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    Britain preventing Mossad diplomat replacement


    Britain is preventing Israel from replacing a diplomat it expelled in March after the Jewish state refused to guarantee that British passports would never again be used by Mossad assassins.

    The development appears to have dashed Israel's hopes of a quick resolution to a damaging diplomatic row triggered by the assassination of a Palestinian militant in Dubai nearly four months ago.

    Britain ejected the diplomat, believed to be Mossad's London station chief, after accusing the spy agency of cloning the identities of 12 Britons living in Israel during its mission to kill Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, a Hamas commander, in his hotel room.

    Shortly after the expulsion, Israeli officials claimed to have received private assurances from Britain that they would swiftly be able to replace the ejected diplomat, putting an end to the spat.

    But according to a Foreign Office statement released yesterday, Avigdor Lieberman, Israel's foreign minister, has ignored British demands for a formal assurance that UK passports would not be cloned again.

    "We look to Israel to rebuild the trust we believe is required for the full and open relationship we would like," the Foreign Office said.

    "We have asked for specific assurances from Israel, which would clearly be a positive step towards rebuilding that trust. Any Israeli request for the diplomat to be replaced would be considered against the context of these UK requests."

    Israel is understood to have refused the condition according to the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot because of its long-standing policy of neither confirming nor denying assassinations linked to Mossad.

    The Jewish state has, however, made exceptions in the past most notably by apologising to New Zealand after two suspect Mossad agents were convicted of passport fraud in Auckland in 2004.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-preventing-Mossad-diplomat-replacement.html
     
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    This morning, International activists trew themselves in front of bulldozers to stop the building of the separation wall in Al-Walajeh village near Bethlehem. Here is the result:



































     
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    ReBeL

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    Artists in Gaza started painting graffiti preparing for the 62 anniversary of the biggest deportation in the Palestinian history...








     
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    People in Al-Ram village north of Jerusalem decided to use 3000 balloons to get through the sky over the separation wall to the lands occupied since 1948 in the 62 anniversary of Nakba...


















     
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    Balata, a camp near Nablus city, is one of more than 50 camps that were not on the map before 1948. They were filled by refugees who are still living in misery dreaming of the return to their lands and homes...

    This is a pic for Balata camp today...

     

    BIG DADDY!!!

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    Jerusalem residents attack writer Elie Wiesel over appeal to Barack Obama Holocaust survivor accused of ignoring anti-Arab discrimination in Jerusalem

    An extraordinary row has broken out between Elie Wiesel, the Holocaust survivor, author and Nobel peace prize winner, and a group of Jewish residents of Jerusalem over who speaks for the future of the disputed city.

    Wiesel prompted the argument with an open letter to Barack Obama appealing for him not to "politicise" differences over Jerusalem by pressing Israel to stop Jewish settlement construction there. In a reflection of the divisions that sometimes exist between Jews who live in the city and those who idealise it from afar, 100 Jewish residents have responded with their own open letter expressing "outrage" at Wiesel's call, and accusing him of sentimentality and falsely claiming that there is no discrimination against Jerusalem's Arab population.

    Wiesel, who lives in the US, made the appeal to Obama in adverts in American newspapers last month.

    "For me, the Jew that I am, Jerusalem is above politics," he wrote. "It belongs to the Jewish people and is much more than a city, it is what binds one Jew to another in a way that remains hard to explain. When a Jew visits Jerusalem for the first time, it is not the first time; it is a homecoming. The first song I heard was my mother's lullaby about and for Jerusalem. Its sadness and its joy are part of our collective memory." He went on to appeal to Obama not to press Israel on the issue of Jerusalem.

    "Pressure will not produce a solution. Is there a solution? There must be, there will be. Why tackle the most complex and sensitive problem prematurely?" he asked. "Jerusalem must remain the world's Jewish spiritual capital, not a symbol of anguish and bitterness, but a symbol of trust and hope."

    The 100 Jewish Jerusalemites, who include academics and political activists, responded in a letter in the New York Review of Books this week that expressed "frustration, even outrage" at Wiesel's claims and at being "sacrificed for the fantasies of those who love our city from afar".

    "We cannot recognise our city in the sentimental abstraction you call by its name," they wrote. "Your Jerusalem is an ideal, an object of prayers and a bearer of the collective memory of a people whose members actually bear many individual memories. Our Jerusalem is populated with people, young and old, women and men, who wish their city to be a symbol of dignity – not of hubris, inequality and discrimination. You speak of the celestial Jerusalem; we live in the earthly one."

