago

    On the other hand
    Israel, USA and European are talking about 2 Israeli soldiers caught by Hamas as POW , calling this as a Terrorist action

    While there are more than 11000 Palestinians in the Israeli prisons
    most of them kids and women and some of palestinian officials
    and know one is talking about them

    In addition to that
    How do you expect to have peace with Palestinians when one and most important Israeli's condition is to do not allow the Palestinian Refugees from returning to their homeland?
     

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