Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (21 Viewers)

[mnementh]

Hopeless case...

Yes, we're killing ourselves t look like the victims all the time...

no, you didn't kill them in purpose, don't be daft. But the facts were revealed, you can't lie anymore. During the cross-fire between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian "Poilce" forces, the kid was shot from palestinian gunfire.... it was proven. It was a tragic mistake no doubt. And in the beach it was an aged shell/bomb for suicide attacks that was initiated accedtanly (proved that Israel wasn't shooting towards that area). The most annoying thing there is that you try to base claims over lying about facts... you do it all the time. If only you spoke the truth, we could really settle things down.

 

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[ReBeL]

lie ? there was no lie... but there was a difference between the british in UK at the time (like Balfour) who promised the Zionist party rights and the british inside israel who were corrupted, who hated jews, and who did everything in their power to break that promise... this is the truth.

The Zionist Party Rights??

How can the people who don't own the region to give it to other people who don't deserve it??

Just think in this sentence, my dear...

Drink some water, and kill a Palestinian kid, to have the enough power to rearrange your breath acceleration and reply...

 

[mnementh]

I wont even bother answering this because it aint in my eyes a credible source. Whatever I have supplied in teh past has come from credible sources and its very rare that you would see me quoting palestinian or lebanon sites.

that site simply has the sources listed. They're credible and they're all facts proving the bias against Israel.

 

[ReBeL]

no, you didn't kill them in purpose, don't be daft. But the facts were revealed, you can't lie anymore. During the cross-fire between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian "Poilce" forces, the kid was shot from palestinian gunfire.... it was proven. It was a tragic mistake no doubt. And in the beach it was an aged shell/bomb for suicide attacks that was initiated accedtanly (proved that Israel wasn't shooting towards that area). The most annoying thing there is that you try to base claims over lying about facts... you do it all the time. If only you spoke the truth, we could really settle things down.

Yes, we're so bad...

Damn usumpkin:

 

[PhRoZeN]

Drink some water, and kill a Palestinian kid, to have the enough power to rearrange your breath acceleration and reply...

 

[mnementh]

The Zionist Party Rights??

How can the people who don't own the region to give it to other people who don't deserve it??

Just think in this sentence, my dear...

what the **** are you talking about ? How do you think all the arab states got the countries ?????? What do you think Jordan (part of the balfour declaration btw), Syria, Saudi etc are ??? All these places were colonized by UK or France and were distributed. It's only natural the Jews should get their rightful state too. They deserve it more than anybody else.

Drink some water, and kill a Palestinian kid, to have the enough power to rearrange your breath acceleration and reply...

I bet this is the stuff you hear from BBC about what's going on...

 

[ReBeL]

that site simply has the sources listed. They're credible and they're all facts proving the bias against Israel.

And it has coincidently the same name of a former Israeli killer disguised as a prime minister...

 

[Slagathor]

And does the name "Arthur James Balfour" make an echo in your ears??

From the Balfour Declaration:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

The later establishment of the actual State of Israel as we know it today had little to do with the Balfour Delcaration. At that point, just after the second world war, when today's Israel was formed, the British administration was opposed to that particular concept and Israel was founded with firm American support instead.

 

[mnementh]

indeed. that seems to be familiar...

 

[Il Re]

no, you didn't kill them in purpose, don't be daft. But the facts were revealed, you can't lie anymore. During the cross-fire between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian "Poilce" forces, the kid was shot from palestinian gunfire.... it was proven. It was a tragic mistake no doubt.And in the beach it was an aged shell/bomb for suicide attacks that was initiated accedtanly (proved that Israel wasn't shooting towards that area . The most annoying thing there is that you try to base claims over lying about facts... you do it all the time. If only you spoke the truth, we could really settle things down.

comon mnementh, now thats just silly, accidently blow up a load of people, comon dont tell me you believe that?

 

[mnementh]

And it has coincidently the same name of a former Israeli killer disguised as a prime minister...

learn to read... the site is biased , it lists a series of sites. it's only a linking site.

 

[PhRoZeN]

that site simply has the sources listed. They're credible and they're all facts proving the bias against Israel.

Majority of them seem to be written by an author, there doesnt seem to be any biliography or rather no reference to a website or anything. I have come across only a few articles which are supposedly from other magazines such as washingtons post but how on earth will I know whether this really is credible. Washingtons post usually can be found online, they have an extenstive database of there previous posts, it would have just been nice if I was directed there instead rather than here. If I had enough time and was really determined to read your news I would search but im afraid your trying to convince me something here and your just passing me a paper with nothing on it.

 

[ReBeL]

what the **** are you talking about ? How do you think all the arab states got the countries ?????? What do you think Jordan (part of the balfour declaration btw), Syria, Saudi etc are ??? All these places were colonized by UK or France and were distributed. It's only natural the Jews should get their rightful state too. They deserve it more than anybody else.

Ok...

Let me try to follow you into this...

First, Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with this...

Secondly, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and Syria were the place where Arabs lived for thousands of years...

Why does Israel have the right to be in that place when all the jews in Palestine were less than 10% of the gross population??

Try to convince me because I'm starting to think that you have nothing to argue about...

 

[mnementh]

comon mnementh, now thats just silly, accidently blow up a load of people, comon dont tell me you believe that?