    The writers accused Wiesel of being blind to history and the realities of life in Jerusalem today, including systematic discrimination against the Arab population and the efforts of "crafty politicians and sentimental populists" frantically trying to Judaize the Arab areas of the city "in order to transform its geopolitics beyond recognition".

    "Your claim that Jerusalem is above politics is doubly outrageous. First, because contemporary Jerusalem was created by a political decision and politics alone keeps it formally unified. The tortuous municipal boundaries of today's Jerusalem were drawn by Israeli generals and politicians shortly after the 1967 war," they wrote.

    The writers added that by grabbing Palestinian land and villages and incorporating them into a greatly expanded Jerusalem, the Israeli government created "an unwieldy behemoth" larger than Paris.

    "Now they call this artificial fabrication 'Jerusalem' in order to obviate any approaching chance for peace," they said. The writers tartly noted that Wiesel chooses not to live in the city he claims such attachment to.

    "We prefer the hardship of realizing citizenship in this city to the convenience of merely yearning for it," they said.

    Last month, a former Israeli cabinet minister, Yossi Sarid, responded to Wiesel with an open letter in which he said the author had been "deceived" into believing that all the city's residents live freely and equally. He took Wiesel to task for claiming that Arabs were free to build anywhere in Jerusalem. The city's Arab residents face routine obstacles to obtaining planning permission to build in the east and almost never receive authorisation for the west. "Not only may an Arab not build 'anywhere', but he may thank his God if he is not evicted from his home and thrown out on to the street with his family and property," Sarid wrote.

    He pointed to Arabs forcibly removed to make way for Jews.

    "Those same zealous Jews insist on inserting themselves like so many bones in the throats of Arab neighbourhoods, purifying and Judaizing them with the help of rich American benefactors, several of whom you may know personally," Sarid wrote. "Barack Obama appears well aware of his obligations to try to resolve the world's ills, particularly ours here. Why then undercut him and tie his hands?"


    Extract from open letter to Obama from Elie Wiesel

    "For me, the Jew that I am, Jerusalem is above politics. It is mentioned more than six hundred times in Scripture – and not a single time in the Koran. Its presence in Jewish history is overwhelming.

    "Today, for the first time in history, Jews, Christians and Muslims all may freely worship at their shrines. And, contrary to certain media reports, Jews, Christians and Muslims ARE allowed to build their homes anywhere in the city. The anguish over Jerusalem is not about real estate but about memory."



    Extract from open letter from 100 Jewish Jerusalemites to Wiesel

    "Your letter troubles us, not simply because it is replete with factual errors and false representations, but because it upholds an attachment to some other-worldly city which purports to supersede the interests of those who live in the this-worldly one.

    "We invite you to our city to view with your own eyes the catastrophic effects of the frenzy of construction. You will witness that, contrary to some media reports, Arabs are not allowed to build their homes anywhere in Jerusalem. You will see the gross inequality in allocation of municipal resources and services between east and west."

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    Great article, mate...

    I stopped posting pics here because I felt people may get bored with seeing the same situation on a daily basis. No pics doesn't mean there is no suffering.

    Anyway, I just wanted to put this pic which was taken today in Jerusalem for a Palestinian woman who was thrown away from her house by settlers who took that house afew days ago. This is how they received her when she wanted to see her house where she spent her life at:

     

    icemaη

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    Great article, mate...

    I stopped posting pics here because I felt people may get bored with seeing the same situation on a daily basis. No pics doesn't mean there is no suffering.

    Anyway, I just wanted to put this pic which was taken today in Jerusalem for a Palestinian woman who was thrown away from her house by settlers who took that house afew days ago. This is how they received her when she wanted to see her house where she spent her life at:

    Thats disgusting. Keep posting pics Reb...
     
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    In the 62th anniversary of Palestinian biggest immigration, here is a video including pics for Palestine before 1948.

     
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    I will try to post the most important pics during the last three days. Many activities took place for the 62th anniversary for Nakba (Palestinian deportation on 1948)

    In Gaza city, for prisoners...





















     
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    Two human rights activists from the Arabs living inside Israel were caught and accused of being Hezbollah spies. These are demonstrations to free them:



















     

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