Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (23 Viewers)

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Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
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mnementh said:
you didn't explain anything and you showed nothing. You showed some article mentioning an irrelevant documentary about FOX news which says that they have pre determined opinions about the iraq war (no DAH !) and Enron FFS. It has nothing to do with the fact that BBC and other british news HATE Israel and attack it constantly. And neturei carta are fanatics who believe it's unlawful to have a country before the messiah arrives. It has nothing to do with anything.
how exactly do they do that? both me and phrozen are from the uk, surely we are in a better position to make judgements?
 

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mnementh

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Jun 5, 2005
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Il Re said:
how exactly do they do that? both me and phrozen are from the uk, surely we are in a better position to make judgements?
read the links provided for start. if you don't know, BBC (maybe you get a local version, I get the world version, maybe there are diffrerences indeed) and Sky News are broadcasted in Israeli cables.
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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mnementh said:
you didn't explain anything and you showed nothing. You showed some article mentioning an irrelevant documentary about FOX news which says that they have pre determined opinions about the iraq war (no DAH !) and Enron FFS. It has nothing to do with the fact that BBC and other british news HATE Israel and attack it constantly. And neturei carta are fanatics who believe it's unlawful to have a country before the messiah arrives. It has nothing to do with anything.
If there was a way to actually show you teh documentary then yes I would. I would proberly clamp you down put you in a chair and watch it, but obviously I cant which is why I showed you an article, the source isnt the article but the documentary itself. The article just briefly explains what teh doumentary is about. Why so much so of a denial, thats just proove regarding fox news is biased and that it was rupert murdoch who changed how the news was prepared and aired around. Sky news is also owned by rupert murdoch, which exemplifies my point. Now is this really hard to understand? :rolleyes: Yes I aints uprised your calling them fanatics and messiah e.t.c, they obviously have a different religious believe to you as do the other 60 odd sects or more. There will always be a religious difference but what must hurt most is the fact they they are speaking the truth? :eyebrows:
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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mnementh said:
british news is anti semitic just like most european news, it's pretty obvious. And no, in fact, Britian was the major obstacle for the creation of israel.
:lol2: I can't believe there is somebody who can come with such sentences...
 

mnementh

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ReBeL said:
:lol2: I can't believe there is somebody who can come with such sentences...
ehh..... someone needs a history lesson... to learn how Britian tried with the White Book to ban Jews from entering Israel or buying land... and how Jewish militas sent them away etc.
 

mnementh

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PhRoZeN said:
If there was a way to actually show you teh documentary then yes I would.
yeah it sounds interesting... I already knew FOX news were pro the Iraq war... and I really don't know what their opinion of Enron is... but again, it has nothing to do with us. And yes..... neutrei carta speaking of the great sin of establishing a coutnry before the Messiah King arrives from heaven on a white donkey are obviously speaking the truth. :agree:
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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mnementh said:
PhRoZeN, I've been following BBC for years, and their one sided way of the conflict, highlighting palestinian's pain and ignoring the agony of israelis is very clear for me. I don't need to watch anything to think otherwise, there are actually graet satires composed by israelies explaining this. It's heinous. btw, I don't see how british news are connected to FOX NEWS which is indeed pro-american policies.
Well, your government makes their attempts, to make Israel look like the innocent party, just impossible...

How can they show Muhammad Al-Durra killed between his father's hands and say "Poor Israel"??

How can they bring Huda Ghalieh to TV after her whole family was killed on the Gaza beach, and say "Palestinians are so cruel!!"

As Britain helped making an alien Israeli state in the Middle East, they won't hesitate ever to help it by all the possible ways...
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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mnementh said:
you question this fact ? When will you start having arguments and not lies to base your opinions...
When my state is built based on a big lie by a British minister, then of course, I'll see everything honest as a lie and everything corrupt as the most honest thing...
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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This article is nothing more but accusations. Now how it didnt fit into agenda is simple and I admire that simply because the story itself is a daily matter, theres always some kid or another stopped and you know more than myself. The news about kids being stopped is nothing new either, infact theres a movie about this which came out on cinema that I cant remember where a kid had planned to bomb palestine but then eventually got into tw minds and eventually got caught. So im afraid theres plenty of news out already about this. The fact that israel went out and killed some militants should no doubt be a bigger highlight because this brings in the five letter words "death" and also shows the combatting of militants. There are two ways that that killing militants can be views. A) it would be regarded as a 'victory' especially when they are named as terrorists, which is something that is often said infact I would say more than often. When the militants are labelled as terrorists a person would obviously be delighted to see them dead. B) Prior to such news we see more than videos of this kid holding a quran and swearing vengence e.t.c.. so really its not old news what so ever and many people are like yes been there done that. They want to see different news and an attack on militants is usually a different news which is welcomed by majority rather than minority.

Also this isnt teh first time that israel has asked more from teh press, its a great way to attract sympathy just like they use the two key words "anti semtism" against anything. If anything they dont like they usually are the first to complain. The news agencies aint allowed to do there work. At the end of teh article you see the key word pressure revealed. Although the israeli minister denied that you can easily see how it is affecting the news agencies. Sky news must have had a godo bollocking but its interesting to note that BBC was the only news coporation to be complained about.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Erik-with-a-k said:
It's true, former British foreign minister Anthony Eden is (in-)famous for his blunder in opposing the creation of a Jewish state.
And does the name "Arthur James Balfour" make an echo in your ears??
 

mnementh

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Jun 5, 2005
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ReBeL said:
When my state is built based on a big lie by a British minister, then of course, I'll see everything honest as a lie and everything corrupt as the most honest thing...
lie ? there was no lie... but there was a difference between the british in UK at the time (like Balfour) who promised the Zionist party rights and the british inside israel who were corrupted, who hated jews, and who did everything in their power to break that promise... this is the truth.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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mnementh said:
it's so funny you bring two examples where palestinians were killed from palestinians and blame israel for it . :disagree: It's disgusting to lie like this.
Hopeless case...

Yes, we're killing ourselves t look like the victims all the time...

We also said that millions of our CLAIMED ancestors were killed by Hitler...

My dear, wake up...

You're talking to adult guys and not some naive people in the American White House...
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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mnementh said:
And yes..... neutrei carta speaking of the great sin of establishing a coutnry before the Messiah King arrives from heaven on a white donkey are obviously speaking the truth. :agree:
I never said they are speaking the truth regarding messiah et.c, but I will respect there religious beliefs and in turn that doesnt by any methods affect my judgement regarding what they believe politically. Religion and Politics are two different things. They may believe in donkeys or whatever religiously but taht doesnt mean they are a bunch of fools. The same may be said about people prostate to god, worship statues, sing songs in church or whatever. Whatever they said politically should be acknowledged and respected and lets not forget they are jews which inherently israel themselves are.
 

cyril

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Jul 6, 2006
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mnementh said:
yeah it sounds interesting... I already knew FOX news were pro the Iraq war... and I really don't know what their opinion of Enron is... but again, it has nothing to do with us. And yes..... neutrei carta speaking of the great sin of establishing a coutnry before the Messiah King arrives from heaven on a white donkey are obviously speaking the truth. :agree:

The messiah as you like to call him, was born year 0 ac, and then was brutally crucified by romans following jews protests against him...

but were not going to argue about that are we?...

Religions aside, what israel is foing right now is only mounting more and more hatred which will one day be unleashed severly by every rational human beeing.

HATRED ON BOTH SIDES THIS HAS TO END...
 
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