Israeli-Palestinian conflict (46 Viewers)

[IrishZebra]

my current location is a monarchy, is running pretty well, at least from the governance point of view

Can you stand outside the palace with a sign saying down with the king, the king is not above us?

 

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[Martin]

my current location is a monarchy, is running pretty well, at least from the governance point of view

torture stuff sucks tho

 

[Ahmed]

Can you stand outside the palace with a sign saying down with the king, the king is not above us?

not really

 

[Ahmed]

torture stuff sucks tho

it sucks a lot, but I'm seeing it happen in the Liberal Democracies as well.

 

[IrishZebra]

not really

That makes me :frown:



And not in a Rich American Housewife looking at African Orphans way, a real :frown:

 

[Martin]

it sucks a lot, but I'm seeing it happen in the Liberal Democracies as well.

and slave labor?

 

[Ahmed]

That makes me :frown:



And not in a Rich American Housewife looking at African Orphans way, a real :frown:

why you gotta hate on Angelina?

 

[IrishZebra]

Don't forget Freedom from Arbitrary Arrest and Seizure of property.

 

[IrishZebra]

why you gotta hate on Angelina?

Because I can.

 

[Ahmed]

and slave labor?

is being corrected now, but yes another big issue.

 

[Martin]

is being corrected now, but yes another big issue.

I'm not just pulling your chain in fact, I'm interested in the topic. Democracy is always held up as the ultimate solution, so it makes you wonder.

 

[Ahmed]

I'm not just pulling your chain in fact, I'm interested in the topic. Democracy is always held up as the ultimate solution, so it makes you wonder.

IMO the right leader is more important than the form of government in place...in my country at least, we have always struggled with that aspect of politics...every person who's been entrusted with the top job, democratic or otherwise, has been a disappointment, which has left me disillusioned with the idea of a democracy...

a good example is Mahathir Mohammed, long-serving premier of Malaysia.

 

[IrishZebra]

Rule by Demos is the best option. It's the systems that the Demos elects people to that need reform.

 

[The Curr]

I'm not just pulling your chain in fact, I'm interested in the topic. Democracy is always held up as the ultimate solution, so it makes you wonder.

What IZ mentioned on the last page > democracy.

 

[IrishZebra]

What IZ mentioned on the last page > democracy.

Rule by a logical,secular,educated,intelligent,compassionate elite?

 

[Martin]

IMO the right leader is more important than the form of government in place...in my country at least, we have always struggled with that aspect of politics...every person who's been entrusted with the top job, democratic or otherwise, has been a disappointment, which has left me disillusioned with the idea of a democracy...

a good example is Mahathir Mohammed, long-serving premier of Malaysia.

But it's not one person making all the decisions, not in a system where power is divided between institutions. So it's not about "the right leader", it's about the system. You can hope all you want for the perfect monarch who'll be the perfect leader, but chances are he won't ever show up.

 

[Fred]

he won't show up because too much power always corrupts.

 

[The Curr]

Rule by a logical,secular,educated,intelligent,compassionate elite?

That's the one.

 

[Martin]

he won't show up because too much power always corrupts.

You could say that about someone like Obama who was elected "by the people". He went from being "one of us" to being drunk with power. (Not that I'm saying this is what happened, but just for the sake of argument.) But you can't say that about a monarch who inherited power. His interests never lied with the people in the first place, so you can't say he became corrupted.

 

[ReBeL]

my current location is a monarchy, is running pretty well, at least from the governance point of view

Monarchy is rarely a good regime. Take it from one who lived under two monarchies.