Il Re... let me explain what happened. Israel wasn't shooting towards the area and so it was unknown how this happened. Then the wounded came for Israeli hospitals (yes, Israel is so bad that it actually takes care of wounded palestinians all the time), and they tried to examine the shell pieces from the injured to see what kind of ammo is that. It wasn't conclusive. What happened for sure is that something blew up on the beach. This happens actually inside israel too in areas bombarded by wars... children pick up old bombs that never ignited... it's shells that didn't explode for example. It might have been some israeli ammo from a long time ago (but wasn't recognised from the hospital) or something palestinians prepared and dumped. Capisce?

btw, some suicide bombers really have killed themselves accidentaly in their appartments... it's called "working accidents", but that's not the case here.

 

[PhRoZeN]

I wont bother with balfour and prior to that its something ive already been through and to a certain extent I may just have to copy and paste from another thread but I dont feel right in doing so and I believe it will only serve punishment for those who have already read it, to read it again. For more information see the pathetic democracy thread.

 

[Il Re]

Il Re... let me explain what happened. Israel wasn't shooting towards the area and so it was unknown how this happened. Then the wounded came for Israeli hospitals (yes, Israel is so bad that it actually takes care of wounded palestinians all the time), and they tried to examine the shell pieces from the injured to see what kind of ammo is that. It wasn't conclusive. What happened for sure is that something blew up on the beach. This happens actually inside israel too in areas bombarded by wars... it's shells that didn't explode for example. It might have been some israeli ammo from a long time ago (but wasn't recognised from the hospital) or something palestinians prepared and dumped. Capisce?

btw, some suicide bombers really have killed themselves accidentaly in their appartments... it's called "working accidents", but that's not the case here.

i see

 

[mnementh]

PhRoZeN, the thing is after years of watching these channels interviewing palestinians and arabs and "jews who hate jews" and talking about the oppression and poor palestinians and never even showing once an israeli mother crying over her son's grave, or stories about entire israeli familes wiped out in pizzerias, then you're really not gonna convince me otherwise.

 

[PhRoZeN]

PhRoZeN, the thing is after years of watching these channels interviewing palestinians and arabs and "jews who hate jews" and talking about the oppression and poor palestinians and never even showing once an israeli mother crying over her son's grave, or stories about entire israeli familes wiped out in pizzerias, then you're really not gonna convince me otherwise.

I see you just dont want to be convinced, sticking to your terrorist idelogy to destroy whatever may coem between israel and its so called country. The jews who hate jews was never mentioned on tv channels and as I mentioned earliar on where both me and il Re can vouch we certainly didnt so no bias against israeli but rather the opposite. If there were half a dozen others who have a brain would agree with me too, but majority people dont give a crap anymore anyway afterall its not there country. To be honest I never did want to convince you I know you wasnt gonna change your ideology from someone who apparently is "anti semitic" like billions of other people in the world. I just wanted to point out facts to those who are neutral to see it with there own eyes. Im afraid if they cant see what I have been typing up from factual sources for the past few months since the israeli - palestinian threads started then really I cant do nothing more than laugh at there self pity state of how they are getting indoctrinated with crap and they dont even know it.. pity.. infact I even pity you.

 

[ReBeL]

From the Balfour Declaration:



The later establishment of the actual State of Israel as we know it today had little to do with the Balfour Delcaration. At that point, just after the second world war, when today's Israel was formed, the British administration was opposed to that particular concept and Israel was founded with firm American support instead.

Erik, I respect your smartness so much, so I'll reply abit thoroughly...

The Balfour Declaration was in 1917...

The Haganah, Stern, and Argon Zionist terrorist organizations kept making massacres with the help of British troops since 1917 until 1947, and more than half of Palestinians fled over the neighbour countries just because they were so scared from the alliance between Israelis and British troops...

USA might helped them in 1948, but they didn't make the high logistics sacrifices as provided by British...

British army trained the jewish gangs and made the core of the Israeli army later...

Britain also withdrew from Palestine early as an implementation of an agreement with Israeli terrorist gangs and gave them all the main sites it kept until that moment...

USA was nothing before 1945...Its romle started after the 1948 Nakba...

Believe me, if I'm Israeli (Thanks God I'm not), I'll worship Britain for the rest of my life, because it made me a state out of nothing when I desereved nothing and never dreamt of having such place to make stupid acts against the original people......

 

[mnementh]

Ok...

Let me try to follow you into this...

First, Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with this...

Secondly, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and Syria were the place where Arabs lived for thousands of years...

Why does Israel have the right to be in that place when all the jews in Palestine were less than 10% of the gross population??

Try to convince me because I'm starting to think that you have nothing to argue about...

Saudi (named by the family...), Jordan and Iraq were all gifts given by the British to the certain princes families, for example the Hashemite. It had nothing to do with people, but with gifts awarded by the british to Faisel and the other families. Essentially dictatorships with no regard as whether people in that area formed a pepole or not... anyway, arabs lived in those areas, but very few actually lived in palestina/eretz Israel. Jews have also always lived in Israel and established a long and strong connection with this land. Jews always claimed Israel as their own, while arabs never did. Those arabs living in palestina didn't see that unit as a country. Anyway, the decision in the end by the U.N was to part the whole east side of the jewish national home (balfour declartion) and make it "Jordan" and the left side to divide between more arabs there and the jews... then 7 Arab countries attacked Israel while the "palestinians" there fled to wait for those countries to eliminate Israel....